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15 Oct 2019 12:18:28
Blockbasters can be nice but simple trades are more simple .. :: (()) : )

Since Pelicans have an amazing young grid and a lot of 3&D Players and Alexander will fit well from the beginning Josh Hart will not see much minutes in the backcourt and is undersized on the wing.

Mavs need a 3&D guy (also i'm THJ improves his Defense) and have a lot of inside outside scoring forwards that can create their own shoot, what Pelicans would need probably more than 3&D, so they could offer the young talented Jackson and a 2nd as a sweetener.

Pelicans: Justin Jackson, 2nd
Mavs: Josh Hart

15 Oct 2019 13:12:50
Knicks still waiting thj improve on his defense.

15 Oct 2019 20:37:23
Nice job!

15 Oct 2019 01:25:47
4 team trade
DALLAS-DETROIT-OKC-MEMPHIS

DALLAS GETS DRUMMOND and IGGUDOLA

DETROIT GETS ADAMS

OKC GETS HARDAWAY AND JACKSON

MEMPHIS GETS LEE

TRADE WORKS ON TRADE MACHINE

OKC GETS JACKSON AND TELLS HARDAWAY NOT TO REPORT AS THEY WILL TRADE HIM. HE WILL NOT BE A PART OF TEAM WHEN OPTION COMES UP WHICH MEANS THEY GET MUCH NEEDED CAP RELIEF.

DETROIT GETS ADAMS WHO WILL.BE BETTER NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER IN WESTBROOKS SHADOW AND COULD BE WILLING TO SIGN LONG TERM.

MEMPHIS GETS LESS EXPENSIVE LEE AND CAP RELIEF NEXT SEASON..

DALLAS GETS CENTER IN DRUMMOND AND IGGY TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ALONG WITH 3PT SHOOTING...

15 Oct 2019 20:41:23
And what draft picks are Dallas giving up to make this happen?

14 Oct 2019 20:33:42
TOR-PHO-DAL

TOR:
-Hardaway Jr.
-J. Jackson
-Bridges
-DAL 2020 2nd

PHO:
-Ibaka
-DAL 2026 1st

DAL:
-Ayton
-T. Johnson

14 Oct 2019 20:41:10
Phoenix passes.

14 Oct 2019 21:10:59
I assume this is a joke.

15 Oct 2019 13:38:02
Joke? Yes, one of the worst ones tossed out here in some time, IMHO. I believe the term that used out here to be used for items such as these was, "Step away from the crack pipe. "

15 Oct 2019 17:23:19
No way Suns trade Ayton already. Also don't see Dallas giving up two picks on an American born player, just saying that Donnie Nelson thinks foreign players the way to go because he hit on 2 out of 50. LOVE MAVS but not a fan of DONNIE.

15 Oct 2019 21:08:19
No way SUNS give up on AYTON in only his second season.

13 Oct 2019 22:03:13
TOR-NOP-DAL

TOR:
-Hardaway Jr.
-J. Jackson
-B. Ingram
-Mavs 2nd 2020

NOP:
-N. Powell

DAL:
-Ibaka

13 Oct 2019 22:17:34
No way the Pelicans do that.

13 Oct 2019 23:16:12
Yeah, the Pelicans are getting robbed.

12 Oct 2019 23:30:30
A lot of possible trade to discuss, basically I would like to keep THJ. He may fit great as a starting Guard that get open looks and focus on defense. But his contract gives volume to trade.

I think that one has a chance!

Miami: C.Paul, K.Love, Burton, Nadar, 1st back via OKC

Cavs: J.Jackson, 1st Miami, J.Johnson

Mavs: Adams, Waiters, Ferguson

OKC: THJ, Windler, Leonard, Dragic, Lee,

Miami: Try it by veterans CP3, Butler, Love and Adebayo, Winslow and Herro arround!

Cavs: Go joung and get J.Jackson and a 1st 2020 for Love

Mavs: Get a strong force in the middle for a 1st and change THJ by Waiters and Jackson by a 3&D Ferguson.

OKC: Go unter the luxury CAP and finalize their rebuild and free up a lot CAP next year move and get a scorer on the wing.

13 Oct 2019 14:32:39
I don’t think the Cavs would give up Windler in a deal like tins. They’re basically just trading a 1st from last year for a future first.

13 Oct 2019 19:57:26
If they keep Windler, they will have 16 players and need to move one away. Since y a basically right, you can take every other palyer instead of him.

13 Oct 2019 23:22:33
They just took him in the first round and he probably improved his stock in the summer league. I’d take him over a late future first any day.

12 Oct 2019 23:24:58
Celtics.get Adams, Lee, Nader

Mavs get Schroeder, Ojeleye, 2020 Milwaukee first via Boston

Okc gets Hayward, Williams III, Brunson

Paul, Brunson, FA
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Hayward, Roberson, Burton
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Noel, Williams, Patton

Third point could be Felton, Harris, Lin... or they pursue another trade. But realistically, Shai is the backup point with Brunson as the third pg. This deal cuts the salary to duck luxury with room to bring in one more guy even. They have lots of shooting and enough D. With all the talk about moving their vets for assets, I wonder how they'd fair with a deal like this: pushing for a playoff spot while retaining picks.

Celtics make tons of sense for Adams. He could make all their guys better. Not a terrible contract for all he does.

Mavs add a pick.... albeit a most likely late one. They do this for the sake of adding a scoring punch to their bench as they too chase a playoff spot in the west.

11 Oct 2019 03:52:42
heat mavs thunder

thunder send cris paul and robertson to heat

Heat send dragic and waiters to Mavs

thunder recive Lee and Hardaway jr. from Mavs and 2rd 2021, and J. johnson and Olynyk form heat and 2rd 2020

Paul goes to miami and mavs get a point guard Ok get good players 2 2rd and ending contracts

what do you thinking guys?

11 Oct 2019 08:15:49
Since OKC want to reduce CAP and started to rebuild send Dragic (exp. ) to OKC and Adams to Dallas, on PG they have Wright/ Brunson! Voila - of mine.

11 Oct 2019 12:07:55
Miami has repeatedly said thst they want their first rounders back from OKC to take on Paul's bad contract and tendency to be injured.

11 Oct 2019 13:33:32
At this point unless we can do like Paul for Wall and multiple firsts, I’d rather at a spat and see what we can find closer to December or the deadline.

11 Oct 2019 16:55:42
You are not getting multiple first in a Paul-Wall swap, unless Wall's rehab goes south in a hurry.

11 Oct 2019 22:11:41
And even if his rehab fails, he’s still insured. His cap hit might hurt the team, but the owners of a non-contending micro-market like OKC could use the cash, especially after their foray into the lux recently.

10 Oct 2019 10:52:46
Mavs need this strong guy in the middle and a quick 3&D as we can see if they wanna become contender!

So best fit!

Kings:
- Lee, 1st pick
76ers:
- Jackson, 2 x 2nd pick
Mavs:
- C.Webber, A.Iverson

Voila ! : )

10 Oct 2019 14:39:50
Kings say no. Counter offer with Hall of Famer Vlade Divac.

11 Oct 2019 06:01:58
This more mobil and flexible force in the middle like C. Webber is good fit. But since Divac is from Serbia and can hit the 3, maybe. : ) In this way he may get finally a ring. ; )

10 Oct 2019 02:35:27
Cavs get Paul, Nader, Burton
***Unmentioned Paul destination that I think makes sense. Pair him with Love in a weak East and maybe they add another piece with their expiring deals. Doesn't cost any picks.

Mavs get Thompson, Knight
***They get a couple role players who are also expiring contracts.

Thunder get Hardaway, Lee, Sexton
***Add an asset and depth on the wings. No more long term money tied up in Paul. Gives them another guy to build around.

Sexton, Schroeder
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Hardaway, Lee, Roberson
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

10 Oct 2019 08:22:01
I like K Love and CP3 in the same team, but i don't see this happen with the cavs.

And the cavs shouldn't give up a young piece for an aging pointguard.

10 Oct 2019 09:11:38
Sexton has positive value. Paul has negative value. Also, if they don’t finish bottom 10, they lose their pick. So this could cost them a pick and they still might not make the playoffs.

09 Oct 2019 19:42:12
The Mavs could help to facilitate a CP3 trade and help OKC to go under the luxury and to get 40+ expiring contracts, that may be an opportunistic chance the Mavs are looking for! And OKC gets another scorer that they can try to improve on THJ.

In another trade Mavs go for a 3&D:

76ers: Jackson
Mavs: Z.Smith

Miami: Paul, Nadar, Burton
OKC: Hardaway, Dragic, Lee, Leonard
Dallas: Adams, Waiters

10 Oct 2019 00:18:51
You keep on posting same trade everyday, why?

10 Oct 2019 10:54:30
How to find the working case!

10 Oct 2019 14:44:24
99dollars, you actually read these everday posts by ddrainer? Took me a while to understand that reverse psychology is needed here.

Oh yea, i forgot. FANTASTIC JOB DDRAINER!

08 Oct 2019 20:49:23
Another proposal would use the request of MIA to get Paul and OKC to dump money:

MIA:
- Paul, Jackson
OKC:
- Dragic, Leonard, Hardaway, Lee
DAL:
- Adams, Waiters, Roberson

08 Oct 2019 20:46:38
Center days!

If, then the next two nights, Mavs may add a real center in Adams or Drummond.

Tonight? OKC wants to get under the cap (since they are some bucks above).

A trade with less money back would already fulfill this demand.

My first proposal would be, since Mavs could take Roberson by their trade exception:

Mavs: -Adams, Ferguson, Roberson
OKC: -Hardaway, Jackson, 1st

07 Oct 2019 09:17:34
The next days Mavs play OKC and Detroit.

Dealing for Adams and Iggy would add some defense to Dallas!

Mavs:
- Adams, Ferguson, Iguodala
OKC:
- Hardaway, Jackson, 1st pick
Grizzlies:
- Lee, 3x2nd pick

07 Oct 2019 14:00:02
Dallas is not getting enough for Lee.

07 Oct 2019 18:17:25
We gratefully acknowledge, a Fredman post that is not nonsense!

06 Oct 2019 20:15:01
OKC: Hardayway, 1st pick

MAVS: Adams, Ferguson

If DET doesn`t extend Drummond, Mavs could send Adams for Drummond.

06 Oct 2019 20:37:02
Hardaway is basically Adams, and Ferguson is worth more than a first.

07 Oct 2019 14:03:39
Why so much negativity for Darry's evaulation of OKC players?

06 Oct 2019 02:59:21
MAVS/CAVS/PISTONS

This trade passes on trade machine.

MAVS get Drummond from Detroit
get Osman from Cleveland

CAVS get Hardaway and Jackson
from Dallas

Pistons get Lee from Dallas
get Thompson from Cleveland

WHY DETROIT,,,both expiring contracts that could be resigned if they fit team... Most likely will not resign Drummond so this opens up cap space.

WHY CLEVELAND,,, upgrade at shooting guard and young player who fits into budget with control for two seasons while also opening up cap space..

WHY DALLAS,,, Fills need for a defensive rebounder and pick and roll player to feed off Luka and Porzee. Also allows Dallas chance to sign Drummond to extension in same manner as Porzingis deal.

06 Oct 2019 11:03:43
That’s awful for the Cavs. Hardaway and Clarkson are the same guy. Osman is currently their starting sf. Why give up young talent for an inefficient, overpaid sixth man?

Detroit gets shafted even harder in this. They down grade at center, get older, and get a player in Lee that just isn’t very good for one of the better young centers in basketball.

The Mavs give up nothing of value and get back the two
Off valuable players in the trade.

06 Oct 2019 13:08:47
Nice! *applause*.

05 Oct 2019 13:25:38
Adams may be one of the best defenders of the paint.
Hardaway in NY was playmaker and 1 scoring option, when he was overhelmed. But as a 6th man or a 3rd scoring option, when he gets got looks from his teammates he may be able to hit the numbers, that he had in Atlanta with 45++ shooting - and hense a quite good SG in this league since he has the physics to be a good defender. OKC asking high but in this trade it may fit for each Team!

Detroit:
- Adams
- Hardaway
- Burton
- 2nd Mavs

OKC:
- Lee
- Galloway
- J.Jackson
- 1st Mavs

Dallas:
- Drummond
- Snell
- K.Thomnas

With Hardaway and Adams Detroit will be a better Team offense and defense!

OKC gets a prosect wing a 1st.

Mavs get a strong 2way force in the middle and with Snell / Thomas 3$D players, when Thomas will have time to develop.

Win - Win - Win

05 Oct 2019 14:27:16
Another 1 sided Dallas trade. That’s surprising.

05 Oct 2019 15:20:41
This is wonderful.

05 Oct 2019 15:56:32
No clue that Porzingis and Drummond is too slow for today nba especially with Doncic on the wing. Fouling would be their only def.

05 Oct 2019 21:51:57
Y are right, it is the question if it would work well and it is a risk for Dallas. Basically it is a risk to have Drummond when everybody goes small.
But I see a big chance it may work in Dallas because Drummond is not only big he is quite mobil. He brings rebound, he may able to improve defense, when the Porzee is beside him, he is good in catch and roll and have a soft hand to score inside, beside dunkings but he can also pass the ball. To be quick I think Thomas could develop himself to start with Wright in the backcourt and then you have 4 shooters around Drummond and that may be a great fit.

A differnt way, risky but I would enjoy the vision how it could work! The good thing is, it could become proven for one season and Mavs could extent Drummond max if it works out this year! Because they would have a young team overall - if it works well. Detroit would not, Jackson and Griffin are already in their prime or at the end of it, this is why I think they would not invest a max. But with Adams and Hardaway they would have midterm the better team! OKC Jackson and the 1st pick and expiring contracts, exactly what they ask for. So this may be one of the better and realistic trade proposales of mine! : )

03 Oct 2019 17:47:02
OKC is looking to move Adams a similar player to Drummond better on the defense site, less on offense or rebounding. Drummond is seeking a 5y MAX that Detroit may be not able to offer. 76ers have a lot of 3&D players but less creating scorer forwards. Mavs need 3&D and in may point of view a force in the middle!

Detroit:
- Adams
- Hardaway
- Burton

OKC:
- Lee
- Galloway
- K.Thomas
- 1st Mavs

Dallas:
- Drummond
- Snell
- Z.Smith

76ers:
- Justin Jackson


OKC:
Get their 1st pick, a young player and expiring contracts.

Detroit:
Adams / Hardaway are updates over Drummond / Snell and are two 2y on contract, have space to develop exactly to the pieces that Detroit needs beside Griffin, Jackson/Rose and the young guys and may not as for a MAX extention.

Dallas:
Get the two way force in the middle that they can pay and will have Curry, Snell and ZSmith on 3&D / 3er shooting guard

76ers:
Get a forward that can score and create his own shoot, similar to and to backup Tobias Harris

03 Oct 2019 20:39:10
No way Philly does that. Pistons also say no.

03 Oct 2019 20:50:40
76ers say no. Scoring is not the 76ers issue.

Detriot probably passes as well as they to will want a draft pick to trade away Drummond.

04 Oct 2019 17:42:13
Really another Drummond trade idea. 1st of all, drummond and Porzingis front court with doncic will loose 50 games. Every team will run on them. Powell is perfect compliment to Porzingis. Just be happy if Porzingis plays 70 games with outgetting injuried. 7'4" guys after knee surgery are very deceptive to more injuries.

03 Oct 2019 15:27:28
This could be something that knicks will risk to land AD next yr.

Warriors won more because of their depth star power. Will look to build for the future

Curry McKinnie Smailagic
for
SmithJr Knox Barrett Morris 2020 2022 NY 1st 2021 2023 DAL 1st

conference finals
Russell/SmithJr/Poole
Thompson/Evans/Burks
Barrett/Knox/Robinson
Green/Morris/Pashcall
Stein/Looney/Spellman


Trier 2nd for Poirier Ojeleye

Payton Ellington Bullock 2024 1st
for
Crowder Iggy Brooks

45 win team in east.
Curry/Ntilikina/Allen
Brooks/Dotson/fa
Crowder/Iggy/Brazdeikas
Randle/Portis/Ojeleye
Robinson/Gibson/Poirer

03 Oct 2019 16:51:32
It's not a horrible package for Curry. But there's absolutely no way the Warriors trade Curry when (if healthy) they're still probably the most talented starting lineup in the NBA. You don't throw away chances at championships, and trading Curry removes any chance at one.

03 Oct 2019 17:05:11
The only one I see happening is perhaps the 3rd trade. No way on the other 2.

03 Oct 2019 17:17:28
They are not the best team in the league now with Green Thompson Russell and Curry. Their depth was just as great as their big 3 before durant after Durant. Now older and with injury tested they can't carry the team like last yr. I believe Clippers are that team Nuggets/ Blazers/ Warriors/ Lakers all can leap frog each other. Russell will be trade bait, we can revisit if they are the best.

Russell for Fultz Gordon

Russell
Thompson
Gordon
Green
Stein.

03 Oct 2019 22:32:24
I never said they as a team were better than everyone. But they’re right in the picture for a championship for the next few years. I don’t like the idea of throwing that away. It’s hard to build a team that can contend.

02 Oct 2019 23:31:59
Pistons:
- T.Thompson
- Hardaway
- 1st Mavs

76ers:
- Jackson

Cavs:
- Lee
- 2x2nd Mavs

Mavs:
- Drummond
- Snell
- Z.Smith

Dallas gets needed 3&D and a force in the middle.
Cavs get 2 picks finally for Thompson that will not extend.
76ers get a scorer backup for T.Harris that can create by himself. Jackson was pick 15/2017, Z.Smith pick 16/2018 think a exchange.
Pistons get another zoneplayer and a good scoring wing, that may help them well if he is health and scores the numbers he did in ATL 45%/35%.

03 Oct 2019 00:20:14
There’s actually talk that if they can get TT cheap, they may extend him. There’s a solid chance he’ll be traded, but if that’s all they can get for him/ his expiring, they probably value him more as a veteran leader that can still help the rookies on the floor and wants to be in Cleveland.

03 Oct 2019 00:37:43
Pistons say no.

03 Oct 2019 00:53:43
Pistons say no, 76ers say no, and Cavs say no.

03 Oct 2019 16:44:21
no, no, no? Wait a minute! Yes? Yes! Yes. ; )

29 Sep 2019 18:23:55
Toronto / Dallas / Oklahoma City


Dallas Gets

$44 Million Cash to buy out Chris Paul's Contract - Final Year from Thunder.
Chris Paul
T. Ferguson

3 SECOND ROUND PICKS LIST
2nd Round Pick 2024 Thunder
2nd Round Pick 2024 Grizzlies
2nd Round Pick 2025 Thunder


Toronto Gets

Steve Adams


Thunder Gets

Serge Ibaka (Expiring)
Lee (Expiring)
Hardaway Jr.

29 Sep 2019 19:13:06
Is that a $44 mil payment now to opt out of his final year? So Dallas is still going to pay him $124 mil.

Also OKC can not trade their 2024 and 2025 second rounders because they are tied to the 2022 first rounder if it does not convey to ATL (lottery protected) . Probably do better swapping with Denver's 2020 first rounder instead.

29 Sep 2019 19:39:39
You can’t give that much cash, it’s against the rules.

29 Sep 2019 21:38:49
Max cash that can be traded is about 5.5 million.

29 Sep 2019 21:42:34
BMiller, I don't think this a traditional buyout as they are not waiving Paul. Seems like a simple payment to opt out of the final year. Could not find any in the CBA disapproving this.

30 Sep 2019 02:46:31
It’s one team giving another team cash in a trade. That falls under cash considerations, which is capped at 5.5m per year.

30 Sep 2019 11:56:50
Okay, I must have misread it. I was thinking Dallas was giving Paul the money not OKC. couldn't they easily work around that by having OKC give Paul the money to opt out now and then trade him to Dallas?

30 Sep 2019 15:38:03
Pretty sure the only way they could give him money to opt out would be in a waiving situation. You can't just give a guy cash to opt out, it would have to be considered payment outside of his contract, which would go against the cap and exceed his max salary.

03 Oct 2019 20:33:07
I'm pretty sure Ibaka is better than Adams.

 
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