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15 Jul 2019 06:42:01
John Wall for Chris Paul who says no?

For Washington they can make an strong playoff push around a back court of Beal and CP3. Paul's contract is shorter and is capable of playing 80% of a season.

For OKC they take a swing at a higher potential PG who when healthy was a top 5 PG in the league (2 years ago).

What are your thoughts?

14 Jul 2019 21:54:40
Houstons wants a first for Capela, Memphis a first for Iguodala. Not so much offer may come. But Dallas may offer a future 1st for Capela and has the CAP to sign him:

Memphis:
- Broekhoff
- 1st (via Dallas)

Houston:
- Iguodala

Dallas:
- Capela

Houston can go for Noah and resign Faried. Memphis get a pick and Mavs can close out their roster still having a big exception if they asked again to facilitate a Miami trade and to clear cap for OKC like Paul for Dragic and Leonard + Jones Jr. to Mavs.

15 Jul 2019 02:05:02
You may want to review your cap numbers. Once Dallas completes their agreements with Boban and Seth Curry, the Mavs will be over the salary cap and only have $11 mil left on their trade exception whoch is not enough for Capella's nearly $15 mil salary. Going to have to send someone like Jackson or Finney-Smith to get the numbers right.

14 Jul 2019 21:46:47
OKC-MIN-IND

OKC gets Teague, Culver, Dieng, McDermott

IND gets Wiggins

MIN gets Turner, CP3


CP3
Okogie
Covington
Turner
Towns


Teague/ Schroeder
Shai/ Culver
Covington/ McDermott
Gallo/ Patterson
Noel/ Dieng


Brogdon/ Holiday
Oladipo/ McConell
Wiggins/ Lamb
Warren/ Bitadze
Sabonis/ Leaf.

15 Jul 2019 00:14:02
So Indiana has to take on Wiggins, but gets nothing for that and gives up Turner?

15 Jul 2019 00:30:38
Really bad for Minnesota. Yeah, they get off Wiggins, but take on an equally bad contact in CP3 while also giving up Culver.

OKC isn't getting positive assets for Paul.

15 Jul 2019 02:07:44
Okc nets Culver as part of Chris Paul trade? Minny does better just holding onto Wiggins.

14 Jul 2019 21:17:20
Thunder and Utah Trade


Paul and a 1st Round Pick to Utah for Conley.

14 Jul 2019 21:47:33
Right now, Conley is better than Paul.

And by all accounts, is a better teammate as well.

14 Jul 2019 23:07:18
Keep Conley. Younger and cheaper.

14 Jul 2019 23:24:59
Lol lol lol.

14 Jul 2019 14:42:36
Thunder get Hayward, Milwaukee 2020 1st (Boston)

Boston gets Lee, Hardaway Jr., 2020 Chicago 2nd (Okc)

Dallas gets Paul

Thunder shave salary to get under luxury. Hayward can still play but fits this team better than Paul.

Boston gets a two for one on wings. Lee is expiring which will help with future payroll.

Paul could be a great mentor for Doncic in Dallas. He's a veteran presence that could do them good and push them into playoffs.

14 Jul 2019 15:03:11
Why would Boston want more wings?

14 Jul 2019 16:32:27
It’s not so much about the positional fit honestly. Hayward eats into the payroll quite a bit. At season’s end, they need to pay Jaylen Brown and plan towards paying Tatum. Hardaway can provide a similar scoring touch the next two seasons and then opens cap for Tatum. Lee can be a three and D guy this year and open up some cash for Brown next summer. With Kemba on board, they need to plan carefully. Horford was a bit of a sacrifice already.

14 Jul 2019 16:33:40
Okc turns a disgruntled Russ who’d be crippling to the cap in a few years into Hayward, three 1sts, 2 swaps. Wow!

14 Jul 2019 18:07:48
Paul has the 3rd worse contract in the league. No one is giving assets up for him. Best case scenario, you can trade him for some smaller bad contracts.

14 Jul 2019 01:24:24
Atl: B Simmons

Philly:Sexton+Hunter+ 1rnd pick Atlanta 2020+1rnd pick Brooklyn (top 12 protected)+1rnd pick OKC 2022 (top 20 protected)

Atl:
C: Collins/Len
PF:B Simmons/Fernando
SF:J Parker/S Hill
SG:Huerter/Crabbe
PG:T Young/E Turner

14 Jul 2019 14:27:54
Where does Sexton come into play here he plays for CLE not ATL.

14 Jul 2019 20:09:06
I am trying to figure out how Simmons became worth 2 lottery pick talents + 3 future first rounders.

14 Jul 2019 00:23:57
OKC-DAL-CHI


CHI gets CP3 and Diallo
Sign Holiday

OKC gets Porter, Lee, Kriss Dunn, CHI 2nd rd pick 2020

DAL gets Schroeder


CP3/ White
Lavine/ Diallo
Holiday/ Hutchinson
Lauri/ Young
Carter/ Felicio

Shai/ Dunn
Roberson/ Lee
Porter/ Ferguson
Gallo/ Patterson
Adams/ Noel

Schroeder
THJ
Luka
Powell
KP.

13 Jul 2019 16:24:15
Wolves - Gallo and Patterson
Thunder - Wiggins, Bates-Diop plus 1st & 2nd

Teague
Culver
Covington
Gallo
Towns

13 Jul 2019 17:58:30
Rather keep wighins. First and second for injury prone guy.

14 Jul 2019 03:50:06
Realistic trade for Wiggins.

13 Jul 2019 16:06:44
Would Dallas be interested in this?

Dallas get Paul, 2020 Chicago 2nd

Okc gets Hardaway, Lee, Brunson

I like it for okc. I could see it being a nice move for Dallas as well.

13 Jul 2019 16:30:10
Absolutely Dallas would be for this, but doesn't mean it's a good move. Dallas is always looking for a quick fix, which is why before doncic, they hadn't had any young talent in over 15 years. This could set dallas back 10 years if it fails, but I still see Cuban jumping on it for the chance to contend.

13 Jul 2019 18:41:43
I like this trade. Paul would make porzingis much better and they get an asset for the future.

13 Jul 2019 20:30:35
Taking the ball out of Doncic's hands. what could go wrong?

13 Jul 2019 22:05:15
Fredman who creates when luka rests?

13 Jul 2019 23:10:59
So Paul coming off the bench?

You are running into the same issue that existed in Houston. Team runs better with the ball in Harden (Doncic) hands but Paul will want touches. Paul, much like Anthony, has to learn they need to take a step back. Just not convinved that Paul is ready to accept a lesser role.

13 Jul 2019 14:57:05
OKC WAS
OKC Wall and as many 1st round picks as presti can get.
WAS Paul

If Presti wants to add more 1sts how many 1sts do you think he could get out of WAS for a Paul Wall swap? Walls contract is worse its a year longer and when he does play again it will be after a bad injury so who knows how good he will be when he returns. Wiz compete to make playoffs with Paul and Beal while OKC tanks with Wall on the bench. or try to move him again which would be difficult.

13 Jul 2019 10:50:24
okc fire sale

okc : N Batum,B Biyombo, 1 first round pick

Hornets: C Paul,P Patterson.

Okc save money for next years and take a pick. hornets fans can watch some good players.

Okc: T Hardaway jr, 1 first round pick or 2 second round

Dallas : D Gallinari


Okc: H whiteside , J Nurkic,1 first round pick
Por: S Adams, D Schroder

I don't like whiteside and I don't know how Nurkic will come back. Adams can be very good in portland system.

13 Jul 2019 10:24:51
Thunder get Jackson, Winslow, Olynyk, 2022 Detroit 1st
***Buyout Jackson. Last time he played in okc, it didn't end well. Putting him back on the market would be mutually Beneficial. Saves the necessary tax dollars plus extra. Reggie could be a good pickup for a contender. Winslow and Olynyk are fine for this rebuild. The pick seals it.

Detroit gets Dragic, 2020 Chicago 2nd via okc
***Big upgrade at point. No future extra money as Dragic is also expiring. Could also play next to Rose. Going for it in the East. Little shakeup.

Miami gets Paul, 2020 Detroit 1st
***Rumored for Paul, and they add a first. Gives them an upgrade at point if He stays healthy.

Thoughts?

13 Jul 2019 14:43:52
So Detroit is giving up 2 first rounders for. Dragic? Come on, really?

13 Jul 2019 15:16:52
Jackson and TWO 1st rod picks for Dragic and a second rounder? Think Detroit is getting screwed here. Hard pass from Pistons.

14 Jul 2019 03:54:14
Detroit won’t give up firsts for Dragic. Maybe a second.

13 Jul 2019 02:50:17
The Whole Beal/Wall to Combo in trade got me thinking if the Cavs want go for it all.

First trade Cavs Wizards

Cavs receive
Wall
Beal

Wizards receive
Thompson(exp)
Henson(exp)
Clarkson(exp)
Nance Jr
Cavs 2023 first round pick

Second Trade

Cavs OKC

Cavs receive
Paul

OKC receives
Smith
Knight
Dellavedova
2022 second round pick

Cavs line up after trade (4 spots to fill)

PG Paul, Garland (Wall)
SG Beal, Sexton (Wanamaker 1yr min)
SF Osman, Porter Jr, Windler
PF Love (Faried 1yr 4mil)
C Zizic (Koufus 1yr Min) (Pachulia 1yr min)

Cavs take a chance and pick up 3 stars. Wall will give four stars and no better players for the young rooks to learn from. Free agents could be a lot better. Couldn't remember many left off the top of my head.

13 Jul 2019 16:34:19
In what world would a team be able to afford love, beal, paul, and wall?

13 Jul 2019 18:05:29
In a same world that a team is able to have Curry Russell Thompson and Green.

13 Jul 2019 02:45:25
Gsw, Philly, OKC AND Minny

Gsw gets harris

Philly gets CP3

Minny gets D Lo

Okc gets wiggins

Throw some picks around.

13 Jul 2019 06:04:03
Pass from Philly.

13 Jul 2019 09:17:49
Gs and Phi would rather do Harris for Russell straightup.

13 Jul 2019 15:19:22
An old cp3 on a horrible contract for Harris? Sixers say no thanks. Just doesn't make any sense.

13 Jul 2019 00:55:08
Wizards get Paul
Thunder get Wall, 2020 first, 2022 first

Wizards can compete for playoffs, and Beal would benefit from a mentor like Paul.

Thunder don't need Wall on the court, who can take his sweet time returning from injury. The firsts could be middling, or they could be superb if Beal gets antsy and wants out.

Then when Wall returns from injury and plays a few games either at the end of this season or beginning of next.

Wall to the Suns for Rubio and Saric.

13 Jul 2019 00:30:37
Orl-OKC
OKC:Fournier
Orl: Schroder

OKC-Spurs:
Spurs: Robertson+ferguson+Patterson+ 1rnd pick Heat 2023 (protected)
OKC: Aldridge

OKC:
C:Adams
PF:LM Aldridge
SF:Gallinari
SG:Fournier
PG: CP3
Sixth: SGA

13 Jul 2019 00:27:11
OKC BOS

OKC Hayward, 2020 MEM 1st, 2024 BOS 1st
BOS Adams, 1 or 2 future 2nds.

OKC have trade exceptions from Melo, George, and Grant so they use one of those and take Hayward so they can add 2 1sts to their collection of picks. This does add more money to their luxury tax bill, but they still have Paul, Gallo, Schroder, Roberson that they can move to get under the luxury tax.

BOS gets out of Hayward contract and save money this year while doing it. They get Adams which will solidify their bigman depth and would be a good fit for their starting 5. They swap 2 1sts for 1 or 2 2nds to make Thunder willing to take Hayward.

13 Jul 2019 04:09:16
Too much for Adams.

12 Jul 2019 22:24:44
Heat - CP3 and Roberson (exp)
Thunder - Johnson Waiters Dragic(exp) and 2nds

- Heat get CP3 to pair w Butler
- Thunder can flip Dragic for more picks and Johnson/Waiters next year when they are on expiring deals. Also picks up extra 2nds

Cp3
Butler
Roberson
Winslow
Bam

12 Jul 2019 18:29:58
Is it safe to say OKC is having a fire sale? If so, Gallinari, Schroder, Adams, and CP must go... .not to mention, in ideal landing spots for them as long as a pick is obtainable..

OKC receive a pick and C. Parson
Atl receive Adams

Young
Reddish
Hunter
Collins
Adams

That looks like a wrecking squad in 2-3 years. Parsons may even agree to a buyout. And if not, he comes off the books after the year.

Bulls receive Schroder
OKC receive Felicio and Dunn

No picks but quality back up and potential starter in Felicio.

Blazers receive Gallinari
OKC receive Bazemore and a 1st.

Blazers need a stretch 4 to open the floor for Whiteside/Nurkic and take some of the scoring load at times

As for CP3, there are no contenders in need of a point guard. Best situation:

Magic receive: CP3, pick
OKC receive: Fournier, Bamba, Fultz

Magic get a wonderful facilitator with complementary pieces....

Not to mention, OKC reset financially with some building blocks in Bamba, Felicio, and SGA with Fultz being a ?....

12 Jul 2019 21:36:08
Presti wins gm of the year if he trades russ and cp3 in same month. Lol.

12 Jul 2019 17:06:32
Wizards get CP3

OKC get Wall, 2022 and 2024 unprotected 1st rounders

HEAT Moves
Sign Dwight and Trey Burke

HEAT : Beal,Covington, Bonga,

Wizards : Wiggins, Olynyk,Teague, Okogie, 2021 Wolves Pick and 2023 Heat Pick

Wolves : Dragic, Leonard, Waiters, Brown Jr

Winslow/Burke/Bonga
Beal/Herro/Robinson
Butler/Jones Jr/Okpala
Covington/Johnson/Maten
Adebayo/Howard/Haslem

12 Jul 2019 17:53:22
We get it. 3 teams get get screwed and the Heat get Beal. Get real. The Heat don’t have the assets unless they’re getting Wall and even then, the Wiz likely pass.

12 Jul 2019 20:12:27
Ah, Heat already traded their 2023 1st round pick.

Try to keep up.

12 Jul 2019 22:11:22
And because of the protections on the 2023 pick, Miami can only trade the "protected" portion of that pick to OKC.

 
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