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08 Feb 2018 19:25:51
SAS-LAL-LAC-MIN

Spurs get- Isiah Thomas, Avery Bradley

Lakers get- Derrick White

Clippers get- Cole Aldrich (can be cut next season), Davis Bertans, 1st rd pcik (SAS), 2nd rd pick (MIN)

Minnesota gets- Danny Green

What do you think?

05 Feb 2018 19:19:24
CLE-LAC-MIL-MIN trade

Cleveland gets- Deandre Jordan, Mathew Delladova, Lou Williams

Los Angeles gets- John Henson, Channing Frye, Cole Aldrich, Cedi Osman, Ante Zizic, Rashad Vaugn, Shabazz Muhammad, 1st rd pick (BKN)

Milwaukee gets- Tristan Thompson, Iman Shumpert

Minnesota gets- JR Smith, 1st rd pick ( worse of LAC or DET pick)

WHY I THINK EACH TEAM DOES THIS...

CLE- They want Deandre Jordan and Lou Williams. Delly is someone Lebron likes and can help them in defense.

LAC- They get assets that they can evaluate and cut if they don't like them. They also don't have to take back any horrendous contracts.

MIL- They get a big man who is a tenacious rebounder and a wing defender, without having to give up much.

MIN- High Risk trade that could pay off, JR offers the CHANCE of added shooting. They get a draft pick for taking on the player with the worst contract/ lowest upside.

What do you think? Thanks!

05 Feb 2018 19:33:46
HA HA HA! Milwaukee says NO! Thompson is worse than Henson, Shumpert is worse than Dellavedova, Vaughn will be a toss in on any trade. Why is it ALL Cav fans try and screw all other teams? Then give back "Crap" in return? How about Milwaukee trades 3rd string and seldom used SG R. Vaughn for Thomas, Love and L. James, Plus the Cav's 1st rd. picks for the next 20 years? Makes just about as much sense!

05 Feb 2018 19:47:16
Way overselling Thompson, and Shumpert. Negative value.

05 Feb 2018 19:57:44
jorgawood--youre probably right, I just feel like Thompson would be a good fit with the Bucks he's a high energy player, Shumpert was just a toss in bc his contract ends after next year

The Dark Side-- I don't even like the cavs. I'm a lifelong Wolves fan, just sharing an interesting trade that I personally thought was fair.

05 Feb 2018 21:03:52
@ maplejordan. As a Wolves fan you would have know better. How about, Thompson and Shumpert for KAT, and Wiggins? Look at Thompsons stats. plus the Fact that he's dragging along some extra luggage (Kardashagin) Thompson might be "high energy" but, so is Dellavedova, and at times Henson can be, Both are overpaid, Like Thompson and Shumpert! Bucks need a Defensive Rim Protector. Someone who weighs more than 200 lbs. Henson and Maker are both just tall (6'11" and 7'1") PF's playing Center, and nothing more. I would rather have Jordan, Whiteside, Or at the very least McGee (Now that's "High Energy! ") or Bogut playing Center.

07 Feb 2018 20:41:10
Terrible. Tristan Thompson is horrible. Way over paid like his gfs family. They do nothing and get money. Only value Thompson has is to the CBA where he might be an average player. I’ll take Raef Lafrentz if he comes out of retirement over Thompson.

05 Feb 2018 05:15:25
*MIN shabazz muhammad told the front office he is asking to be waive or release before trade deadline due to not playing significant minutes off the bench.

*MIL shopping rashad vaughn

MIN
trade: Shabazz Muhammad
Get: Rashad Vaughn

MIL
trade: Rashad Vaughn
Get: Shabazz Muhammad

Mil gets a good cutter coming off the bench.

Min gets a good 3point shooter off the bench. Also R.Vaughn is from Minnesota so he comes home to play for his city.

thoughts?

05 Feb 2018 05:28:53
Muhammed should go to a team where he'll play. ATL, or DAL maybe? I don't see a lot of minutes for him in MIL.

05 Feb 2018 16:58:12
@ jorgawood, No doubt Muhammad would get more PT off the bench than Vaughn is currently getting in Milwaukee. Especially with Brogdan down for the next 1-2 months.

04 Feb 2018 23:17:40
Celtics: Tyreke Evans

Grizzlies: Jamal Crawford, 2018 OKC 1st, and 2018 Celtics 1st.

Timberwolves: Marcus Smart, and 2019 Piston's 2nd.

Basically the T-Wolves need a guard who's better defensively than Crawford off the bench and Smart is actually outscoring Crawford making his expendable to the Wolves. They give up OKC's first which they acquired from Utah for Rubio and get and a 2nd back from the Celtics because I do't believe Smart is worth a 1st.

The Grizzlies get probably the best package they can for Tyreke, getting two firsts and a cheap contract they can trade either this year or next.

Celtics get the scoring 6th man they've needed and with this move almost ensure that they make the finals over the Cavs.

05 Feb 2018 00:16:57
c’s could prob get tyreke for just that 1st, why would they give up smart too for the same return.

04 Feb 2018 17:16:38
Wolves-Cavs-Knicks

- I know this trade wouldn't work because of the injury to Kevin Love and since Jae Crowder can't be traded until the offseason, but I feel like this trade could happen if not for the restrictions.

Wolves recieve:

- Kevin Love
- Joakim Noah
- Jae Crowder
- Derrick Rose
- Micheal Beasley
- 2018 2nd round pick from New York (via Chicago)

Knicks recieve:

- Gorgui Dieng
- Nemanja Bjelica

Cavs recieve:

- Jeff Teague
- Cole Aldrich
- Tyus Jones
- Justin Patton
- 2018 1st round pick from Minnesota (via Oklahoma City)
- 2019 2nd round pick from Minnesota (via Minnesota)



Future Lineups:

Wolves:

- Sign Ty Lawson or Brandon Jennings to vet. minimum to balance roster.

PG: D.Rose-FA-A.Brooks
SG: J.Butler-J.Crawford-S.Muhammad
SF: A.Wiggins-J.Crowder-M.Beasley
PF: K.Love-T.Gibson-M.Beasley
C: KAT-J.Noah-T.Gibson

Knicks:

- Same lineup except Dieng will be back up Center once Willy Hernangomez and/or Kyle O'Quinn are traded. Also, Nemanja Bjelica would be the back up power forward.

Cavs:

- This trade would only be the first of many for the Cavs because they would make more trades out of Isaiah Thomas, Tristan Thompson, and the Brooklyn Pick.

Why the teams do it:

Wolves:
- Minnesota does this trade because they would get a bunch of "Thibs" guys. While acquiring Noah's contract would hurt, they do acquire Kevin Love and Thibs could get some production out of Noah. Also, acquiring Derrick Rose and Micheal Beasley will help.

Knicks:
- The Knicks do this trade for one reason: they get rid of Joakim Noah. While the people they get back won't actually change there salary situation, the Knicks would actually get contributers (Dieng + Bjelica) - unlike Noah.

Cavs:
- The Cavs do this trade for the picks and they would now get an angle to trade Isaiah Thomas (because Jeff Teague would replace). Also, this trade makes Cleveland younger (Tyus Jones and Justin Patton) while also still giving them flexibility to still make other trades.

04 Feb 2018 17:27:54
not going to happens tho tbh.

02 Feb 2018 17:44:53
Knicks - Timberwolves

Knicks gets:
Aldrich (Expiring)
Bjelica (Expiring)
Patton

Timberwolves gets:
Noah
Beasley (Expiring)
Jack (Expiring)
2019 1st rd pick (Top 3 protected)
2018 2nd rd pick (Bulls)
Future 2nd rd pick

Knicks gets rid of Noah and saves money for a first and two seconds.

Timberwolves get a better bench for the playoffs and Tibs reunite with Noah.

02 Feb 2018 18:11:02
Twolves are building a contending team, they surely don't want any part of Noah even if it brings the happy family together.

02 Feb 2018 18:19:59
Wolves would now have overpaid Dieng, and overpaid Noah. Put in Dieng, and the conversation could start about Noah.

02 Feb 2018 18:56:50
joegawood. Dieng might be overpaid, but he still makes less than Noah, is more versatile than Noah, a better player than Noah, and is actually healthy.

02 Feb 2018 19:29:21
I have no idea what you are referring to carl006, but Bjelica is far more used, and valuable to MIN than Dieng. I think you are missing my point and assuming something I didn't say.

02 Feb 2018 20:57:16
jorgawood. You implied that Minnesota should swap Noah for Dieng. Terrible idea for Minnesota.

02 Feb 2018 21:19:54
Wrong! START with a deal involving Dieng if there is even a thought at taking on Noah. MIN is actively shopping Dieng with no takers. Not sure where you are coming from in any way.

02 Feb 2018 21:24:02
Dieng is owed 10mil more guaranteed, and for 2 seasons longer as well. He's 28 its junk contract.

02 Feb 2018 22:56:06
What are you taking about? Dieng is signed for 3 more years, Noah 2.

Minnesota isn't swapping about a quality, younger, healthy rotation player to save one year on a contract.

Bottom line, there is 0 chance Minnesota trades for Noah.

01 Feb 2018 16:24:28
Utah-Minnesota trade

Utah gets-Cole Aldrich, Shabazz Muhammad

Minnesota gets- Joe Johnson

01 Feb 2018 16:42:10
Johnson would help a lot in MIN. He still has game. Crawford could use the help in the second unit.

30 Jan 2018 00:58:36
Cleveland-Clippers-Wolves

Cleveland acquire DeAndre Jordan, Danilo Gallinari & Lou Williams

Clippers acquire Cole Aldrich, Gorgui Dieng, Iman Shumpert, Shabbaz Muhammad, Channing Frye (exp), Cleveland's own 1st, Cavs 2nd round pick & Wolves future 1st round pick

Wolves acquire Kevin Love & Derrick Rose

29 Jan 2018 16:33:43
MIN-DET-UTA trade

Minnesota gets- Avery Bradley, Stanley Johnson

Detroit gets- Cole Aldrich, Rodney Hood

Utah gets- Shabazz Muhammad, 1st rd pick (OKC)

29 Jan 2018 12:49:12
cavs/magic

cavs trade isaiah thomas & 2019 second round pick from minnesota

magic trade elfrid payton & mario hezonja

elfrid payton have 3 million for 1+1 year

mario hezonja have 3 million for 1+1 year on a contract

isaiah thomas have 6 million for 1 year on a contract

29 Jan 2018 16:04:13
not saying IT’s trade value is super high, but this isn't enough.

29 Jan 2018 17:06:33
just do your trade fool cavs only gave second round pick that it no first round pick.

28 Jan 2018 18:05:23
jazz/cavs

jazz trade rodney hood

cavs trade cedi osman & future second round pick from minnesota & channing frye (contract buyout) going to (waive)

what y'all think?

28 Jan 2018 18:52:44
Can't see any of those guys being rotation players in Utah.

28 Jan 2018 19:39:59
cedi osman is good he need more playing time to prove himself to the world to be the next gordon hayward.

28 Jan 2018 20:54:51
Two things:

1. If you think Osman is the next Hayward, why would you want to trade him?

2. In what world is Osman the next Hayward? Does anyone actually believe that?

28 Jan 2018 22:17:34
Ditto to what Bmiller said.

28 Jan 2018 07:31:22
cavs /hornets

cavs trade isaiah thomas & cedi osman & future second round pick from minnesota

hornets trade kemba walker & malik monk

what y'all think???

28 Jan 2018 10:48:25
Cavs should ad the Nets pick.

28 Jan 2018 10:57:44
Thinking that Charlotte might balk at giving up its best player for next to nothing.

23 Jan 2018 04:47:21
MEM-CLE-MIN

Grizz : Isaiah Thomas (exp), Channing Frye (exp) Iman Shumpert, Gorgui Dieng, Shabbaz Muhammad, Brooklyn 1st & Wolves 1st

Cavs : Marc Gasol & Mike Conley

Wolves : Kevin Love

23 Jan 2018 06:34:18
You'll have to add Jordan Patton from the Wolves to the Grizzlies to make the money work. Even with that, I like it overall though.

19 Jan 2018 19:59:58
LAC-MIL-MIN-DEN trade

Los Angeles gets- Wilson Chandler, John Henson, Malcolm Brogdon, Malik Beasley

Milwaukee gets- Deandre Jordan, Juan Hernangomez

Minnesota gets- Lou Williams, Tony Snell

Denver gets- Jeff Teague

What do you think??

19 Jan 2018 20:44:39
Not bad, seems to work for everyone.

19 Jan 2018 22:44:29
Minnesota is left without a point guard.

19 Jan 2018 23:41:44
@ jorgawood, Agreed! Take out F Juan Hernangomez, and put in F Sam Dekker. Then take out SG T, Snell, and put in PG M. Dellavedova. Then The Wolves would have a PG, and the Bucks would have a backup SF.

20 Jan 2018 01:03:55
Dark-Side, I can see Thibs liking Delladova defensively, if he can keep the TO's to a minimum.

20 Jan 2018 01:47:14
@ jorgawood, Agreed, Plus the Wolves would still have a PG. Dellevedova plays PG better than SG. And the Bucks still have others that can backup Bledsoe. (Terry, Munford, and Kilpatrick) And they can use a backup SF. (Dekker? ) If that trade would go thru. And Parker would be coming back, That would put Middleton back at SG, with Parker moving to SF. So, Jordan, Giannis A., Parker, Middleton, and Bledsoe, would be the starting 5. Not bad, But as we know, Wishful thinking! And yes, Dellavedova is a defensive and assist minded PG. The Bucks currently have 10 guards, So, losing Brogdan and dellavedova, shouldn't hurt to bad!

18 Jan 2018 17:19:42
Twolves-Hawks


Twolves get Marco Bellinelli and a 2nd rd pick


Hawks get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st.

13 Jan 2018 05:29:55
cavs/hawks

cavs trade tristan thompson & jr smith & cedi osman bkn first round pick & 2019 minnesota second round pick & 2020 miami second round pick

hawks trade kent bazemore & john collins & dewayne dedmon

what y'all think?

13 Jan 2018 05:50:55
i really believe the nets pick is off limits unless an all star is coming to cleveland.

13 Jan 2018 19:28:17
Donadamsky what all star do you think a team will give up for the 9th pick? If you wanted to get any value you shouild have traded it before the season.

13 Jan 2018 05:04:48
so this hilarious clippers proposal targeting KAT for a package centered around blake got me thinking in a different direction...
if AD really is untouchable (for the sake of discussion) should the celtics move on to KAT as their next target? (assuming he isn't out of play like we are saying AD is)
depending on who u ask, KAT has potential to be better than AD, so you would think what the c's would offer would be similar...
also, KAT is still on his rookie scale contract thru next season, so u don't have to include big money (horford) to match salaries like with AD.
lets say they get the lakers pick, offer brown but leave wiggle room to upgrade that to tatum if the wolves hesitate, anything else from either side for salary matching would be arbitrary...
am i on to anything?

13 Jan 2018 05:28:39
KAT seems like one of the least likely players in the NBA to get moved. He's on a good young team, still on a
rookie scale, is Minnesota's only starting caliber center, is controlled for likely 5 more years, Minnesota has other young valuable pieces to swing trades with like Eiggind and he has already proven to be a star in the NBA. Tatum has been a high level 3 and D player that has the potential to be a lot more, but KAT has already flashed MVP potential in his career. I think the most likely younger allstar Big to come available would be Gobert.

13 Jan 2018 05:49:16
@rkenne sure, everything u said makes sense. but i'm asking u to accept my hypothetical scenario and evaluate therein.
i agree that KAT should be, as probably is off limits, but we throw AD’s name around in trades like its nothing, so what is the real difference?
so ill put it this way, if minn were to entertain offers for KAT, what would it have to be from boston? u can't tell me the lakers pick if it lands top 5 isn't worth considering, there are 3 or 4 players in this draft that could end up as top 10 guys in the whole league. u attach brown or tatum to that and you have an offer just about any team would have to consider for its best young player.

13 Jan 2018 10:26:40
Only with McHale as GM :-) :-) :-)

KAT in a Boston uniform would be awesome. But this could only happen when he would be unhappy in Minny

Tatum+Rozier+ 1rnd pick LA+ 1rnd pick Boston 2018 and 2020+ 1rnd pick Memphis 2019
I could see this package work, if the LA pick could bring Ayton to Minny (and maybe Young)

13 Jan 2018 12:34:09
Agree with Gasupo. If they were open to moving him it would take a huge package. Tatum and LA pick alone wouldn't do it.

10 Jan 2018 19:42:18
LAL-ATL-MIN trade

Los Angeles gets- Shabazz Mouhammad, Malcolm Delaney, Ersan Ilyasova

Atlanta gets- Jordan Clarkson, Cole Aldrich

Minnesota gets- Marco Belinelli, Luke Babbitt

10 Jan 2018 17:07:51
MIA-DAL-MIN-MIL trade

Miami gets- DJ WIlson, Cole Aldrich, Nerlens Noel, Devin Harris, Shabazz Mouhammad, 1st rd pick (OKC)

Dallas gets- Jabari Parker, Dion Waiters, John Henson, Rashad Vaughn

Minnesota gets- Wayne Ellington, Josh McRoberts, Justise Winslow

Milwaukee gets- Hassan Whiteside, Seth Curry, Marcus Georges-Hunt

Why I think each team does it-

Miami- They cut a lot of cap space, Cole Aldrich can be cut after this season and only cost $2 million, and they can use the OKC pick to make more cap

Dallas- They get young players with potential while also absobing some money

Minnesota- They get a shooter in Ellington, a shooting big man in McRoberts, and Defense in Winslow

Milwaukee- They get a big man that fits what they're looking for in WHiteside and a shooter off the bench in Curry

Whats your thoughts? Thanks for looking!

10 Jan 2018 17:34:57
Miami should get more and Dallas gets too much.

10 Jan 2018 18:06:34
Why would Milwaukee give up, Last years 1st. rd pick #10 in D J Wilson, AND J Parker, AND J Henson, AND R Vaughn (4 players) for Whiteside, Curry, and Georges-Hunt? They already have a rim protector in Henson, and shooters in Middleton, Brown, Kilpatrick, Terry, Middleton, and Dellavedova. The Bucks currently have 10 guards now. Plus, the fact they are looking at trading for either D. Jordan, or McGee, OR can just sign free agent A. Bogut. What are your thoughts?

10 Jan 2018 18:47:19
Henson is a below average starter. McGee and Bogut are fringe rotation players. Whiteside is a top 10 center. Saying the Bucks already have a rim protector so they don’t need Whiteside is like saying “the blazers already have a two way SF in Moe Harkless, so why would they need Paul George? ”.

What of those 4 is incredibly valuable? Henson is a nice role player. Parker is great if he can stay healthy (which he can’t) . Wilson has played 40 minutes this year. And Vaughn is a fringe rotation player at best.

If I’m the Bucks, I jump at this.

10 Jan 2018 21:25:23
Its apparent you aren't the Bucks. What about Seth Curry is valuable? What about Georges-Hunt is? Both are PG/ SG's And Again, The Bucks currently have ten of them! But, YOU already knew that right? Which of them is currently better than Snell, Dellavedova, M.

10 Jan 2018 21:54:58
Dark Side, They waived Liggins too, it's obvious Bucks aren't looking for guard help.

11 Jan 2018 00:20:03
@ jorgawood. Agreed! They also have Bledsoe, Dellavedova, Brogdan, Middleton, Terry, Brown, Kilpatrick, Snell, Vaughn, And another guard from the "G" league. So, One would think they really don't need Guards! They do need backup SF's and a legit Center. Both Henson and Maker are PF's playing Center. Liggins has just now been picked up by NO Pels. on a 10 contract. He was/ is a very good defender! Just not much offense. The Bucks have a 3.5 and 5 million exception. They could still sign FA Center Bogut to one of them. Or trade SG for McGee. Or "Rent" D Jordan for a year. Jordan would cost Milwaukee Henson, Brogdan Middleton, or some combo of at least 2 of them.

11 Jan 2018 04:16:25
Dark Side your right about that. I really think whether its Bogut, or Mcgee the improvement will be noticeable. Maker has stretch 4 qualities to his developing game. Making him dig it out in the post is making him look worse than he really is. It's good for him though in the long run. Jordan would really improve them, a lot. He would also cost them a lot. When Parker is playing full minutes the Bucks will be no joke. No Joke! Any team without a perimeter defense is in big trouble.

11 Jan 2018 16:36:14
@jorgawood. There is talk that Parker will be back before the all-star break. There is also talk about moving Giannis A. to the 5 (Center position) and putting Parker in at the 4 (PF position) That would leave Middleton in at the 3 (SF) Either Brogdan, or Snell in at the 2 (SG) and Bledsoe in at the 1 (PG) Time will tell. I would still try and get either Bogut, or McGee for a Center, and release SG R. Vaughn, or Terry. Both are nothing more than Cheerleaders! Terry rarely plays, And Vaughn usually doesn't at all.

11 Jan 2018 18:44:28
Dark Side, the Bucks could give any team in the east a run for their money with that line-up. People have short memories, and forget Parker was the leading scorer on the Bucks this time last year. The improvement he will make to the Bucks is huge in scoring, and the line-up, and rotational advantages you described.

10 Jan 2018 05:48:17
phx/cavs
cavs trade channing frye 2020 miami second round pick & 2019 minnesota second round pick

phx trade tyson chander

10 Jan 2018 13:16:14
Value is not bad, but I don't like it for Cleveland.

Both Boston and GSW run out a lot of smaller, athletic "death squads". Chandler would not touch the floor against those teams, making this a bad fit for the Cavs.

10 Jan 2018 23:01:06
Chandler’s salary is about 6 million dollars more than frye’s. This trade it seems is not allowed by nba rules.

 
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