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15 Oct 2019 23:41:50
OKC: G Hayward+ Langford

Boston: Gallinari+Bamba+Augustin

Orl:Schroder+1rnd pick Denver (top 20 protected)+ 1rnd pick Boston(top 20 protected)

15 Oct 2019 23:29:01
Hornets get Schroeder, Nader, Burton
***A backup for Rozier that could also provide a spark. I think Schroeder could also use a change of scenery with so many ball handlers in okc.

Grizz get MKG, Monk, 2020 Denver 1st
***They get another pick and a young asset. If MKG can play, great. If he stinks, cool. $13M expiring.

Thunder get Anderson, Crowder
***I'd like to see OKC see how far they could go in the West. Most of the top teams have reason to underachieve (ex Warriors have Klay hurt, KD gone, Russel to incorporate AND Rockets have to figure out how feed both Harden and Russ and no picks to trade to fill out the bench).

CP3, Graham, FA (Felton?)
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Crowder, Anderson, Roberson
Gallo, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

(Realistically the backup pg is SGA and graham the third)

15 Oct 2019 12:49:55
Pacers get Gallinari, Nader, Burton, Denver 2020 first
***Sabonis and Gallo could be a really nice tandem down low. Additionally, Gallo provides spacing needed for Oladipo as he comes back from injury. Playoff Push will be real as I see the Pacers as a team that could go deep in the East.

Thunder get Warren, McDermott, Sabonis
***Bring Sabonis back! He fits the timeline and team needs. Also, they get much needed wing help. And they don't really need the Denver pick.

15 Oct 2019 13:11:46
Bring Oladipo back too, stop living in the past. Move on.

15 Oct 2019 13:17:07
Why would it matter if sabonis and gallo would work?

15 Oct 2019 15:50:28
"Sabonis and Gallo would work great together! " as you trade one for the other.

15 Oct 2019 16:31:58
I meant turner and Gallo. Jeez.

11 Oct 2019 14:33:58
Boston gets Adams, Schroeder, Denver 2020 first, Miami 2021 first

Spurs get Paul and Brown

Okc gets Hayward, Derozan, Mills

11 Oct 2019 15:29:38
Why should the Spurs do that? Paul has negative value and Brown almost none because he wants a max.
OKC might not do it because Hayward has the same value than Paul (maybe even less) . But DeRozan and Mills won't make them better than Adams, Paul and Schröder. So why giving up Picks? Boston does this in a heartbeat.

11 Oct 2019 16:45:31
I doubt Paul + Brown gets you Derozen. Let alone Derozen + Mills.

12 Oct 2019 02:24:15
Fredman, Mills may be a negative asset. He’s a mediocre back up pg making 10 million and signed for 3 more years.

12 Oct 2019 13:48:01
If you say so. He looked pretty good during the World Championship and can shoot. Every team values shooting. Much rather have Mills than Schroeder.

11 Oct 2019 13:59:41
Celtics - Thunder

Celtics gets:
2020 1st (the worst of Thunder, Nuggets and Celtics)
2020 2nd rd pick (Thunder)
2021 2nd rd pick (Thunder)

Thunder gets:
2020 1st (Grizzlies via Celtics)
2020 1st (the two most favorable of Thunder, Nuggets and Celtics)

11 Oct 2019 15:33:11
Hayward is trash until he proves everyone wrong. You need at least 2 1st rounders to unload him. Adams has some value so you need more than Williams here. Schröder has close to no value. He's a little overpaid, but still is one of the best backup PGs.

So maybe Hayward, Williams and 3 1st rounders (or 2 1st rounders and 2nd rounders) for Adams and Schröder.

11 Oct 2019 22:09:05
I kind of like this deal. I agree that Hayward is negative value, but since OKC is not a free agent destination, I don’t mind the gamble if the compensation is right. Where is Adams going to take OKC, anyway? Schröeder is decidedly a negative contract.

Here, OKC gets the better of the BOS and DEN picks, which is not much, but nice to move up. The two Thunder seconds have a little value in the 35-40 range, but they are still just second rounders, and could be omitted.

The jewel of this trade is the MEM pick, which is Top 6 protected this year, and fully unprotected in 2021. OKC has to love that one.

For BOS, I can see how this trade does some good, and I’m not against them using it. Exchanging Hayward for Adams certainly removes risk, as they still try to contend, and his screens would help. But is Steven Adams the player you use up the MEM pick on?

11 Oct 2019 23:43:41
To your question Shrink, my answer is a strong no. That pick is for a star. Anything else is a mistake. Boston just doesn’t get any better with this trade.

It’s just like the plethora of Blazer trades involving expiring deals and picks. If it’s not for a star, what’s the point? Both Boston and Portland are in very similar situations. They can’t swap around role players. They’re both a star from true contention. Don’t waste assets.

12 Oct 2019 04:20:49
That's stupid for OKC.
They just get the Grizzlies Pick and! maybe! a upgrade of a few spots because they can choose between the Celtics pick or the Nuggets pick (which has protection! ) while getting a 66 million contract and sending out Adams and 2 2nd rounders.

And who says the Memphis Pick is for sure in the top 10? I can remember everyone saying the same about the Kings pick from Boston the last 3 years.

Why not waiting until next offseason or the trade deadline. There are a lot of contenders looking for upgrades at Center (Lakers, Clippers, Nets, . ) . And why not looking for cap flexibility instead of taking on Hayward? Memphis did well with that.

12 Oct 2019 11:58:23
The Celtics are not trading Hayward, especially if they think he has negative trade value. They will let it ride with him. He has only this year and next. After this season he will have an expiring contract and will have more value than a player like Wall who really won't have played for 2 seasons.

09 Oct 2019 17:30:11
Denver x Oklahoma

Beasley and will for dennis.

09 Oct 2019 18:21:15
So a team that has a good starting pg and solid back up trades two good players for 1 mediocre back up pg?

09 Oct 2019 18:35:58
I'd take both Denver players over Schroeder by quite a bit.

09 Oct 2019 14:14:39
This won't happen, but I thought it was interesting.

Miami gets Paul, Looney, Ferguson, Denver 2020 first
***They get a young guy, a pick, and a serviceable big attached to Paul. They keep Bam, Herro, Winslow. I think that's good enough.

Warriors get Dragic, Olynyk, 2021 Miami first via okc
***I don't think Russel fits and I don't think he stays. Getting a guy like Olynyk who can start at the 5 and shoot is big. Dragic can run the bench. The first is gravy. Could end up being a great pick.

Thunder get Russel and Waiters
***I think Waiters is a big gamble. He could be a ball hog on a bloated deal. Or he could be a sixth man of the year candidate. Russel with SGA could be a good pairing tho. I'd love to see Okc chase a playoff berth.

Russel, Schroeder
SGA, Waiters, Burton
Roberson, Diallo, Nader
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

09 Oct 2019 15:32:03
OKC is getting way too much. If they had a standard expiring contract it would make sense, but not with Paul's deal.

Russell might not be a great fit with GS, but this is a massive downgrade in overall talent. And talent wins.

09 Oct 2019 11:31:03
Nuggets: Covington

Wolves: Barton, Porter Jr

08 Oct 2019 14:41:14
Cavs and nuggets

Cavs get first round pick and bol bol

Nuggets get Thompson and two second round picks

08 Oct 2019 15:13:49
Salary cap (among other issues) .

03 Oct 2019 14:32:24
Detroit: G Hayward+ 1rnd pick Denver

Boston: M Turner+ TJ Warren

Indy: B Griffin+ 1rnd pick Memphis

Drummond is a double double beast, but he need shooters arround him, Hayward would be a good scoring option in that team.
C: Drummond
PG:D Rose

C:M turner/ Kanter

PF:B Griffin/Leaf
SF:McDermott/J Holiday/Lamb
PF:Brogdon/A Holiday

03 Oct 2019 14:49:35
The only first not owned by Denver is owned by OKC so I do not understand why there is a Denver first involved in this trade.

03 Oct 2019 21:37:57
* milwaukee pick.

28 Sep 2019 15:25:17
Orlando gets Paul, Bridges, Baynes, 2021 clips pick
***Fultz can either come off the bench while still getting starter mins (a la Harden in okc) or he can slide to the 2. Orlando is definitely a playoff team but need someone with vet experience to lead the way. They alleviate the logjam down low as well. Adding the pick is gravy.

Phoenix gets Gordon, Fournier, Nader, 2020 Denver 1st, 2021 Miami 1st
***Gordon and Ayton should be fun. I don't see Booker wanting to stay in Phoenix long term (despite his extension). This also brings in a good shooter who can do some of the same things as Booker in Fournier. Those two firsts help too.

Okc gets Booker and Augustin
***Solidifies the backcourt for the next 5-10 years. They could be a surprise team moving forward with good depth. Sign a vet with their open roster spot or keep it open closer to playoff push.

SGA, Schroeder, Augustin
Booker, Diallo, Burton
Roberson, Ferguson, (vet signing)
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

28 Sep 2019 17:57:47
Not a big deal but the Clippers pick will be a 2022 pick. Clippers own their 2021 pick.

29 Sep 2019 01:43:19
You don't get booker for that.

29 Sep 2019 16:15:33
Extremely bad for Orlando.

26 Sep 2019 21:29:42
Heat / Timberwolves / Thunder

Miami Gets

Chris Paul
T. Ferguson
D. Bazley
M. Muscala (Expiring)
2021 MIAMI 1st
2021 OKC 2nd
2023 MIAMI 1st
2024 OKC 2nd
2026 OKC 2nd

Minnesota Gets

Gallinari (Expiring)
Roberson (Expiring)
33 Million Plus (Expiring)
2020 Nuggets 1st

Oklahoma City Gets

Wiggins from Timberwolves
Dragic from Heat
Johnson from Heat
Winslow from Heat
Waiters from Heat

26 Sep 2019 23:24:56
Haha why should OKC give up 3 1st Rounders to get worse players? Wiggins contract is worse than CP3 so it isn't even a salary dump.
That's just horrible.

27 Sep 2019 02:40:37
So OKC trades away Grant, Westbrook and George and only walk away with 3 firsts and some draft swaps that probably won't happen. LOL!

27 Sep 2019 20:15:07
That trade is by far the craziest I’ve seen yet no way in hell would okc give up all them picks

27 Sep 2019 21:55:20
Miami wants Paul. No way okc makes Miami better when they have two of Miami's first round picks. Okc wants Miami to be in the lottery.

25 Sep 2019 17:30:17
Mavs get Dragic, Schroeder, Ferguson, Nader
***Love a three headed monster of Dragic, Doncic, Porzingis. Adding Schroder in a similar role to what he plays in okc would help the bench. Ferguson is a starting quality young asset. Nader is filler but all hustle.

Heat get Paul, Jackson, Brunson, 2020 Denver 1st via okc
***They want young players and pick(s) attached to Paul and this does that (albeit on the low end of both). Brunson could be a nice backup to Paul while Jackson provides good depth on the wings. This is all about getting Paul and a pick at the end of the day. I like the fit in Miami.

Okc gets Hardaway, Winslow, Lee, Waiters
***This gives okc depth on the wings and shorter/more workable contracts. This could be a sneaky playoff team in the West.

Shai, Winslow
Hardaway, Waiters, Diallo
Lee, Dre, Burton
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

24 Sep 2019 01:06:26
Rumor has it that Miami might still be interested in a Chris Paul deal. Here's my dream one (emphasis on dream as I know this won't happen most likely).

Miami gets Paul and their two first back
***They want Paul and their picks back? Can do. For the right price. They get what they want.

Orlando gets Dragic, Denver first
***I don't see Gordon fitting Orlando. I get that they see him as their best player, and they are a playoff team. But I think this gets the most of their investment in Fultz and gets them better roster balance.

Thunder get Gordon, Winslow, Herro
***The picks they got from all their deals was great. But this gets them under the cap again, sheds Paul, and gives them a potential playoff team with a great future setup still.

Shai, Schroeder
Winslow, Herro, Diallo
Gordon, Roberson, Ferguson
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

Tons of of options. Lots of potential. Good shooting. Under the cap. Still have plenty of picks.

24 Sep 2019 01:50:23
Paul + 2 1sts can maybe get you Winslow + Bad contracts (shorter than Paul's) . OKC is getting Gordon and Herro basically for free here.

24 Sep 2019 05:53:22
You are delusional if you think Miami will tale Paul for 2 of their young guys. Much rather have depth than get an old horrible contract guy. Ok if you will agree, replace Winslow and Herro with Johnson and Waiters and Miami will listen.

24 Sep 2019 06:18:11
Cant see Miami trading Dragic and Winslow because winslow is the team's secondary ballhandler/ playmaker. Who becomes Paul's backup after the trade?

24 Sep 2019 21:36:00
I think paul goes to Miami but it’s gunna involve throwing in Herro but okc will have to probably give up a pick or 2.

23 Sep 2019 08:34:13

Just for fun...

Sacramento receives: Millsap, Barton, Beasley, Morris

Denver receives: Barnes, Joseph, Bogdanovic, Bjelica

SAC depth:
Fox / Morris / Ferrell
Hield / Beasley / James / Guy (2W)
Barton / Ariza / FA
Bagley / Millsap / Gabriel (2W)
Dedmon / Giles / Holmes / Swanigan

DEN Depth:
Murray / Joseph / Dozier
Harris / Bogdanovic
Barnes / Craig / Porter / Cancar
Grant / Bjelica / Hernangomez / JV
Jokic / Plumlee / Bol(2W) /Cook(2W)

Sacramento makes a long-term play that gives them younger players who fit their style and clears cap (Millsap expiring) for next off-season. Fox / Morris and Hield / Beasley would make for a consistent, overwhelming backcourt with the pace that the Kings play at. They would have to be sure that Morris and Beasley's stats from last season were not a fluke, though.

Denver unites the Serbian National Team members! Barnes / Grant at the SF / PF spots are a better, more modern fit going forward than Barton / Millsap. They can switch more often on defense with a more versatile starting lineup, and can go offense/defense based on matchups at every position (now that they have Joseph at PG).

23 Sep 2019 11:58:06
I don't think the Nuggets would do this.

23 Sep 2019 13:27:57
Nuggets pass. Millsap is the anchor to their defense.

22 Sep 2019 13:53:02
OKC: Covington+KAT+ Booker

Phoe: Gallinari+ Ferguson+1rnd pick Denver+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 1rnd pick Miami 2023+ 1rnd pick clippers 2026

Minny:CP3+ 1rnd pick Hou 2020+1rnd pick 2022 Clipper+1rnd pick Hou 2024+1rnd pick Hou 2026


Phoenix is not going to make the playoffs and Booker is going to be unhappy, so Phoenix starts rebuilding around Ayton.

Minny gambles that CP3 can upgrades Wiggins value and they can start over with all those draft picks.

22 Sep 2019 14:33:23
Houston still owns its 2020 pick, so not sure how its included.

Minny gets robbed as RoCo and KAT are worth those picks, where are the picks for Paul's horrible contract.

22 Sep 2019 20:29:04
Considering how late those 4 firsts are, I don’t think they alone get KAT. Let alone Covington. And add in taking Paul. Seems way off.

23 Sep 2019 00:40:34
To be fair, kind of hard to predict where 2026 picks will be.

23 Sep 2019 02:02:58
Of every team in the entire NBA, Houston is one of the last I’d expect to ever tank. It’s just not their way. They mortgage their future to stay competitive on a consistent basis. I’d expect Houston’s picks to be late lottery at the very best.

23 Sep 2019 07:22:35
Also Miami is a team that never tanks, but still there's a big chance those 2024 and 2026 Houston picks falls in the lottery.

Westbrook will be 36 in 24 and 38 in 26
J Harden will be 35 in 24 and 37 in 26
And the Harden-Westbrook experiment could fail.

23 Sep 2019 11:18:45
For the MIN-OKC half of the trade, OKC got about this package for trading Westbrook.


23 Sep 2019 13:34:42
Plus Gaspo left out the injury bug that often hits older players.

23 Sep 2019 16:09:56
Considering overall trade value, KAT>Westbrook. And I don't think it's very close.

23 Sep 2019 18:34:05
The picks could fall into the lottery, sure. But if I’m putting value on those picks, it’s reduced due to history of how teams are run.

I feel like bringing up Miami is making my point. There was a Miami pick floating around (Maybe it still is? ) that people valued really high. I didn’t think so because Pat Riley won’t full on tank. Look at that team now, they’re going to be a playoff team most likely.

21 Sep 2019 12:26:28
Cavs and nuggets

Cavs get bol bol and a first round pick

Nuggets get Clarkson and two second round picks

21 Sep 2019 16:12:51
Another salary inbalance that voids the trade.

21 Sep 2019 21:31:07
Try Bol Bol and a second rounder for Dylan Winder.

22 Sep 2019 03:47:32
Why would the Cavs give up Windler for a 2nd and a 2 way player? They were willing to give up 4 2nds for Porter and they took him after Windler. That was before Windler looked good in summer league under horrible conditions for a shooter (no one who could create on ball) . He showed range, the ability to come around screens, rebounding, hustle, impressive passing, he looked like one of the better athletes, and he defended well.

22 Sep 2019 14:37:53
Its was more about the point of matching salaries.

20 Sep 2019 14:54:02
Hornets get Schroder, Nader, 2020 Denver 1st via okc
***They need a contingency plan if Rozier doesn't pan out and a good backup in the meantime. Schroeder can be a sixth man of the year candidate, off the ball, or a nice stopgap. The first helps too.

Spurs get Gallinari, Roberson
***I don't believe that Derozan has worked. And I believe that to make Aldridge most effective, put him at the 5 and give him space. This can help all the way around. Gallinari gives crazy good spacing for Aldridge. He also feels like a spurs guy. Selfishly I'd love to see what pop could make of Dre.

Thunder get Derozan, Bellineli, Williams, Graham
***I think Derozan could be a great fit in okc. He can be relieved of pressure and feel wanted here. Bellineli gives them a good shooter at the 2. Williams can space at the 4. Graham could be the third pg. Also trims salary. They burn a first but it's their worst one.

Paul, SGA, Graham
Bellineli, Diallo, Burton
Derozan, Ferguson
Williams, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

20 Sep 2019 15:13:33
Spurs sre going want more than 2 expiring deals for Derozen. Definately want a first round pick + players.

Plus, they would rather keep bellineli than take roberson.

18 Sep 2019 09:20:27
Denver: B Beal

Detroit: G Harris

Was: Barton+ R Jackson+Bol Bol+ 2 future first round picks Denver (propably 2022 and 2024)+ 1rnd pick Detroit 2020+ nd pick Detroit 2021

C: Jokic/Plumlee
PF: Millsap/ Porter

17 Sep 2019 14:28:42
Thunder / Suns Trade

Phoenix Gets

Gallinari (expiring)
2020 1st Round Pick (Thunder)
2020 1st Round Pick (Nuggets)
2021 2nd Round Pick (Thunder)
2022 1st Round Pick (Thunder)
2024 1st Round Pick (Thunder)
2025 2nd Round Pick (Thunder)
2026 1st Round Pick (Thunder)

Oklahoma City Gets

Devin Booker
T. Johnson (expiring)

17 Sep 2019 14:40:31
If OKC was cool woth offering all this, I would jump on it if I was Phoenix. Especially since the OKC picks are unprotected and they are likely to still be a lottery team after this deal. Paul/ Booker/ Adams is not that impressive and SGA goes to the bench?

17 Sep 2019 15:27:03
Is this for Booker or Giannis?

17 Sep 2019 18:06:52
Xxx, real question is this a okc fan or suns fan posing okc fan.

18 Sep 2019 00:31:49
All Thunder Picks are Protected from the Lottery and the 2026 1st Round Pick 2026 is taken out of consideration.

18 Sep 2019 01:01:15
No way in hell would okc give up that many picks nor players for Devin booker he is worth 3-4 draft picks

18 Sep 2019 11:15:51
Cant add protections and dtill stagger draft pickd. Picks HSVE to convey.

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