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14 Oct 2019 10:33:58
Heat: Aldridge, Mills

Mills
Butler
Winslow
Aldridge
Leonard/Olynyk

Spurs: Dragic, Johnson, Adebayo & 2025 1st round pick

Murray/Dragic
White/Forbes
Derozan/Carroll
Johnson/Gay
Bam/Poeltl

14 Oct 2019 12:12:03
I don't think Miami would give up Adebayo and a pick for Aldridge.

12 Oct 2019 23:30:30
A lot of possible trade to discuss, basically I would like to keep THJ. He may fit great as a starting Guard that get open looks and focus on defense. But his contract gives volume to trade.

I think that one has a chance!

Miami: C.Paul, K.Love, Burton, Nadar, 1st back via OKC

Cavs: J.Jackson, 1st Miami, J.Johnson

Mavs: Adams, Waiters, Ferguson

OKC: THJ, Windler, Leonard, Dragic, Lee,

Miami: Try it by veterans CP3, Butler, Love and Adebayo, Winslow and Herro arround!

Cavs: Go joung and get J.Jackson and a 1st 2020 for Love

Mavs: Get a strong force in the middle for a 1st and change THJ by Waiters and Jackson by a 3&D Ferguson.

OKC: Go unter the luxury CAP and finalize their rebuild and free up a lot CAP next year move and get a scorer on the wing.

13 Oct 2019 14:32:39
I don’t think the Cavs would give up Windler in a deal like tins. They’re basically just trading a 1st from last year for a future first.

13 Oct 2019 19:57:26
If they keep Windler, they will have 16 players and need to move one away. Since y a basically right, you can take every other palyer instead of him.

13 Oct 2019 23:22:33
They just took him in the first round and he probably improved his stock in the summer league. I’d take him over a late future first any day.

11 Oct 2019 14:33:58
Boston gets Adams, Schroeder, Denver 2020 first, Miami 2021 first

Spurs get Paul and Brown

Okc gets Hayward, Derozan, Mills

11 Oct 2019 15:29:38
Why should the Spurs do that? Paul has negative value and Brown almost none because he wants a max.
OKC might not do it because Hayward has the same value than Paul (maybe even less) . But DeRozan and Mills won't make them better than Adams, Paul and Schröder. So why giving up Picks? Boston does this in a heartbeat.

11 Oct 2019 16:45:31
I doubt Paul + Brown gets you Derozen. Let alone Derozen + Mills.

12 Oct 2019 02:24:15
Fredman, Mills may be a negative asset. He’s a mediocre back up pg making 10 million and signed for 3 more years.

12 Oct 2019 13:48:01
If you say so. He looked pretty good during the World Championship and can shoot. Every team values shooting. Much rather have Mills than Schroeder.

11 Oct 2019 03:52:42
heat mavs thunder

thunder send cris paul and robertson to heat

Heat send dragic and waiters to Mavs

thunder recive Lee and Hardaway jr. from Mavs and 2rd 2021, and J. johnson and Olynyk form heat and 2rd 2020

Paul goes to miami and mavs get a point guard Ok get good players 2 2rd and ending contracts

what do you thinking guys?

11 Oct 2019 08:15:49
Since OKC want to reduce CAP and started to rebuild send Dragic (exp. ) to OKC and Adams to Dallas, on PG they have Wright/ Brunson! Voila - of mine.

11 Oct 2019 12:07:55
Miami has repeatedly said thst they want their first rounders back from OKC to take on Paul's bad contract and tendency to be injured.

11 Oct 2019 13:33:32
At this point unless we can do like Paul for Wall and multiple firsts, I’d rather at a spat and see what we can find closer to December or the deadline.

11 Oct 2019 16:55:42
You are not getting multiple first in a Paul-Wall swap, unless Wall's rehab goes south in a hurry.

11 Oct 2019 22:11:41
And even if his rehab fails, he’s still insured. His cap hit might hurt the team, but the owners of a non-contending micro-market like OKC could use the cash, especially after their foray into the lux recently.

09 Oct 2019 19:42:12
The Mavs could help to facilitate a CP3 trade and help OKC to go under the luxury and to get 40+ expiring contracts, that may be an opportunistic chance the Mavs are looking for! And OKC gets another scorer that they can try to improve on THJ.

In another trade Mavs go for a 3&D:

76ers: Jackson
Mavs: Z.Smith

Miami: Paul, Nadar, Burton
OKC: Hardaway, Dragic, Lee, Leonard
Dallas: Adams, Waiters

10 Oct 2019 00:18:51
You keep on posting same trade everyday, why?

10 Oct 2019 10:54:30
How to find the working case!

10 Oct 2019 14:44:24
99dollars, you actually read these everday posts by ddrainer? Took me a while to understand that reverse psychology is needed here.

Oh yea, i forgot. FANTASTIC JOB DDRAINER!

09 Oct 2019 14:14:39
This won't happen, but I thought it was interesting.

Miami gets Paul, Looney, Ferguson, Denver 2020 first
***They get a young guy, a pick, and a serviceable big attached to Paul. They keep Bam, Herro, Winslow. I think that's good enough.

Warriors get Dragic, Olynyk, 2021 Miami first via okc
***I don't think Russel fits and I don't think he stays. Getting a guy like Olynyk who can start at the 5 and shoot is big. Dragic can run the bench. The first is gravy. Could end up being a great pick.

Thunder get Russel and Waiters
***I think Waiters is a big gamble. He could be a ball hog on a bloated deal. Or he could be a sixth man of the year candidate. Russel with SGA could be a good pairing tho. I'd love to see Okc chase a playoff berth.

Russel, Schroeder
SGA, Waiters, Burton
Roberson, Diallo, Nader
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

09 Oct 2019 15:32:03
OKC is getting way too much. If they had a standard expiring contract it would make sense, but not with Paul's deal.

Russell might not be a great fit with GS, but this is a massive downgrade in overall talent. And talent wins.

08 Oct 2019 20:49:23
Another proposal would use the request of MIA to get Paul and OKC to dump money:

MIA:
- Paul, Jackson
OKC:
- Dragic, Leonard, Hardaway, Lee
DAL:
- Adams, Waiters, Roberson

05 Oct 2019 18:51:28
Heat get Paul, Nader, Burton, Williams III
***They get Paul plus a first which should suffice. They get a few fillers too.

Celtics get Dragic, Olynyk, Roberson
***Olynyk played well for them previously. Dragic and Dre should also be solid role guys for them. Additionally, this gives them $20M in expiring for next summer.

Okc gets Hayward, Waiters, Ojeleye, Jones Jr.
***They kiss Chris Paul goodbye and create a very interesting lineup. SGA gets the keys to the offense. Roster balance is established along with a scoring hierarchy. Could be a sneaky team with still tons of picks.

SGA, Schroder
Ferguson, Waiters, Diallo
Hayward, Jones Jr.
Gallinari, Bazley, Ojeleye
Adams, Noel, Patton

05 Oct 2019 20:11:14
Forgot to put the Denver 2020 first From Okc to miami.

05 Oct 2019 21:25:15
Nicely done, Church. Looks lkke a super sweet deal. Just curious if OKC would still have to trade Gallo at the trade deadline. Can he be resigned and still remain under the luxury cap? Hope so.

04 Oct 2019 17:15:37
Heat - Thunder - Wizards

Heat gets:
Paul
Beal

Thunder gets:
Dragic (expiring)
Mahinmi (expiring)
J.Johnson
Leonard (expiring)
2025 1st from Heat (Top 7 protected)

Wizards gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Winslow
Herro
Adebayo

04 Oct 2019 17:33:16
2045 1st? Only team getting 1st are wiz. Okc will giving minimum of 1st over valuing heat players.

04 Oct 2019 17:40:23
Wizards aren’t getting a first. Instead they get three young players and a veteran PF on an expiring contract. I believe that’s fair for Beal.

04 Oct 2019 19:38:05
Paul+Gallo is not getting the Thunder expiring deals AND a first.

04 Oct 2019 20:30:13
Fredman, that’s your opinion. Let’s see what happens. I post trades that people press the “believable” button on. You post comments that people press “disagree” on.

04 Oct 2019 21:03:47
When the site has a majority of OKC homers on it, the "agree/ disagree" buttons come with a built in bias. But that is just my opinion.

04 Oct 2019 21:12:42
You may get a 1st for Gallo, but I don’t think you can get expirings for Paul.

And OKC doesn’t have real motivation to add assets to get off Paul, even with the picks they got for him him the Westbrook trade,

04 Oct 2019 21:30:46
Agree! Fredman you never posted a trade. Just complaining.

04 Oct 2019 21:39:34
100% agree with Fredman. Gallo has the value of maybe a late first. Paul is negative two firsts or so. This doesn't add up.

04 Oct 2019 22:04:56
Rodman, i do post trades. I just don't waste everyones time with obvious homer trades. At this point of the season, GMs are waiting to see what their rostets can do. I am also follow their lead.

07 Oct 2019 03:43:52
I agree with the gms waiting And if some teams don’t like what they are looking like u r gunna see some things happen that most people thought teams couldn’t get and do.

30 Sep 2019 17:00:03
Miami B Griffin+ CP3+ return 1 rnd pick Miam 2023

OKC: winslow+ J Johnson

Detroit:A Gordon+ Olynyk

Orlando:Dragic+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021 (lottery protected)

30 Sep 2019 21:43:55
Gordon worth more, not much more but more.

01 Oct 2019 23:19:38
Orlando will land an old Guard and loose Gordon. NO WAY.

02 Oct 2019 08:37:33
Orlando can use a pointguard, Fultz can get his minutes from the bench, playing pointguard and shootingguard.

Isaac should get more minutes, so A gordon is expendable. he's an exiting player, but not an all star, so getting a pick for him isn't a bad return.

02 Oct 2019 23:01:05
Gasupo- I agree but gotdon has more value than this trade.

30 Sep 2019 12:21:59
Heat - Pistons - Thunder

Heat gets:
Paul
Griffin
Nader
Mykhailiuk
2021 2nd rd pick (Lakers via Pistons)

Pistons gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Schroeder
Olynyk
Herro

Thunder gets:
Dragic (expiring)
Jackson (expiring)
J.Johnson
Winslow
2025 1st rd pick (Heat, Lottery Protected)
Leonard (expiring)

30 Sep 2019 13:06:17
The Piston’s are getting way to little and the Thunder are getting way to much.

30 Sep 2019 15:06:43
The Paul Griffin pairing is not something I would want. Too much history between them.

30 Sep 2019 15:32:50
Agreed with Fred. Paul and Griffin seemed to hate playing with each other, it doesn't seem like a smart idea to bring them back together, especially with Paul having substantially declined.

29 Sep 2019 17:44:36
Okc- heat

Okc:

Dragic
J.Johnson
Herro

Heat:

CP3
1st rd pick for taking Paul's contract
1st rd pick ( basically for Herro)

29 Sep 2019 18:52:45
First off, which teams picks are these? OKC, Denver, Miami, Houston or Clippers?

Also, Herro was a lottery pick. So he is probably more valuable than any lottery protected pick.

So Miami is going to want another 1st rounder or swap out Herro with Okpala or Jones, Jr. to do this deal.

29 Sep 2019 20:55:27
I meant to say, give heat both of their picks back.

I really feel like Presti would rather pay CP3 his contract in full, than put any picks in on a trade.

29 Sep 2019 21:16:42
I meant to say, heat get both of their picks back.

I really think Presti would rather pay CP3 his contract in full, than to put any picks in a trade.

30 Sep 2019 12:00:00
Probably true about Presti paying, but I think his hands get tied once Paul starts yelling at all the youngsters Presti will be bringing in over the next couple of years.

28 Sep 2019 15:25:17
Orlando gets Paul, Bridges, Baynes, 2021 clips pick
***Fultz can either come off the bench while still getting starter mins (a la Harden in okc) or he can slide to the 2. Orlando is definitely a playoff team but need someone with vet experience to lead the way. They alleviate the logjam down low as well. Adding the pick is gravy.

Phoenix gets Gordon, Fournier, Nader, 2020 Denver 1st, 2021 Miami 1st
***Gordon and Ayton should be fun. I don't see Booker wanting to stay in Phoenix long term (despite his extension). This also brings in a good shooter who can do some of the same things as Booker in Fournier. Those two firsts help too.

Okc gets Booker and Augustin
***Solidifies the backcourt for the next 5-10 years. They could be a surprise team moving forward with good depth. Sign a vet with their open roster spot or keep it open closer to playoff push.

SGA, Schroeder, Augustin
Booker, Diallo, Burton
Roberson, Ferguson, (vet signing)
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

28 Sep 2019 17:57:47
Not a big deal but the Clippers pick will be a 2022 pick. Clippers own their 2021 pick.

29 Sep 2019 01:43:19
You don't get booker for that.

29 Sep 2019 16:15:33
Extremely bad for Orlando.

28 Sep 2019 11:29:10
Heat - Thunder - Timberwolves

Heat gets:
Paul
Nader
2020 2nd rd pick Thunder
2021 2nd rd pick Timberwolves

Thunder gets:
Wiggins
J.Johnson
Dieng
2025 1st rd pick Heat (Lottery protected)

Timberwolves gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Dragic (expiring)
Leonard (expiring)

28 Sep 2019 13:40:00
Miami has repeatedly stated that they want OKC to return their 1st rounders in any Chris Paul trade. I doubt they would all of a sudden be willing to give OKC another one of their firsts in a Chris Paul trade.

28 Sep 2019 14:49:15
In this trade they don’t give up Winslow and save 5 million in salary. That’s why they give up the extra first.

28 Sep 2019 18:02:55
Miami doesn't really care about that. They are operating with leverage as there are no other "buyers" for Chris Paul. "Here is the price we are willing to pay. Take it or keep a soon-to-be disgruntled Chris Paul. " says the Godfather Pat Riley.

26 Sep 2019 21:29:42
Heat / Timberwolves / Thunder


Miami Gets

Chris Paul
T. Ferguson
D. Bazley
M. Muscala (Expiring)
2021 MIAMI 1st
2021 OKC 2nd
2023 MIAMI 1st
2024 OKC 2nd
2026 OKC 2nd

Minnesota Gets

Gallinari (Expiring)
Roberson (Expiring)
33 Million Plus (Expiring)
2020 Nuggets 1st

Oklahoma City Gets

Wiggins from Timberwolves
Dragic from Heat
Johnson from Heat
Winslow from Heat
Waiters from Heat

26 Sep 2019 23:24:56
Haha why should OKC give up 3 1st Rounders to get worse players? Wiggins contract is worse than CP3 so it isn't even a salary dump.
That's just horrible.

27 Sep 2019 02:40:37
So OKC trades away Grant, Westbrook and George and only walk away with 3 firsts and some draft swaps that probably won't happen. LOL!

27 Sep 2019 20:15:07
That trade is by far the craziest I’ve seen yet no way in hell would okc give up all them picks

27 Sep 2019 21:55:20
Miami wants Paul. No way okc makes Miami better when they have two of Miami's first round picks. Okc wants Miami to be in the lottery.

26 Sep 2019 11:45:52
Heat - Thunder

Heat gets:
Paul

Thunder gets:
J.Johnson
Waiters
Leonard (expiring)
2025 1st rd pick (top 10 protected)

26 Sep 2019 12:41:50
OKC is not gettong a first for brittle Paul and his contract at this time.

27 Sep 2019 20:19:12
I like heat & thunder

Heat get paul & 2022 Clippers pick

Thunder get Goran Dragic Tyler Herro James Johnson

29 Sep 2019 02:47:09
I think that is acceptable

25 Sep 2019 17:30:17
Mavs get Dragic, Schroeder, Ferguson, Nader
***Love a three headed monster of Dragic, Doncic, Porzingis. Adding Schroder in a similar role to what he plays in okc would help the bench. Ferguson is a starting quality young asset. Nader is filler but all hustle.

Heat get Paul, Jackson, Brunson, 2020 Denver 1st via okc
***They want young players and pick(s) attached to Paul and this does that (albeit on the low end of both). Brunson could be a nice backup to Paul while Jackson provides good depth on the wings. This is all about getting Paul and a pick at the end of the day. I like the fit in Miami.

Okc gets Hardaway, Winslow, Lee, Waiters
***This gives okc depth on the wings and shorter/more workable contracts. This could be a sneaky playoff team in the West.

Shai, Winslow
Hardaway, Waiters, Diallo
Lee, Dre, Burton
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

24 Sep 2019 15:48:49
Heat - Thunder - Timberwolves

Heat gets:
Paul
Muscala (expiring)
2023 1st rd pick back (via Thunder)
2020 2nd rd pick (Thunder)

Thunder gets:
Wiggins
Dieng
J.Johnson
2021 1st rd pick (lottery protected) (Timberwolves)

Timberwolves gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Dragic (expiring)
Olynyk

24 Sep 2019 16:40:29
this is one of the few trades by a OKC fan that I can actually get behind. Especially if the Twolves pick turns into 2 second rounders if the pick doesn't convey because twolves have a fair amount of expiring deals before 2021 and could end up back in the lottery.

24 Sep 2019 19:05:23
If you are going to over pay someone I rather pay cp3 then wiggens. Wiggens is a poor man's Carmelo Anthony.

24 Sep 2019 20:06:51
There's probably a good argument between Wiggins and Paul, but I'd take Wiggins way over Paul. Paul seems like a bit of a locker room cancer (especially as his play deteriorates), he's much older, and he makes more.

Wiggins won't ever be a superstar, but if you can make him your third or fourth best player and get a strong personality to lead the team, I think he can become a pretty strong starter. I guess Butler was a strong personality, but he's not much of a leader.

24 Sep 2019 20:26:25
Shizzee must be the only Knick fan that I know who is down on Melo. LOL!

24 Sep 2019 13:54:40
Heat Mavs thunder and grizz


Heat gets Cris Paul and Josh Jackson

Mavs gets Dragic and Gallinari

Thunder gets Iguodala,Leonard and
Hardway jr. 1rd from heat

Grizz gets Lee, Waiters,Jackson and Okpala and 2rd from heat

24 Sep 2019 15:01:21
Lee+Justin < Jackson+Hardaway.

Lee, Jackson and Hardaway is not enough for Gallinari and Dragic. Dallas needs to add probably a first round pick.

Also, I don't think that Miami has to give up a first round pick to take on Chris Paul.

24 Sep 2019 09:50:42
OKC/SAS/POR

OKC get Derozan

SAS get Gallinari, Ferguson, Whiteside, Bazemore (exp), Little, MIA 1st round pick & POR 1st round pick

POR get Aldridge & Gay

24 Sep 2019 11:17:37
Why would OKC trade for Derozan?

 
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