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15 Jul 2019 15:43:46
Pacers: Anunoby

Raptors: Leaf, Mcdermott, 2 2nds.

14 Jul 2019 07:00:10
3 team trade
C.Paul and S. Ibaka to Spurs

Mills, Bellineli(prob. waive),Anunoby, a filler from Spurs and 2 1st picks from SA and Tor

DeRozan and Poeltl to Raptors

14 Jul 2019 15:27:42
Wait, you think Chris Paul will get OKC a talented young player in OG AND 2 1st round picks (on 4, your wording isn't clear) .

OKC will be lucky to get matching money on shorter deals.

13 Jul 2019 21:34:50
raptors trade lowry to philly.

raptors get Simmons have Simmons Sf/pg with siakim and freddy.

philly has a true pg in lowry and that extra push for a championship.

raptors start going younger with Simmons and siakim and freddy

13 Jul 2019 23:03:54
Salarirs are not even close to matching for 2 teams over the salary cap.

13 Jul 2019 23:08:33
Im from philly and that's the most stupid trade ever.

12 Jul 2019 01:34:44
Was: Van Vleet+Powell+M Gasol+ Ibaka+ 1rnd pick Tor2020 and 2022 (lottery protected)

Tor:Beal+J Wall

13 Jul 2019 21:35:45
why. raptors lose all of the championship team minus siakim and walls Injuried.

11 Jul 2019 13:48:14
here's a trade that will help both team. mostly raptors.

Raptors trade Ibaka and Powell.

to boston for hayward and first round pick.


Raptors get a scoring wing

boston gets a starting center and a defensive wing in Powell.

10 Jul 2019 20:04:07
If Raptors year it down at midseason

Twolves - Ibaka(exp)
Raptors - Wiggins 2020 1st and future 2nds

Magic - Lowry (exp)
Raptors - Fultz Aminu and Fournier

Celtics - Gasol (exp) and McCaw
Raptors - Hayward and both 2020 1sts (Bos and Mem)

FVF/Wiggins/Hayward/Boucher/Siakam
Fultz/Fournier/Johnson/OG/FA

Teague/Culver/Covington/Ibaka/Towns

Lowry/Ross/Aminu/Gordon/Vucevic

Kemba/Smart/Brown/Tatum/Gasol

10 Jul 2019 21:50:29
How is Aminu traded and in magic starting 5?

10 Jul 2019 23:44:13
Meant to put Isaac in the lineup not Aminu.

11 Jul 2019 10:07:21
The Memphis pick is off the table in any tradee offer, unless it's for a Superstar, which of course can't happen.

11 Jul 2019 12:34:05
Why would Toronto want Wiggins deal if they tear it down? Raps primed for major cap space next year, would want lesser quality players on expiring deals, decent prospects and picks if they are moving guys like Lowry.

13 Jul 2019 21:38:17
love the idea of having Wiggins for Ibaka.

if they do a straight swap Raptors would be a better team. not championship but playoff team with potential. then next year use siakim and Wiggins as there core with freddy and og.

09 Jul 2019 14:19:04
since Kawhi is gone Raptors should trade Ibaka and OG.

to the Twolves for Wiggins and a first round pick.

rebuild with younger players and. bring home a canadian player.

with wiggins and the roster they have they would still be a good team and playoff team with a chance if all healthy.

09 Jul 2019 15:42:31
I'd rather have OG and his cheap rookie deal than Wiggins and a first by quite a bit.

11 Jul 2019 13:46:16
yah but wiggins is a much better player to build around and Raptors have all there picks and will have 65 plus million next season for free agents. if they fire sell this Feb they might have more picks and possible be a lottery team if they trade before the season. Wiggins siakim and freddy would be a good start.

08 Jul 2019 15:19:29
Nuggets send: Michael Porter Jr., Malik Beasley, Paul Millsap, and the Nugget’s 2020 and 2022 unprotected first round pick.

Raptors send: Pascal Siakam, and Kyle Lowry.

The Nuggets cash in on their young prospects with upside to address their biggest need, they get a 4 who can guard big wings and is extremely switchable on the perimeter. He also compliments Jokic really well as a lean springier guy who can help block shots. He’s young, cheap, and the type of player who may be the most valuable in the NBA. They also get Kyle Lowry as a guy who brings experience, and all the skills that let him thrive in an offball situation, defense, shooting and passing, plus he’s an expiring so if it doesn’t work out he’s gone and you don't have to worry about some age stuff. This create a pretty sexy small-ish line up of
1. Lowry
2. Jamal Murray
3. Gary Harris
4. Pascal Siakam
5. Jokic
That matches up a lot better with a modern team like the Clippers imo.

The Raptors do a true blow up following Kawai’s departure. Why you cash in on Pascal now is 2 fold:
1. Him not being a lead scoring threat means that he’s not really a guy go center a rebuild around but Pascal and the rest of the team probably are too good to get that scorer in the draft.
2. If this is a true long term rebuild, Siakam is already 25, which while it isn’t young, if this is a 4 year rebuild Siakam will substantially lose his value by the time the window comes back open. Instead you get the crazy high upside of two 20 years olds in MPJ (who needs to be on ball and probably needs a year of learning on ball and sucking) and Beasley who’s incredibly young and athletic enough where he could become more than a 3&D guy. The Raptors are going to suck w/ o Lowry, Pascal, and Kawai, and the Raps get an extra first next year which probably won’t be worth very much but they also get an unprotected pick in the vaunted double draft of 2022, which is an amazing asset. Moving forward there is a real chance the Raptors would be set on the wing at
2. Beasley
3. OG
4. Porter jr.

And the mission in the draft with their own picks and the Raptors picks is to find a young PG and C.

08 Jul 2019 16:21:46
Denver just traded their 2020 pick to OKC for J. Grant. Moves Gallinari into the starting 4 spot.

08 Jul 2019 16:37:36
@Fredman In my defense I posted this before that went public. I’ll count this as a win, clearly Denver agreed about the kind of guy they needed in the 4 spot since Grant and Pascal are the same “type” of player.

08 Jul 2019 17:44:29
Grant is not pascal of offense or playmaking.

08 Jul 2019 18:49:29
They got the same "type" for much less of a price paid. That in itself is a win.

09 Jul 2019 02:58:47
Can’t Grant play the 3? He is 6’9” and 220.if he can guard four positions then he can play the 3 with Milsap. am I missing something there?

09 Jul 2019 14:21:33
terrible trade for Raptors if they aren't willing to trade siakim for PG13 then won't trade him for this.

09 Jul 2019 23:36:36
@Shiller well yeah, hence the price difference but they are both weakside shot blockers who are mobile enough to hang outside.

07 Jul 2019 21:48:28
Tor: J Wall+ 1rnd pick Was+ 1rnd pick Spurs+ 2rnd pick Was

Spurs: K Lowry

Was: Ibaka+Bellineli

08 Jul 2019 00:17:32
Why for raps?

09 Jul 2019 14:22:35
Wall would never stay and he's hurt this is a terrible trade.

07 Jul 2019 15:20:16
TOR - OKC - PHX - WSH

TOR sends Lowry to PHX, Ibaka, Miller and 2021 1st to WSH.
TOR gets Westbrook, Beal, Korver

OKC sends Westbrook to TOR, Diallo and LAC 2020 and 2022 1st to WSH.
OKC gets Johnson, Bridges and Okobo

WSH sends Beal to TOR
WSH gets Ibaka, Miller, Saric and Diallo, TOR 2021 1st, LAC 2020 and 2022 1st, PHX 2020 1st

PHX sends Korver to TOR, Saric and 2020 1st to WSH, Johnson, Bridges and Okobo to OKC.
PHX gets Lowry

Toronto rebuilds on the fly, Washington clears cap and gets bounty of picks, Phoenix gets the point guard they need and OKC gets out of tax hell

07 Jul 2019 15:44:09
OKC and Phoenix are getting stolen from. The raptors are doing the stealing.

07 Jul 2019 22:03:27
Taking westbrook makes them the loser.

09 Jul 2019 14:25:09
TO is not trading lowry this season unless he wants to go. mid season trade for a playoff team if Raptors don't add extras for a push in the playoff run.

06 Jul 2019 20:18:00
MIN-TOR-WAS

MIN gets Ibaka, CJ Miles, OG, 2020 2nd rd pick via TOR,

WAS gets Lowry, Powell, 1st rd pick via TOR 2020
Sign RHJ 3yr/ 30 mil

TOR gets Beal, Wiggins
Sign Oubre 4yr 60 mil
Sign Trey Burke


Teague
Covington/ OG
Okogie/ CJ Miles
Ibaka/ Dieng
Towns

Lowry
Thomas Brown Jr
Rui/ Powell
RHJ
Robinson


FVF/ Burke
Beal/ McCaw
Wiggins/ Oubre
Siakam/ Marcus Morris
Gasol.

06 Jul 2019 21:55:53
The wizards aren’t doing that.

04 Jul 2019 13:06:20
Since Grizzlies want to trade Iguodala and he would fit in Dallas but also in Houston, the Mavs should hurry up, because I think Kawhi will resign 3y max with and ETO in Toronto and hence Green will stay. Ergo Lakers will go elsewhere after the Kawhi decision:

Grizzlies:
- Jackson, 2nd Mavs
- Burke (Sign)

Rockets:
- Iguodala, 1st Mavs
- Cousins (Sign)

Mavs:
- Capela
- Wright (Sign)
- C.J.Miles (if Grizz want)


Rockets improve, Grizzlies create CAP and a wing, Mavs get the defending PG and C and go from there.


Valanciunas
Jackson, Crowder
Jackson
Jackson
Morant, Burke

:)

Cousins, Faried
Tucker
Iguodala
Harden, Gordon
CP3

Capela, Powell
Porzee, Maxi
Finney/Roby, Hardaway
Doncic, Curry
Wright, Brunson

02 Jul 2019 22:35:39
Kawhi!

If he would have a clear idea he would have agreed already.

Lakers may be a dream, but their he is a guy that play with LeBron and AD. He has other stars but is only one of them.

At Clippers he would be the star, like on Toronto, but not another star and would he be able to win again?

Mavs have MagicLuca and Porzee and a large supporting casts. So he would have potential 3 starts but he would be the GoToGuy, Kawhi`s Mavericks! And Cuban could provide him a learjet so he can live in LA with 50min to workplace. : )

Since Green would probably get a lot of money at Lakers in this case, Mavs could force a S&T with Toronto to provide cheep players for a year.

Raptors:
- Jackson, Lee, 1st
Mavs:
- S&T Kawhi 5y 190m

xxx = Kawhi !

03 Jul 2019 01:27:18
Claw is not going to the Mavs, period.

03 Jul 2019 01:28:27
I'm not sure what's worse, your trades, or your grammar? Both make everyone say wtf?

03 Jul 2019 03:13:06
Kind of curious if there is descension in Kawhi's camp. Kawhi wants to stay in Toronto while his uncle is still trying to convince him to go to LA?

03 Jul 2019 13:51:51
When did the Mavs get in the mix? Did I miss something?

01 Jul 2019 22:35:17
Warriers and Lakers moves to come?

Will Kawhi go to Lakers? I am not convinced, to be a second fidle beside LeBron? Or to team up at Clippers, to win Nothing? At Mavs he could sign and maybe win rings but it is in the outlaw of Texas. : ) So he may stay in Toronto and try a repeat.


Hence I expect an LA GS trade:
- Lakers: Russell
- Warriers: Kuzma, 1st and 25m exception to sign Cousins.

Kuzma may take the role of KD and go to SF. With the inactive Player exception the could take Lee for a year from Mavs.

Cousins
Green
Kuzma
Thompson(Lee)
Curry

That Team could try to go for another Championship.

01 Jul 2019 22:55:36
What’s the Lakers motivation to do this? Kuzma is on a cheaper deal, no?

01 Jul 2019 23:05:57
Russell can't be traded until December 15th. I assume Cousins doesn't want to wait that long. Nor do the Lakers want to wait that long to use their cap space.

01 Jul 2019 23:21:33
No chance Kawhi goes to Mavs.

01 Jul 2019 23:36:42
Lakers still have a first round pick to trade after the Davis Deal and the Stepien Rule?

02 Jul 2019 10:09:43
I think they have 1 and possibly 2 tradable picks, but I could be wrong with all the weird protections.

30 Jun 2019 09:54:55
Toronto if Kawhi leaves

Key veteran for bad contracts and young talents

Sign and trade Kawhi to Clippers for Gallinari and Landry Shamet

Marc Gasol to Boston for Gordon Hayward and Romeo Langford

Kyle Lowry to Indiana for Doug Mcdermott and Goga Bidatze

30 Jun 2019 16:22:17
Toronto isn't blowing it up. Even if Kawhi leaves, I think Toronto is going to have a honeymoon season where they keep all of their returning players and "try" to defend their title.

Trading players like Lowry and Gasol I think would just put a bitter taste in the Toronto fan's mouths and I don't think Toronto would get enough in return.

They should at least wait until the deadline.

30 Jun 2019 17:04:56
Clippers will never do that. S/ T Gallo only or sign Kawhi outright. Sham 2nd team All Rookie 2nd best 3 point shooting ever by a rookie. If the worst had to happen to dump Gallo for 2nd MAX and no trades are available stretch Gallo to open 2nd MAX.

There are several teams that already called the Clips wanting Gallo but only trading him if 2nd MAX is needed.

23 Jun 2019 04:08:07
Toronto Raptors - L.A. Lakers

Toronto receives: Kyle Kuzma and Alex Caruso

Lakers receive: Kyle Lowry, J.B Nash, and James Greene

16 Jun 2019 00:52:28
I think what happen will be:

Leonard may stay in Toronto or go to the Clippers?

Probably New York will trade:

- NY: Davis
- NO: BARRETT, Smith, Know, Robinson

NY signs Irving and Durant.

If not Irving and Durant will go to Brooklyn and AD may end up at Lakers somehow.

New Orleans will have a amazing young core in Robinson, Zion, (Randle maybe), Knox, Johnson, Barrett, Smith and Holiday or a return of him (maybe Suns pic to take White PG ?)

Since the Lakers will sign Butler and Cousins.

So the Mavs should target signs or trade:

Drummond or Valenciunas (Randle?)
Leonard, Middleton, Brogdon, Amuni or Lamb
Walker, Russell or Rubio.

A trade proposal will follow up!

16 Jun 2019 02:04:16
Well, that didn't take long to be wrong.

16 Jun 2019 03:26:22
AD is already a Laker.

16 Jun 2019 04:45:24
Ad to lakers is official.

11 Jun 2019 17:22:00
Hawks


The Hawks are a team to watch this off-season. They're loaded with draft picks and have cap space for a Max FA. If they want to take a chance, I can see them making a solid offer to NO similar to what Toronto did for Kawhi.


ATL- Anthony Davis
NOP- John Collins, Kevin Hueter, Allen Crabb, #8, #10, 2021 first (top 10 protected)

NOP requirement for Davis
All-Star (check)
Young Player (check)
two firsts (check)

Sign Demarcus Cousins to MAX

Draft
17- Romeo Langford, SG
35- Naz Reid, PF
41- Carson Edwards, PG
44- Kris Wilkes, SF

PG- Trae Young/Carson Edwards
SG- Kent Bazemore/Romeo Landford
SF- DeAndre Bembry/Kris Wilkes
PF- Anthony Davis/Naz Reid
C- Demarcus Cousins/Alex Len

11 Jun 2019 17:32:15
No all-star in that package.

11 Jun 2019 17:37:19
Collins is close enough. He clearly has the upside and already isn’t far off.

11 Jun 2019 17:50:34
Yeah, Collins has star potential, and that's two top 10 picks. If anything, that's an overpay by Atlanta.

Also, a max deal for Cousins is a horrible horrible decision.

11 Jun 2019 17:54:29
Magsnusarn, He may not be a voted All-Star, but he is better than anything NY or LA would offer. No one outside of those two teams would offer them their asking bc of his looming FA status and desire to play in either of those cities. With Durant getting hurt, i think he stays in GS one more year (accepts his $31 mil option) and changes this off-season. Making a few teams change paths, especially in the East.

11 Jun 2019 18:23:28
Bmiller66, I can't see Cousins going there without the Max. So while i agree it is an overpay for him, it would be the only way to lure him there imo. I also don't think it is too bad seeing how he is only 29 and a year removed from a dominant Big man.

11 Jun 2019 18:24:56
Not to mention Davis enjoyed playing with Cousins. It is more about giving Davis a reason to re-sign.

11 Jun 2019 18:41:07
Insider, it felt they minimized each other’s games. They were just redundant and that was ore injury Cousins. He’ll like never be that guy again.

11 Jun 2019 18:54:07
Watching him play with GS, he's a shell of his former self. He's not a top 10 center. Defensively, that injury turned him from average to horrible. I think he's pretty comparable to Kanter at this stage.

And yeah, I think the Davis/ Cousins pairing was unsuccessful. NO was better without Cousins.

10 Jun 2019 01:11:10
With Kyrie trending towards the Knicks, the Hornets seemingly intent on offering Kemba the SuperMax, and the Pelicans possibly preferring other packages, it’s probably a good idea to think about contingency plans for the Knicks landing win now pieces to go around KD.

Knicks send #3 pick and Lance Thomas
Raptors send Pascal Siakam and Fred Vanfleet

This is worth it for the Knicks because Pascal is young and cost controlled coming out of his rookie deal and into his 2nd contract. He’s also got everything you need out of the modern player and can help shield KD from having to guard the best wing of the other team. Plus the Knicks get Finals hero VanFleet on a deal worth only 8 mil a year. Makes sense for the Raptors if Kawai walks because it kicks off a strong rebuild with a Canadian centerpiece in Barrett.

I know this is going to be the controversial one because Siakam doesn’t seem like the kinda guy you would want for 3 but I think that kind of role player, essentially filling the Draymond-ish role, is invaluable. Also, our expectations for rookies is also ridiculous, for example if Marvin Bagley ends up with a career like Siakam, that’s a win if you ask me, and that’s a way better draft class.

Then
Knicks send Frank Ntilikina and Kevin Knox
Spurs send Demar DeRozan.

Spurs are said to be trying to move DeRozan ahead of FA especially when the franchise is ready to unleash their new look young backcourt in Murray and White. Here, they get 2 high upside prospects including a forward which they desperately need. Knicks get a true second star and guy who loves to playmake and would be highly likely to resign.

Maybe not the depth chart of dreams Knick fans envisioned but a really solid team with some interesting line ups.

DSJ/ Vanfleet
DeRozan
KD
Pascal
Deandre Jordan (resigned) / Mitchell Robinson

Go Small:
Vanfleet
DSJ
DeRozan
KD
Pascal

It’s a team with a ton of playmaking, tons of rim protection, and decent spacing. KD could go back and forth between walking supernova and ultimate off-ball threat. This team would immediately be in the top tier of the East. I think they match up well with the Bucks but probably not as well against the 6ers.

10 Jun 2019 04:17:04
Be patient. The orderlies will be by with your medicine any minute now.

10 Jun 2019 05:08:45
I like Pascal and Vanfleet so that's not a bad trade if, and big if, a top free agent signs with NY. If KD doesn't sign with NY, Kyrie won't sign. I don't think Kawhi is leaving Toronto yet, if he does it will be to Clippers. Maybe Knicks get Butler and someone like Cousins or Gasol. I doubt that happens, and NY still won't be title contender if it does.

Package for DeRozen is a joke. Those are not 2 high upside prospects, an average prospect and a bust.

10 Jun 2019 11:57:05
Siakim is not being dealt for pick 3, guy is about to become a multi time All-Star.

10 Jun 2019 11:59:09
Kyrie Irving is trending toward the Nets, not the Knicks. ;)

10 Jun 2019 16:12:02
Toronto isn’t moving either of those guys.

13 Jun 2019 20:09:29
yah looks good but leonardo is going to resign 2 year player option. and Raptors will keep the same team to repeat if they win tonight game 6. and . big and they should trade Powell for shooters. bring in Seth curry resign green and bring in more young players to help with speed and length.

08 Jun 2019 01:43:45
Clippers-Pelicans-Wizards

Clippers: Davis
assuming Kawhi leaves Raptors still sign him to max contract.
After Kawhi signing there will still be around 25mil available salary

sign Wesley Matthews 2yr/20mil
sign Jeff Green 1yr vet min
sign Wayne Ellington 2yr/14mil
resign Pat Beverley 3yr/30mil

Beverley/Shamet
Matthews/Williams
Kawhi/Ellington/Thornwell
Davis/Green
Harrell/Zubac

Pelicans: Beal, 1st rd pick Clippers, 1st rd pick Sixers, 2nd rd pick Clippers
rebuilding while still competing, get a young all-star as AD's replacement on their team. A flexible guard combo of Beal and Holiday who can both play pg and sg

Holiday/Payton
Beal
Johnson
Williamson
Randle/Okafor

Wizards: Gallinari, SGA, Robinson, 1st rd pick Clippers
get a young PG with lots of potential

SGA/Wall
Robinson
Gallinari
Portis
Bryant

assume all 1st are future

 
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