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14 Jul 2019 16:35:17
Denver: B Simmons

Philly: Murray+Beasly+Bol Bol+ 1rnd pick Denver 2022


Denver:

C: Jokic/Plumlee
PF:Porter/Millsap
SF:J grant/Craig
SG:Harris/Barton
PG:simmons/Morris


Philly
C:Embiid/Bol Bol
PF:Harris/horford
SF:Richardson/ennis
SG:Smith/Beasly
PG:Murray/Neto

14 Jul 2019 16:47:37
Murray over simmons.

14 Jul 2019 17:33:38
Interesting, but Simmons and Jokic together seems like diminishing returns.

14 Jul 2019 17:51:44
I’d take Murray over Simmons straight up.

14 Jul 2019 19:59:55
So who does Denver's offense run through? Jokic or Simmons? Keep Murray.

11 Jul 2019 20:48:09
A different location for Westbrook

Nuggets - Westbrook Roberson and Patterson
Thunder - Millsap(exp) Harris MPJ Beasley and Hernangomez

Westbrook/Morris
Murray/Barton
Craig/Roberson
Grant/Patterson/Vanderbilt
Jokic/Plumlee/Bol Bol

SGA/Schredor
Harris/Beasley
Gallo/MPJ/Ferguson
Millsap/Hernangomez
Adams/Noel

11 Jul 2019 22:29:08
The Thunder are struggling to find teams that want Russ, why would Denver give up 2 starters, a guy with a ton of upside and a good rotation player for him?

08 Jul 2019 15:19:29
Nuggets send: Michael Porter Jr., Malik Beasley, Paul Millsap, and the Nugget’s 2020 and 2022 unprotected first round pick.

Raptors send: Pascal Siakam, and Kyle Lowry.

The Nuggets cash in on their young prospects with upside to address their biggest need, they get a 4 who can guard big wings and is extremely switchable on the perimeter. He also compliments Jokic really well as a lean springier guy who can help block shots. He’s young, cheap, and the type of player who may be the most valuable in the NBA. They also get Kyle Lowry as a guy who brings experience, and all the skills that let him thrive in an offball situation, defense, shooting and passing, plus he’s an expiring so if it doesn’t work out he’s gone and you don't have to worry about some age stuff. This create a pretty sexy small-ish line up of
1. Lowry
2. Jamal Murray
3. Gary Harris
4. Pascal Siakam
5. Jokic
That matches up a lot better with a modern team like the Clippers imo.

The Raptors do a true blow up following Kawai’s departure. Why you cash in on Pascal now is 2 fold:
1. Him not being a lead scoring threat means that he’s not really a guy go center a rebuild around but Pascal and the rest of the team probably are too good to get that scorer in the draft.
2. If this is a true long term rebuild, Siakam is already 25, which while it isn’t young, if this is a 4 year rebuild Siakam will substantially lose his value by the time the window comes back open. Instead you get the crazy high upside of two 20 years olds in MPJ (who needs to be on ball and probably needs a year of learning on ball and sucking) and Beasley who’s incredibly young and athletic enough where he could become more than a 3&D guy. The Raptors are going to suck w/ o Lowry, Pascal, and Kawai, and the Raps get an extra first next year which probably won’t be worth very much but they also get an unprotected pick in the vaunted double draft of 2022, which is an amazing asset. Moving forward there is a real chance the Raptors would be set on the wing at
2. Beasley
3. OG
4. Porter jr.

And the mission in the draft with their own picks and the Raptors picks is to find a young PG and C.

08 Jul 2019 16:21:46
Denver just traded their 2020 pick to OKC for J. Grant. Moves Gallinari into the starting 4 spot.

08 Jul 2019 16:37:36
@Fredman In my defense I posted this before that went public. I’ll count this as a win, clearly Denver agreed about the kind of guy they needed in the 4 spot since Grant and Pascal are the same “type” of player.

08 Jul 2019 17:44:29
Grant is not pascal of offense or playmaking.

08 Jul 2019 18:49:29
They got the same "type" for much less of a price paid. That in itself is a win.

09 Jul 2019 02:58:47
Can’t Grant play the 3? He is 6’9” and 220.if he can guard four positions then he can play the 3 with Milsap. am I missing something there?

09 Jul 2019 14:21:33
terrible trade for Raptors if they aren't willing to trade siakim for PG13 then won't trade him for this.

09 Jul 2019 23:36:36
@Shiller well yeah, hence the price difference but they are both weakside shot blockers who are mobile enough to hang outside.

06 Jul 2019 23:00:34
Denver/ OKC

Denver get Westbrook/ Adams/ Robertson

OKC get Milsap/ Harris/ Plumlee/ Porter/ 1st round pick2020/ 1st round pick 2022.

04 Jul 2019 10:22:40
Denver: J Harden

Hou: J Murray+Barton+ M Porter Jr+ Plumlee+ 1rnd pick Denver 2020 and 2022

07 Jul 2019 14:33:00
I don’t totally like harden but here is a counter.


Trade Harris, Beasley, Plumblee, and two firsts.

30 Jun 2019 11:18:34
Was: G Harris+ Porter+ Bol bol+ 1rnd pick Denver 2020 and 2022

Denver: Beal

30 Jun 2019 13:47:46
That’s to much.

30 Jun 2019 13:50:18
Wizards should hope on that deal.

30 Jun 2019 16:18:42
If I'm Denver, I don't know if I want to sell Porter right now. It wasn't too long ago that he was the top high school recruit. Now that he's healthy, I would want to see what I got.

30 Jun 2019 17:06:37
Cant wait for Millsap to crush Bol Bol's soul at practice.

24 Jun 2019 10:43:58
Grizzlies-Nuggets-Wizards

Grizzlies out: Crowder, 2nd rd pick
Grizzlies in: Lyles
- get a young forward to play with Jackson
- release Korver

Morant-Carter
Holiday-Allen
Brooks-Anderson
Jackson-Lyles
Valanciunas-Rabb

Nuggets out: Harris, Barton, Lyles, Morris, 2 1st round picks
Nuggets in: Beal, Crowder
- get a star player and a quality role guy

Murray-Thomas
Beal-Beasley-Vanderbilt
Crowder-Craig
Millsap-Porter-Hernangomez
Jokic-Plumlee-Bol

Wizards out: Beal
Wizards in: Harris, Barton, Morris, 2 1st round picks Nuggets, 2nd rd pick Memphis
- rebuild

Morris-Wall
Harris-Brown
Barton-Simmons
Hachimura-Parker
Bryant-Howard

25 Jun 2019 00:04:49
I wish all you stop trying out bradly beal name in trades and wall name to . The wizards not rebuilding, they not trading either one. They told everyone there not readying them.

23 Jun 2019 16:46:00
Cavs continue rebuilding / getting picks

Heat received JR Smith

Mavs received Tristan Thompson and Colin Sexton

Blazers received Kevin Love

Cavs received
- Ryan Anderson, 2022 2nd rp (less favorable pick from Nuggets or 76ers) and 2023 1st rp (Top 3 Protected) from Heat
This trade will give Heat the Cap Space they need by waiving Smith right away to sign free agent/s this season.

- Courtney Lee, 2020 2nd rp from Mavs (more favorable pick from Warriors or Rockets), 2020 1st rp from Mavs (Top 3 Protected) and 2022 1st rp from Mavs (Unprotected) from Mavs
This trade is to fill out their need in PG and C positions. Sexton will be a great addition to this team after they traded Dennis Smith Jr. to the Knicks. Tristan will fill out C position and he played for Texas so it should be a fresh start for him. Mavs roster would be ready to get back to playoffs after this.

- Evan Turner, Mo Harkless, 2024 1st rp (Lottery Protected), 2022 1st rp (Unprotected) from Blazers
Love to Blazers hit the rumor news since 2016. Now, Blazers can get him for two overpaid players and also by giving away two 1st round picks that will obviously land in the latter part of 1st round.

Cavs starting 5

PG Darius Garland
SG Dylan Windler
SF Cedi Osman
PF Larry Nance Jr.
C Ante Zizic (a potential break for Ante!)

Jordan Clarkson and Kevin Porter Jr. will come off the bench to give Cavs' 2nd squad a scoring punch.

23 Jun 2019 17:38:53
Is this a joke? Cavs give up JR contract, Love, Thompson, and Sexton for a late 2nd and a 1st. They can get that from JR contract alone.

23 Jun 2019 17:44:22
My fault JoyBoyToy I only read what Heat gave Cavs. That would be a real good return for Cavs, but I don't think Mavs could trade the 2 1st.

23 Jun 2019 19:14:38
I read that the same way. Haha. The Mavs can’t trade the 20 or 22 picks though because of the Siepen rule.

24 Jun 2019 01:44:57
Thanks nick420 and rkenne_16
It's true Portland would not give two 1st rds and would provide high protection to its pick. Also stepien rule only applies if portland has traded their 2021 to other team. As far as I know portland still owns it. Or do they.

24 Jun 2019 01:49:32
I mean Mavs. Lol.

19 Jun 2019 18:21:49
Memphis okc. Memphis flips korver to okc for 21st pick.


Crowder to denver or portland for a pick.

19 Jun 2019 18:42:00
Denver doesn’t have their pick this year.

19 Jun 2019 18:48:35
Or, Korver and Crowder to Portland for Turner, Trent Jr, and a first?

19 Jun 2019 19:12:52
Okc has $7 mil on cap space to take on Korver?

19 Jun 2019 22:26:59
Fredman they still have that 10 mil trade exception from the melo trade I think it expires in july, but they wouldn't take on Korvers contract they are trying to cut salary right now.

19 Jun 2019 22:57:22
Fredman isn't the cap hold like 4 for the pick?

13 Jun 2019 17:56:18
Pelicans' way

1st trade:
Pelicans get Beal, Kuzma, future LA 1st
Lakers get AD, Moore
Wizards get Ingram, 4th pick

2nd trade:
Pelicans get Plumlee
Nuggets get future 1st for cap relief/flexibility (could cut Milsap and sign FA like Butler)

3rd trade (s&t):
Pelicans get Justin Holiday
Grizzlies get Hill, 2nd round pick

Resign Payton, Diallo, Okafor & Miller

Roster:
Holiday/Payton/Jackson
Beal/Holiday(FA)/Williams
Kuzma/Miller
Zion/Diallo
Plumlee/Okafor

13 Jun 2019 18:19:40
I don’t think the Lakers will want to take anyone back except for Davis.

13 Jun 2019 18:55:56
Beal>Ingram + #4 pick.

13 Jun 2019 06:19:50
A silly idea

The Hornets send: Nick Batum, Malik Monk, 12th pick, and 2020 first rounder
Hornets receive: Gary Harris and M. Plumlee

Nuggets send: Gary Harris and M. Plumlee
Nuggets receive: Picks 9, 12, Hornets 2020 first rounder, Malik Monk, and John Wall.

Wizards send: John Wall and the 9th pick
Wizards receive: Nick Batum

Hornets get off one of the worse contracts in the NBA and get back a good starter on a fine salary who’a size and skillset is perfect fit next to Kemba. He also brings scoring that’s desperately needed for the team. I figured it would cost 2 first just to bribe someone to take Batum and another to get Gary.

Washington cuts 15 mil off of both of the next 2 years. Then there off Batum while Walk is still cost 42-44 mil a year. Batum’s also more of an offball guy who could settle better into a complimentary role.

This started by me wondering what move the Nuggets could make to get into the draft so they could take Brandon Clarke, who would be the perfect compliment for Jokic due to his ability to guard literally every position and his need for a Center who can stretch the floor (Clark’s game close to the bucket is actually worth the trouble of a floor stretching 5). The Nuggets get 2 lottery picks this year, another next year, and a former first rounder in Monk just to take on Wall’s money and lose Gary. Nuggets will have the space after declining Millsap’s option and Wall might actually have some upside left in there to harness, and if he doesn’t you still got 4 young assets for him. The Nuggets at this point would have a bit of a jam of upcoming players and could try to package some of those guys including Monk for another deal.

15 Jun 2019 19:28:00
Why would anyone, forget about the nuggets, take on Wall? Absolutely not. Washington has to eat that for the life of the contract and so does Houston with Paul.

05 Jun 2019 21:16:00
Pels - Harris MPJ Beasley Hernangomez and 2 future1st
Nuggets - AD

Holiday
Harris
MPJ
Zion
Randle

Murray
Barton
Craig
AD
Jokic

05 Jun 2019 21:24:20
Not a bad offer, but I think it's easily beaten by other teams offers.

03 Jun 2019 22:34:24
Nuggets-Pelicans

Nuggets- Holiday

Pelicans- Harris, Porter, 1st rd pick

Yes hard to give up Porter for Nuggets but they can an all star caliber talent in Holiday to pair with Jokic & Murray

G- Murray-
G- Holiday-Beasley
F- Craig-Barton
F- Millsap-Lyles-Hernangomez
C- Jokic-Plumlee

Pelicans-Knicks

Pelicans- Barrett, Knox, Robinson & Dallas 1st rounders

Knicks- Davis


Pelicans young deep roster
G- Payton-Clark
G- Harris-Moore
F- Barrett-Porter-Johnson-Hill
F- Zion-Knox
C- Robinson-Okafor

05 Jun 2019 05:20:53
Nuggets get hosed. no way. Way too much for Holiday. Maybe Harris straight up. nothin more.

22 May 2019 23:02:26
Boston/ Detroit/ Denver

Boston get Barton/ Kennard/ Reggie Jackson

Detroit get J. Brown/ G. Harris

Denver get Hayward Galloway

Boston get rid of Hayward contract, they get a solid pg If irving and rozier leave, and also a solid 3p shooter kennard.

Denver get a former and still a possible futute all star in Hayward and Galloway for Harris and Barton i think it s a good risk to try go futher in playoffs

Detroit i m not sure if this help or not Detroit.

Opinions?

22 May 2019 23:10:01
Denver gets screwed.

22 May 2019 23:26:53
Boston isn't going to give up Brown without getting a starter in return. None of those guys the Celtics get would start for them. Kennard might not even get rotation minutes.

22 May 2019 23:42:20
Lol you are not sure if it helps Detroit? This is a highway robbery for them.

23 May 2019 00:22:12
I love it. Don’t give up brown unless you get a starter. Wel. He isn’t a starter so that doesn’t make sense. Additionally you give up one of the worst contracts in the league. So that’s a thing as well lol. Man those Celtics are looking worse and worse lol.

23 May 2019 01:08:09
I agree notdrainer. I love how they are overrating these Boston young guys while their values are declining. Maybe if Kyrie leaves they’ll be back to their 2018 playoffs selves.

23 May 2019 10:07:25
I think it's funny how you say that Boston fans overvalue our players. There isn't one person here that doesn't do the same. SMH. Lol
Not sure if anyone saw the article, but they talking to NBA exec's. GM's, Scouts, etc, and most of them said that they valued Jaylen Brown almost as much as Tatum.

19 May 2019 04:58:00
LA Clips trade Gallo and a 2019 first rounder

Denver trades either Barton and Lyles or Lyles and Plumlee

Clips get some abilities to trade with Lyles or can use him on his restricted deal at 4.7. They can trade Barton or keep him. Then they go off and get Leonard.

Denver gets Gallo for one year to mentor MPJ to act like the SF that the young guy needs.

19 May 2019 09:20:36
LAC doesn't have a 2019 1st, Boston owns it. Due to the Stipien Rule a team can't trade consecutive 1sts, so the earliest they could trade a 1st is 2021.

19 May 2019 13:38:46
Clippers can trade their 2020 first immediately after Boston makes a draft selection using the Clippers 2019 first round pick per the Stepien Rule.

However, Lyles cannot be traded as he is entering his RFA per the CBA.

21 May 2019 00:58:18
So what about Barton for Gallo. straight up.

18 May 2019 01:36:12
Okay, I would love to see the Pacers sign a big time free agent or event trade for a all-star level player. However, I just don't think they'll be able to sign anyone like that and to trade for an all-star might cost more that they want to pay. So here is my thoughts:

-Pacers trade the #18 pick to Phoenix for T.J. Warren.
-Pacers trade T.J. Leaf and D. McDermott to Denver for W. Barton.
- Pacers sign N. Vonleh for $10M/yr.
- Pacers sign J. Lamb for $13M/yr and move V. Oladipo to the Point.
- Pacers sign M. Kleber for $10M/yr.
- Pacers re-sign Bogie for 2yr/$31M early bird. Do this last!

Vonleh/Kleber
Bogdanovic/Warren
Turner/Sabonis
Lamb/Barton
Oladipo/Holiday

09 May 2019 17:48:02
Wizards / Nuggets trade

Wizards trade: Brad Beal, Ian Manhimi
Nuggets trade: Gary Harris, Michael Porter Jr, Malik Beasley, 2020 first 2022 second.

09 May 2019 19:19:16
It’s fair value, but I wouldn’t want to give up far and away my best perimeter defender.

19 May 2019 16:19:19
Sorry Denver doesn’t have to give up that much. Maybe Harris and a first for Beal? He’s got a huge contract and is untradable in ways.

08 May 2019 15:26:39
Obviously post trade both teams would need to make another move or two to maximize their teams, but what about


Jamal Murray for Ben Simmons.

The Nuggets make another move or two to add some more shooting afterward. The 76ers do everything they can to keep Harris and Butler plus try to add someone like Beverly that can be another secondary facilitator, shoot and defend.

08 May 2019 16:13:26
Let's face it Simmons is a good reg. Season player, and a below avg post season player. The guy disappears way to often. Murray seems to get better as the stakes get higher. Take away being the #1 pick and all the hype and Simmons is nothing more than a role player.

08 May 2019 16:55:13
I wouldn't trade Murray for Simmons. Murray has all the tools to be as good as any PG in the NBA.

That said, calling Simmons a role player is not true at all. He's a 22 year old, 6'10, point guard all star in his second year. He's only going to get better. 17/ 9/ 8, PER of 20, and a solid defender. None of that screams role player. It says he's young. Maybe (likely) he never turns into a #1 option, but how many of those are there in the NBA? Being a second or third option isn't a horrible thing.

08 May 2019 17:44:38
Rkeene- how does that trade help Denver? isn't a younger cheaper version of Simmons on their roster in mpj?

08 May 2019 18:51:31
I don’t see Murray as a top flight pg in the NBA. He’s more of a combo that needs protected on the defensive end. So does Jokic. There fatal flaw is going to be playing teams like the Rockets and Warriors that are just going to force both guys to defend on the perimeter. Now, if you have the right personnel, you can protect one of them, but they can’t protect both and with Millsap on the decline, they don’t have the switchable defenders they need. Throw in Simmons and that’s no longer a problem. He’s the defender they need and with Jokic, they can utilize Simmons cutting, utilized his transition ability, let him stay inside to get offensive boards, and they don’t need his spacing. He also takes a lot of pressure off of Jokic to create everything for everyone else.

Murray can create his own offense, play on and off ball, the Sixers have guys to protect him, he fits with Embiid, and he’s the 1 on 1 offensive player that they need.

09 May 2019 13:35:45
Why would you take the ball out of Jokic's hands and put it in Simmons hands?

25 Mar 2019 14:13:18
Nuggets get Davis, Hill

Pelicans get Harris,Porter Jr, Beasley 2020 1st 2022 1st

25 Mar 2019 17:31:43
gotta include murray.

23 Mar 2019 07:37:06
Nuggets
E.Turner
M.Leonard
Z.Collins
'20 1st

Blazers
P.Milsap

DEN picks up option and trades him

23 Mar 2019 13:13:29
Millsap has fallen off pretty considerably the past few years. 2 or 3 years ago I could see it, but now, it seems like a steep overpay.

23 Mar 2019 14:28:39
Thought it matched your Aldridge deal pretty closely.

23 Mar 2019 15:35:14
I guess, it’s just how you see Millsap and Aldridge. Aldridge is older, but he seems to be holding his value better than Millsap imo.

23 Mar 2019 16:33:10
Same for Exum too I guess.

23 Mar 2019 23:49:45
Denver better off dropping milsap make a run at KD. Porter as his backup.

 
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