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17 Jun 2019 16:14:08
to hou: k. love, clarkson, bates-diop
to cle: capela, saric, dieng
to min: gordon, nene.

17 Jun 2019 16:28:49
Minny loses bad.

17 Jun 2019 16:49:11
@shiller gordon is better than anyone they give up, they can extend him, or flip as expiring if it don't work out. saric is good and going to be ext eligible too, but dumping dieng here was significant, 2 yrs of a bad contract gone, they give up basically two young role players but avoid shedding any future picks.

17 Jun 2019 18:05:28
None can't play and losing two rotation guts when they have 7 with rose and gibson as free agents?

15 Jun 2019 06:46:53
SAC-DET-MIN

SAC: Andre Drummond, Robert Covington

Fox/Ferrell
Hield/Bogdanovic
Covington/FA
Bagley/Swanigan
Drummond/Giles

DET: Jeff Teague, Andrew Wiggins, Nemanja Bjelica, 1st round pick MIN (11th pick), 2nd round pick from SAC

Teague/Smith
Wiggins/Galloway
Kennard/Brown/15th pick
Griffin/Bjelica
Maker/11th pick

MIN: Harrison Barnes (exp), Reggie Jackson (exp), Frank Mason, 2021 1st round pick from SAC (protected)

Jackson/Jones
Okogie/Rose/Mason
Barnes/Bates
Saric/Gibson
Towns/Dieng

15 Jun 2019 07:50:47
Minnesota is a big swerve on this one no way I’m giving Roco to dump Wiggins, i’d rather give up my pick. But man, dream move for the Kings.

15 Jun 2019 10:23:27
Kings say no Drummond does nothing for them. Isn't fast enough clogs the lane for fox and they lose a 1st yeah right.

15 Jun 2019 15:13:02
Kings can get a big man in free agency. Not trading away their starting wing when they need more wing help and not trading more 1st round picks either.

15 Jun 2019 16:28:46
As the third to chime in, Kings say no.

Drummond checks 2 of the 3 boxes that I want in a big (shot blocking, rebounding, and mid-range shooting), but I am only giving up a future first (abd future cap flexibility) for someone who checks all the blocks.

Now if we are talking about a 2019 second rounder and a future 2nd rounder, I would give this proposal some serious consideration.

14 Jun 2019 13:42:58
If KD opts out:

Warriors send Jacob Evans
Twolves send Wiggins, Saric, and Pick 11

At 11 the Warriors pick Nassir Little.

Warriors get a pick and Saric to take Wiggins, who while grossly overpaid, has value for the Dubs. The Warriors get a volume wing scorer which the Warriors need due to Klay’s injury. It would be interesting to see what Steph’s spacing and incredible work off ball would mean for Wiggins. Finally, I think Kerr could do wonders for Wiggins.

Then the Warriors take high upside but immediate impact wing defender at pick 11 and also get a young big whose best asset is his incredible passing which fits so well with the Warriors.

14 Jun 2019 14:05:10
Why would the Timberwolves do that? They try to help the Warriors stay significantly good?

14 Jun 2019 14:11:21
The Warriors don’t have cap.

14 Jun 2019 15:20:31
usa, because Minnesota needs to get of off Wiggins deal, just dumping 1 first rounder is a deal.

rkenne_16 yes they do since Klay and KD will be opting out they’ll have plenty of space and they can use Bird Rights on Klay since it’s a resign. At least, if I understand it correctly.

14 Jun 2019 16:20:37
They have capholds and even without Durant’s salary on the books, they don’t have cap.

14 Jun 2019 16:57:11
Yeah, the only way they can resign Klay with Bird Rights is if they have a ~30 million cap hold (taking up that space) . So they don't have cap space unless they waive Durant and Klay's Bird Rights.

14 Jun 2019 18:09:03
I have a funny thinking that both Klay and KD are either opting in or signing deals with GSW.

So you all better get your championship teams put together for next year to try to beat the Klaw in Toronto.

14 Jun 2019 18:27:20
The Warriors are saying they will offer Klay and Durant max contracts. As ESPN puts it, the Warriors know they will have $350mm in salaries, but with their new arena being a cash cow, they can afford it. And they will have a big storyline with KD and Klay sitting together and coming back in 2021. They can tank next season and have KD and Klay returning with a good draft pick.

12 Jun 2019 19:55:58
Okc gets
Fournier
Dieng
Augustin
Bamba
Orlando 2nd
Minnesota 2nd

Orlando gets
Wiggins
Adams
Schröder
Roberson

Minnesota gets
Gordon
Mozgov

Okc gets some shooting, younger guys, cap relief.

Orlando gets some vets to surround Fultz with.

Minnesota gets a front court running mate for KAT.

Thoughts?

12 Jun 2019 21:02:54
Magic say no.

12 Jun 2019 20:44:47
Why would Orlando want to give up Bamba to take on a bunch of bad money.

10 Jun 2019 00:46:07
Hornets - Wiggins
Wolves - Batum

- Hornets get a 2nd option to help Walker and younger player
- Wolves shed a couple years off of paying 25mil

Pelicans - Dieng and 11th
Wolves - Hill(exp in 2020)and Okafor

- Pelican add another lottery pick by adding another year of contract
- Wolves save 1-2 mil this year and Hill gets off the books 1 year before Dieng

Hornets draft Hayes
Pelicans draft Zion and Bol Bol

Teague/Rose
Batum/Okogie
Covington/Hill
Saric/Tolliver
Towns/Okafor

Walker
Lamb
Wiggins
Bridges
Hayes

Holiday
Moore
Johnson
Williamson
Bol Bol

10 Jun 2019 05:21:02
Hell, Kings will take Dieng + 11 and send Minny absolutely no salary. Probably even toss in pick #47.

10 Jun 2019 13:57:23
If I am Minnesota, I do the 1st one in a heartbeat.

And don't do the 2nd one. Dieng proved late this year that he is still a quality player when he was given consistent minutes. Plus, having Dieng and Batum expire at the same time opens up Minnesota to being a player in 2021 free agency.

08 Jun 2019 03:01:25
Atlanta get: Andrew Wiggins and 11th pick

Minnesota get: Allen Crabbe, Kent Bazemore and 17th pick.

08 Jun 2019 05:03:05
Atlanta is getting shafted.

08 Jun 2019 06:49:41
If Hawks keep the 17th there might be something to build off here.

08 Jun 2019 20:14:30
Why would Atlanta take on so much money just to swap picks?

07 Jun 2019 06:20:03
Nets

sign Kyrie to max
sign KD to max

sign and trade Dlo to Wolves for Teague, Saric

Irving/Teague
LeVert/Dinwiddie
Durant/Harris
Saric/Prince
Allen/FA

07 Jun 2019 15:26:19
They won’t have the cap space for the sign and trade after signing Durant and Irving.

07 Jun 2019 21:58:24
Thought nets got space for two max plus keep dlow.

07 Jun 2019 00:16:02
San Antonio-Minnesota-Memphis

San Antonio: Conley, Saric

Conley
White
Derozan
Saric
Poeltl

Minnesota: Aldridge

Teague
Okogie
Covington
Aldridge
Towns

Memphis: Wiggins, Mills, 19th, 11th pick

Morant
Bradley
Wiggins
Jackson
Valanciunas

07 Jun 2019 00:53:19
Bad move for Spurs.

07 Jun 2019 03:47:12
Bad move for grizz. They are going young not soft.

05 Jun 2019 22:03:53
Celtics loose Kyrie
Resign horford 4 yrs 60 mill
Resing Rozier 4 years 70 mill

T Wolves- Tatum, Williams, Yabusele, pick 14, 22, Celtics 2020 pick
Celtics- KAT

Celtics- Beal
Wizards- Smart, Brown, Ojehele, Grizzlies pick, 20

Celtics-
Rozier
Beal
Morris( resign)
Horford
KAT

05 Jun 2019 15:13:23
The Cavs get Tyler Johnson, Dieng, Josh Jackson, Okogie, Bates-Diop, and the 11th

The T wolves get Jr Smith(cut), Nance, and Open up a near max contract.

The Suns get Teague (exp) and Henson (exp)

05 Jun 2019 15:38:03
Tyler johnson has an expiring contract, so basically suns are giving up Jackson who even though hasn't lived up to his potential is still the best player in this trade, for another expiring contract? c'mon they can easily get a much better offer for jackson.

05 Jun 2019 16:29:27
He’s been bad and he’s facing a felony. His value is in the gutter. They get a defensive minded center and a short term starter/ mentor at pg. They have a much better chance of getting free agents next year and this let's them punt and bring in veterans, who could fill in.

05 Jun 2019 16:32:03
Cutting Smith doesn't remove his salary from Minn cap since this appesrs to be a post June 30 trade.

Plus, whatever space is going to have to be spent on resigning D. Rose.

05 Jun 2019 18:09:55
Rose will get overpaid by another team I hope. He plays 60 games at max.

05 Jun 2019 20:30:11
Then who is running point for Minny after this trade?

06 Jun 2019 00:06:21
Rkenne Jackson would be the best defender on the Cavs, and prob. The best players since love is always hurt. he's competing with 2 other lottery picks at his position so of course his numbers aren't going to be that of a starting sf. The fact you have the Cavs getting him shows that you know how valuable he is. If he was bad why would u want him?

04 Jun 2019 05:13:33
Spurs send DeRozan, receive Blake Griffin

Pistons send Blake Griffin, receive Andrew Wiggins and the 11th pick

Minnesota receives DeRozan, sends Andrew Wiggins and the 11th pick.

DeRozan is low key a very good playmaker and thrived with opportunities as the lead. I think Minnie has the perfect amount of shooters and defense to put around him to create a really interesting line up.
1. Okogie
2. DeRozan
3. Covington
4.? (Saric, I guess? )
5. KAT

If they’re able to fill the 4 hole, preferably with a defensive guy, this line up is huge and pretty spaced.

The Spurs role with the exciting young backcourt, but form an elite front court with who is IMO the most underrated player in the NBA today in Griffin. Get any production out of the 3 and you’re looking at a team in Western Conference contention.

The Pistons aren’t going anywhere, so Wiggins gives them a youngish guy (compared to Blake) who as the best player on the team you hope the quantity of reps improve him. Plus they get an extra lottery pick out of it to facilitate the rebuild.

04 Jun 2019 17:25:37
You’d need the 11th pick just to take on Wiggins. You wouldn’t get anything of value back.

08 Jun 2019 03:05:05
DeRozan straight up for Griffin is interesting.

02 Jun 2019 02:52:36
Cavs Knicks Wolves

Wolves receive
Thompson
Clarkson
Henson
Smith Jr

Knicks receive
Wolves 2019 11 pick
Cavs 2019 26th pick
Cavs 2022 first round pick
Jr Smith
Bates- Diop

Cavs receive
Knicks 2019 3rd pick
Thomas
Ntilikina
Dotson
Wiggins
Dieng

Wolves do this because the value of giving up their first and getting good young talent with better contracts (Clarkson, Thompson, Smith Jr) and giving up contracts for Wiggins and Dieng is to hard to pass up.

Knicks do this because they get two picks in return for their 3rd pick and most importantly clearing all players they possibly can (besides knox and robinson) and giving them JRs partly guaranteed contract and adding a Bates-Diop. This gives the Knicks the full flexibility they were looking for in cap room for the offseason.

Cavs do this, well they actually take a huge risk for their desire to have RJ Barrett and they keep their 5th pick so they absurb a huge amount of salary and bad contracts in order to have a chance to build a young better contending team while having young"stars" potential with Sexton Barrett and the 5th pick. They get Wiggins and Dieng who have bad contracts and long contracts but still can play ball offensively. and they still have Love so this could be a complete bust or a big reward and Cavs need to take a chance like this to compete.

02 Jun 2019 14:36:00
Legit this is horrible for the Knicks. Seriously, why would they do it?

02 Jun 2019 16:36:19
How is this horrible for the knicks? I do understand giving up the 3rd would be a hard choice if they wanted one player but they are already looking to trade back. They clear all cap space besides for Knox and Robinson, the two young guys they wanted to keep. They have two first round picks and gain another of the Cavs for the future. They get Bates Diop on a three year deal that is less than a mil a year. If the Knicks are so sure KD is coming then they should do all they can to clear as much cap as possible to build the team around him and whoever else he brings with him.

01 Jun 2019 05:07:10
SAC - MIN

*Assuming Barnes opts into next season, SAC renounces Cauley-Stein's RFA rights, and MIN matches any reasonable offer to Jones

SAC gets: Covington, Dieng

MIN gets: Barnes, Giles

Sacramento trades for fit / roster balance and signs Vucevic to a front-loaded max contract (or close to it, to give them better odds at signing him). Covington is a perfect fit, and the new roster would be a better fit for Vucevic post-trade (harder to spread the offense around a frontcourt of Barnes, Bagley, and Vucevic). Pick and roll between Fox and Vucevic would be pretty hard to stop.

Minnesota's new GM trades for flexibility / # of assets instead of betting everything on their current core. They get rid of Dieng's contract, and both Barnes and Giles can slide to the 4 spot when Saric goes to the bench. Even if Barnes walks after 1 year, his contract and Teague's contract will expire at the same time. That should give them cap space (or they'll be close enough to easily maneuver if needed) for a max contract FA in 2020.


SAC:

Fox / Ferrell / Mason
Hield / Bogdanovic
Covington /
Bagley / Bjelica
Vucevic / Dieng / Swanigan

MIN:

Teague / Jones
Wiggins / Okogie
Barnes / Bates-Diop
Saric / Reynolds
Towns / Giles

Both teams could also still use MLE / BAE to fill out their rosters, and MIN still has the #11 pick.

01 Jun 2019 06:05:36
Props, this is creative. I think it’s a no from both sides. I’m only doing this as the Wolves if i’ve made other moves to clear salary like moving Wiggins and Teague because otherwise I’m making myself worse in a year I hope to compete in. The Kings would entertain the idea, but I think Giles is one piece too far when taking back the Dieng deal.

01 Jun 2019 14:16:40
Yea, Giles kills it for the Kings. Now if we can substitute Giles for Bjelica or a couple of 2nd rounders, then the Kings would definately be in.

01 Jun 2019 02:39:12
Heat - Wiggins
Wolves - Waiters and Johnson

- Heat gets a much needed scorer
- Wolves get out of paying 25+ for 4 more years for 1 player

Heat draft Langford
Wolves draft Porter Jr

Dragic
Richardson
Wiggins
Winslow
Whiteside
- Langford Olynk Bam

Teague
Porter Jr
Covington
Saric
Towns
- Waiters Rose Johnson

01 Jun 2019 05:24:52
Nba- somebody will overpay rose this summer. He will play 45 games.

01 Jun 2019 15:24:16
No one is overpaying Rose this summer, but he only will play 45 games.

24 May 2019 14:19:18
Memphis get: Andrew Wiggins and the 11th pick
Timberwolves get: Mike Conley.

24 May 2019 15:49:51
Have to add another 1st. Conley is worth a first and Wiggins contract will cost you a first too.

24 May 2019 16:30:02
Adding Wiggins into the deal would likely be a nonstarter for the Grizzlies.

23 May 2019 21:45:22
Boston/ Minnesota

Boston get Wiggins/ Covington

Minnesota get Hayward/ Brown 1st Round Pick 2019.

23 May 2019 22:48:14
Seems really bad for Boston. I'd rather have Hayward than Wiggins, and I'd rather have Brown than Covington.

24 May 2019 00:51:23
That picks going the wrong way. Give me Hayward on one leg over Wiggins any day,

24 May 2019 05:07:38
This is a creative one. I too think that it should be Minnie sending a pick instead of Boston.

22 May 2019 22:43:15
Atanta/ Minesota

Atlanta get Wiggins Okogie
Minnesota get Bazemore, Len, 1st Round Pick 2019 (#10)

I believe Wiggins need to get out from Minnesota, and i still think he could be an all-star, the only think Atlanta can lose in this trade is that 1st Round Pick
which they could not have if Dallas was in the top 6, as for Minnesota they get rid of that Contract and focus on building on KAT, Bazemore is Solid and that 1st pick could be a good choice, what do you think?

23 May 2019 00:16:32
I think Atlanta keeps the pick and play this year out. They should be able to offer 2 max contracts next summer.

23 May 2019 01:02:38
There is no way Wiggins (and his contract) get the TWolves a lottery pick.

18 May 2019 17:43:11
Celtics resign Kyrie, Al Horford (have no money left)

Celtics- KAT
T Wolves- Hayward, Tatum, pick 14, 22

Celtics- Beal
Wizards- Smart, Brown, Williams, Grizzlies pick, pick 20

Celtics-
Kyrie
Beal
Ojeyele/ Yabusele/ Veteran free agent
Horford
KAT

18 May 2019 19:38:29
Absolutely do not want Beal. I would rather have all 3 of those players Instead of Beal.

18 May 2019 20:29:37
Do you genuinely think that package will get you KAT? Lmao.

19 May 2019 00:58:38
Not one chance Minnesota even considers taking that deal.

18 May 2019 00:52:21
Detroit-Minnesota

Detroit- Teague, 2nd rd pick '19, '20

Minnesota- Jackson, 15th pick

17 May 2019 02:00:45
MIN/CHI/LAL

MIN get 4th pick, Valentine & Felicio
Select Culver

Pg Teague/Rose/Jones
Sg Wiggins/Okogie
Sf Culver/Valentine/Bates
Pf Saric/Gibson/Felicio
Ce Towns/Dieng

CHI get Ball & 11th pick
Draft Bruno Fernando

Pg Ball/Dunn
Sg Lavine/Blakeney
Sf Porter/Hutchinson
Pf Markannen/FA
Ce Carter/Fernando

LAL get Covington & 7th pick
Sign Kemba Walker & Deandre Jordan

Pg Walker/Rondo
Sg Covington/Hart
Sf James/Ingram
Pf Kuzma/Wagner
Ce Jordan/McGee

I don't know how to value Ball in this site but the Bulls take him and go down 4 spots while getting rid of Felicio. The Lakers get a great defender on the wing and could draft Reddish to add shooting. Wolves go for a top 5 pick with a chance to get a top notch talent while taking Felicio but also getting another wing in valentine

 
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