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15 Oct 2019 23:41:50
OKC: G Hayward+ Langford

Boston: Gallinari+Bamba+Augustin

Orl:Schroder+1rnd pick Denver (top 20 protected)+ 1rnd pick Boston(top 20 protected)

15 Oct 2019 23:29:01
Hornets get Schroeder, Nader, Burton
***A backup for Rozier that could also provide a spark. I think Schroeder could also use a change of scenery with so many ball handlers in okc.

Grizz get MKG, Monk, 2020 Denver 1st
***They get another pick and a young asset. If MKG can play, great. If he stinks, cool. $13M expiring.

Thunder get Anderson, Crowder
***I'd like to see OKC see how far they could go in the West. Most of the top teams have reason to underachieve (ex Warriors have Klay hurt, KD gone, Russel to incorporate AND Rockets have to figure out how feed both Harden and Russ and no picks to trade to fill out the bench).

CP3, Graham, FA (Felton?)
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Crowder, Anderson, Roberson
Gallo, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

(Realistically the backup pg is SGA and graham the third)

15 Oct 2019 12:49:55
Pacers get Gallinari, Nader, Burton, Denver 2020 first
***Sabonis and Gallo could be a really nice tandem down low. Additionally, Gallo provides spacing needed for Oladipo as he comes back from injury. Playoff Push will be real as I see the Pacers as a team that could go deep in the East.

Thunder get Warren, McDermott, Sabonis
***Bring Sabonis back! He fits the timeline and team needs. Also, they get much needed wing help. And they don't really need the Denver pick.

15 Oct 2019 13:11:46
Bring Oladipo back too, stop living in the past. Move on.

15 Oct 2019 13:17:07
Why would it matter if sabonis and gallo would work?

15 Oct 2019 15:50:28
"Sabonis and Gallo would work great together! " as you trade one for the other.

15 Oct 2019 16:31:58
I meant turner and Gallo. Jeez.

15 Oct 2019 01:25:47
4 team trade
DALLAS-DETROIT-OKC-MEMPHIS

DALLAS GETS DRUMMOND and IGGUDOLA

DETROIT GETS ADAMS

OKC GETS HARDAWAY AND JACKSON

MEMPHIS GETS LEE

TRADE WORKS ON TRADE MACHINE

OKC GETS JACKSON AND TELLS HARDAWAY NOT TO REPORT AS THEY WILL TRADE HIM. HE WILL NOT BE A PART OF TEAM WHEN OPTION COMES UP WHICH MEANS THEY GET MUCH NEEDED CAP RELIEF.

DETROIT GETS ADAMS WHO WILL.BE BETTER NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER IN WESTBROOKS SHADOW AND COULD BE WILLING TO SIGN LONG TERM.

MEMPHIS GETS LESS EXPENSIVE LEE AND CAP RELIEF NEXT SEASON..

DALLAS GETS CENTER IN DRUMMOND AND IGGY TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP ALONG WITH 3PT SHOOTING...

15 Oct 2019 20:41:23
And what draft picks are Dallas giving up to make this happen?

14 Oct 2019 09:51:04
Atlanta: Drummond

Detroit:Vucevic+1rnd pick OKC 2022 (lottery protected from atlanta)

Orlando: C Parsons+ Reddish+ 1rnd pick Brooklyn 2020(lottery protected from Atlanta)

Atl:
C: Drummond
PF:Collins
SF:Hunter
SG:huerter
PG:Young

Drummond would be a beast surrounded by all those shooters and Atlanta would improve on the defensive end too.

14 Oct 2019 15:14:13
Drummond+Collins pairing would concern me a little. Also, not sure Drummond plays well at the pace ATL plays.

14 Oct 2019 09:34:58
Bucks - Clippers - Thunder

Bucks gets:
Paul

Clippers gets:
Bledsoe
Ilyasova (expiring)
Nader

Thunder gets:
Harkless (expiring)
Hill
McGruder
Robinson
2020 1st Clippers (Lottery protected)
2021 2nd Pacers (via Bucks)

14 Oct 2019 15:14:56
Clippers pass.

13 Oct 2019 12:01:35
Huge trades don't normally go down, but I wanted to see how this one would play out. Don't hate it for any of the teams.

Boston gets Knight, Nance, Sexton
***Knight is a gamble, but he's a big expiring deal. Opens things up to keep Brown next summer, or it allows Celtics to be a possible player in FA. Nance can fill the void they seem to be chasing at the 5. Sexton has potential and can be a great backup point.

Thunder get Thompson, Clarkson, Henson, Dellavadova
***All expiring players without giving up a pick to dump Paul. But I also like the fit at each position. Let's them chase a guy like Brown this summer or flip these at the deadline for a couple more assets.

Cavs get Paul, Hayward, Roberson, Williams, Ojeleye, Nader, Burton
***Love, Hayward, Paul all seemed to be labeled as available but almost untradeable. Why not put on one squad in the East? And honestly, they could be decent fits together. If health holds up, itd be interesting to see how they gel.

Paul, Garland, Burton
Roberson, Windler, Porter
Hayward, Osman, Nader
Love, Ojeleye
Zizic, Williams

Can fill out front court with vet minimums.

13 Oct 2019 13:44:27
Ur not getting out of cp3 contract that easily.

13 Oct 2019 14:29:24
Zizic is bad. No way can he start. Also, the Cavs giving up expirings and positive assets to get back two bad contracts without any compensation for them, probably isn’t the way that they should go.

12 Oct 2019 23:30:30
A lot of possible trade to discuss, basically I would like to keep THJ. He may fit great as a starting Guard that get open looks and focus on defense. But his contract gives volume to trade.

I think that one has a chance!

Miami: C.Paul, K.Love, Burton, Nadar, 1st back via OKC

Cavs: J.Jackson, 1st Miami, J.Johnson

Mavs: Adams, Waiters, Ferguson

OKC: THJ, Windler, Leonard, Dragic, Lee,

Miami: Try it by veterans CP3, Butler, Love and Adebayo, Winslow and Herro arround!

Cavs: Go joung and get J.Jackson and a 1st 2020 for Love

Mavs: Get a strong force in the middle for a 1st and change THJ by Waiters and Jackson by a 3&D Ferguson.

OKC: Go unter the luxury CAP and finalize their rebuild and free up a lot CAP next year move and get a scorer on the wing.

13 Oct 2019 14:32:39
I don’t think the Cavs would give up Windler in a deal like tins. They’re basically just trading a 1st from last year for a future first.

13 Oct 2019 19:57:26
If they keep Windler, they will have 16 players and need to move one away. Since y a basically right, you can take every other palyer instead of him.

13 Oct 2019 23:22:33
They just took him in the first round and he probably improved his stock in the summer league. I’d take him over a late future first any day.

12 Oct 2019 23:24:58
Celtics.get Adams, Lee, Nader

Mavs get Schroeder, Ojeleye, 2020 Milwaukee first via Boston

Okc gets Hayward, Williams III, Brunson

Paul, Brunson, FA
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Hayward, Roberson, Burton
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Noel, Williams, Patton

Third point could be Felton, Harris, Lin... or they pursue another trade. But realistically, Shai is the backup point with Brunson as the third pg. This deal cuts the salary to duck luxury with room to bring in one more guy even. They have lots of shooting and enough D. With all the talk about moving their vets for assets, I wonder how they'd fair with a deal like this: pushing for a playoff spot while retaining picks.

Celtics make tons of sense for Adams. He could make all their guys better. Not a terrible contract for all he does.

Mavs add a pick.... albeit a most likely late one. They do this for the sake of adding a scoring punch to their bench as they too chase a playoff spot in the west.

12 Oct 2019 19:47:53
TOR-CLE-OKC
Since everyone is doing Paul trades, I thought I'd do one too.
TOR:
-Thompson
-Henson
-Sexton
-OKC 2nd
CLE:
-Paul
-OKC 1st
OKC:
-Lowry

12 Oct 2019 23:12:36
Why do people think that the Cavs will be willing to take Paul? It makes less than 0 sense for the Cavs unless they’re getting 3 picks just to take him. That doesn’t include what they’d want for Sexton.

12 Oct 2019 18:26:27
OKC DET

OKC get Jackson (exp), Galloway (exp), Snell, 2020 lottery protected 1st

DET get Gallinari (exp), Schroder

DET Start Rose at PG and have Schroder come off the bench. Schroder has a better attitude about coming off the bench than Jackson. They are similar players and Schroder is a lil cheaper. They add Gallinari to give them another scorer to really help their offense and help their playoff chances. In the East Rose, Gallinari, Griffin, and Drummond should be enough to make the playoffs they barely missed the playoffs last year and they add Gallo and Rose which makes them better.

OKC adds another 1st which is the main reason they do this. They get back a couple of expiring contracts for Gallinari's expiring contract so they still open salary next year. Snell's contract goes past this year, but they get rid of Schroder who's contract also goes past this year. Jackson won't want to come off the bench but they make him for the rest of the season then let him walk in FA.

12 Oct 2019 19:21:18
No pick add Adam and Drummond.

12 Oct 2019 21:32:56
Im going to correct my self i said DET barely missed playoffs last year when they made the playoffs they got 8th seed.

12 Oct 2019 04:41:27
I also want to contribute an Adams trade. I didn't like any posted so far because everyone is sending OKC bad contracts and not enough value.

Clippers get Adams

OKC gets Harkless, Robinson, Zubac and the 2020 1st round Pick (Top 26 protected - if it doesn't convey OKC gets 2 2nd rounders)

Clippers get a massive upgrade at Center without losing much depth.

OKC gets young talent, cap relieve and a highly protected Pick.

Your thoughts?

12 Oct 2019 10:30:59
Ps, he’s a solid player, but he’s overpaid. He isn’t an elite shot blocker, he doesn’t spread the floor and he isn’t a high end offensive player. There aren’t many teams that need centers and there a re significantly cheaper options with only slightly less production. Then you have some bigs that are going to cost a little more, but are better that could shake loose like Griffin, Love and Aldridge. It’s going to be hard to a team that is willing to give up something like you’re suggesting. It’s not impossible, but it’s not like there will be a ton of bidders and there will be other options.

12 Oct 2019 13:42:52
Clippers may be wating for the buyout market to get a big. Say Whiteside if he is traded from Portland once Nurkic recovers.

Also curious if same package could pull Drummond if Detroit is not a playoff team.

12 Oct 2019 18:09:58
Or Gasol from Toronto.

13 Oct 2019 04:07:10
You're not getting Drummond for this. Gasol yes, because he's 34 and expiring. Clippers might want a Center for a longer time frame.

13 Oct 2019 21:23:46
Gasol has expirience playing with Kawhi.

12 Oct 2019 01:14:18
Bucks/OKC/Pistons Three Team Deals Trade Deadline February 8

Bucks Trade Eric Bledsoe Khris Middleton

Pistons Trade Andre Drummond Tony Snell 2023 first round pick (Top 10 protected)

OKC Trade Chris Paul

Bucks receive Chris Paul Andre Drummond

OKC receive Eric Bledsoe Tony Snell 2023 first round pick (Top 10 protected).via Pistons

Pistons receive Khris Middleton

11 Oct 2019 17:30:32
OKC/MIL/WAS

OKC get Wall, Mahinmi & Hachimura

MIL get Paul & 1st round pick OKC

WAS get Bledsoe, Gallinari & Hill

11 Oct 2019 21:46:26
I think Wall, Chris Paul, Kevin Love and even Wiggins trades are all doomed to fail.

All of them are bad deals, but none of these teams are win-now, and unlikely to include the picks it would take to get off their money.

12 Oct 2019 00:10:15
No way Thunder do that. They give up a 1st and Gallinari and have to take Wall. I know they get rid of Paul, but Walls contract is just as bad or worse than Paul's.

12 Oct 2019 03:01:28
Shrink: The only one I disagree with is Love. No matter what you think about him, he has value around the league, and Cleveland will get assets back for him when they inevitably trade him.

12 Oct 2019 13:48:10
Love has value, but he doesn’t have $30 mil/ yr worth of value.

Add on the risk with his injury history, his age, and especially the length of the deal (4 years, $120), and I don’t think his contract has positive value.

12 Oct 2019 15:05:04
Again, what you think and what every NBA insider/ writer says oppose each other. Every national writer I’ve seen thinks Cleveland will get positive value from trading him. Maybe he doesn’t deserve that kind of valuation, but that’s what is the case (until he gets hurt the first month of the season) .

11 Oct 2019 15:57:29
WAS OKC

WAS get Gallinari
OKC get Mahinmi and Hachimura

WAS gets a great offensive player to help Beal on offense. They are trying to get Beal to sign an extension so with this move they show they are serious about winning and building around him.

OKC take Mahinmis expirining contract to make money work, but the main reason they do this trade is for Hachimura. Hachimura would add to their pool of young talented players.

11 Oct 2019 16:44:19
Hachimura feels like to much for Gallo. I think you’d be looking at a lottery protected 1st, if there isn’t bad money involved.

11 Oct 2019 14:33:58
Boston gets Adams, Schroeder, Denver 2020 first, Miami 2021 first

Spurs get Paul and Brown

Okc gets Hayward, Derozan, Mills

11 Oct 2019 15:29:38
Why should the Spurs do that? Paul has negative value and Brown almost none because he wants a max.
OKC might not do it because Hayward has the same value than Paul (maybe even less) . But DeRozan and Mills won't make them better than Adams, Paul and Schröder. So why giving up Picks? Boston does this in a heartbeat.

11 Oct 2019 16:45:31
I doubt Paul + Brown gets you Derozen. Let alone Derozen + Mills.

12 Oct 2019 02:24:15
Fredman, Mills may be a negative asset. He’s a mediocre back up pg making 10 million and signed for 3 more years.

12 Oct 2019 13:48:01
If you say so. He looked pretty good during the World Championship and can shoot. Every team values shooting. Much rather have Mills than Schroeder.

11 Oct 2019 13:59:41
Celtics - Thunder

Celtics gets:
Adams
Schroeder
2020 1st (the worst of Thunder, Nuggets and Celtics)
2020 2nd rd pick (Thunder)
2021 2nd rd pick (Thunder)

Thunder gets:
Hayward
Williams
2020 1st (Grizzlies via Celtics)
2020 1st (the two most favorable of Thunder, Nuggets and Celtics)

11 Oct 2019 15:33:11
Hayward is trash until he proves everyone wrong. You need at least 2 1st rounders to unload him. Adams has some value so you need more than Williams here. Schröder has close to no value. He's a little overpaid, but still is one of the best backup PGs.

So maybe Hayward, Williams and 3 1st rounders (or 2 1st rounders and 2nd rounders) for Adams and Schröder.

11 Oct 2019 22:09:05
I kind of like this deal. I agree that Hayward is negative value, but since OKC is not a free agent destination, I don’t mind the gamble if the compensation is right. Where is Adams going to take OKC, anyway? Schröeder is decidedly a negative contract.

Here, OKC gets the better of the BOS and DEN picks, which is not much, but nice to move up. The two Thunder seconds have a little value in the 35-40 range, but they are still just second rounders, and could be omitted.

The jewel of this trade is the MEM pick, which is Top 6 protected this year, and fully unprotected in 2021. OKC has to love that one.

For BOS, I can see how this trade does some good, and I’m not against them using it. Exchanging Hayward for Adams certainly removes risk, as they still try to contend, and his screens would help. But is Steven Adams the player you use up the MEM pick on?

11 Oct 2019 23:43:41
To your question Shrink, my answer is a strong no. That pick is for a star. Anything else is a mistake. Boston just doesn’t get any better with this trade.

It’s just like the plethora of Blazer trades involving expiring deals and picks. If it’s not for a star, what’s the point? Both Boston and Portland are in very similar situations. They can’t swap around role players. They’re both a star from true contention. Don’t waste assets.

12 Oct 2019 04:20:49
That's stupid for OKC.
They just get the Grizzlies Pick and! maybe! a upgrade of a few spots because they can choose between the Celtics pick or the Nuggets pick (which has protection! ) while getting a 66 million contract and sending out Adams and 2 2nd rounders.

And who says the Memphis Pick is for sure in the top 10? I can remember everyone saying the same about the Kings pick from Boston the last 3 years.

Why not waiting until next offseason or the trade deadline. There are a lot of contenders looking for upgrades at Center (Lakers, Clippers, Nets, . ) . And why not looking for cap flexibility instead of taking on Hayward? Memphis did well with that.

12 Oct 2019 11:58:23
The Celtics are not trading Hayward, especially if they think he has negative trade value. They will let it ride with him. He has only this year and next. After this season he will have an expiring contract and will have more value than a player like Wall who really won't have played for 2 seasons.

11 Oct 2019 11:37:17
SAC - POR

SAC receives: Whiteside, Little

POR receives: Dedmon, Ariza, multiple 2nd's

Has to wait until players signed this offseason can be traded - but POR will have a transition at Center late in the season anyway, with Nurkic coming back. Ariza would help their weakness at SF this season (basically on a 1 yr deal) and Dedmon is solid + more willing to accept a backup role than Whiteside (expiring). SAC gets a chance to see if Whiteside would work there and gets a good fit in Little. SAC has a lot of 2nd rounders to spare.

SAC - OKC

SAC receives: Adams, Ferguson
OKC receives: Bogdanovic, Dedmon, Swanigan (waived)

Once OKC figures out how to dump CP3, SGA + Bogdanovic would make a great backcourt combination. Even if Bogdanovic is not quite young enough, a starting opportunity should increase his value as an asset. OKC gets under tax line. SAC improves their starting lineup, and Ferguson is interesting too. Both are on two year contracts, like a lot of SAC's non-core players. Adams would set monster screens for Fox, and I think Bagley will improve his shooting enough so that spacing will not be a big issue.

I think going into the season with Dedmon / Giles / Holmes is still a great scenario - I just think they are in a good position to pivot and react at the Center position as the season goes on. I love having Bogdanovic as a sixth man, but he deserves more minutes at SG. Paying him the contract $ he will demand next offseason looks a little different if he is a SF half the time, not being fully utilized to his strengths as a playmaker. If he would accept a 4yr/$52m extension (most the Kings can offer as an extension), the Kings should do it.

11 Oct 2019 12:04:48
Dedmon was brought into Sacramento to be a stretch 5 in order to open up the lane for Fox and Bagley. Neither Whiteside nor Adams currently have that ability. Additionally, Dedmond can run with the Kings new up tempo offense, that Adams can't do and Whiteside does less than Dedmond does. So basically, the Kings would not be interested in these trades as they are constructed.

I also get the Bogdanovich dilemna. I just think there will be better options latter in the year when the injury bug bites some teams.

11 Oct 2019 12:48:05
The Portland trade was more about Little + Whiteside's expiring contract.

With Adams, the fit isn't perfect, but it seems like a safe option. Better options might come up, but I have a hard time seeing it backfire. He just seems like such a professional, similar to Barnes.

11 Oct 2019 16:53:17
Adams is a just a poor fit for what Sacramento is doing. I like what he would bring on the defensive end of the court, but he takes away too much from the offensive end to really justify the move. Especially if I have to give up Bogdan as well.

11 Oct 2019 03:52:42
heat mavs thunder

thunder send cris paul and robertson to heat

Heat send dragic and waiters to Mavs

thunder recive Lee and Hardaway jr. from Mavs and 2rd 2021, and J. johnson and Olynyk form heat and 2rd 2020

Paul goes to miami and mavs get a point guard Ok get good players 2 2rd and ending contracts

what do you thinking guys?

11 Oct 2019 08:15:49
Since OKC want to reduce CAP and started to rebuild send Dragic (exp. ) to OKC and Adams to Dallas, on PG they have Wright/ Brunson! Voila - of mine.

11 Oct 2019 12:07:55
Miami has repeatedly said thst they want their first rounders back from OKC to take on Paul's bad contract and tendency to be injured.

11 Oct 2019 13:33:32
At this point unless we can do like Paul for Wall and multiple firsts, I’d rather at a spat and see what we can find closer to December or the deadline.

11 Oct 2019 16:55:42
You are not getting multiple first in a Paul-Wall swap, unless Wall's rehab goes south in a hurry.

11 Oct 2019 22:11:41
And even if his rehab fails, he’s still insured. His cap hit might hurt the team, but the owners of a non-contending micro-market like OKC could use the cash, especially after their foray into the lux recently.

10 Oct 2019 02:35:27
Cavs get Paul, Nader, Burton
***Unmentioned Paul destination that I think makes sense. Pair him with Love in a weak East and maybe they add another piece with their expiring deals. Doesn't cost any picks.

Mavs get Thompson, Knight
***They get a couple role players who are also expiring contracts.

Thunder get Hardaway, Lee, Sexton
***Add an asset and depth on the wings. No more long term money tied up in Paul. Gives them another guy to build around.

Sexton, Schroeder
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Hardaway, Lee, Roberson
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

10 Oct 2019 08:22:01
I like K Love and CP3 in the same team, but i don't see this happen with the cavs.

And the cavs shouldn't give up a young piece for an aging pointguard.

10 Oct 2019 09:11:38
Sexton has positive value. Paul has negative value. Also, if they don’t finish bottom 10, they lose their pick. So this could cost them a pick and they still might not make the playoffs.

 
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