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10 Aug 2018 20:40:17
MIN: Middleton, Maker

BOS: Butler

MIL gets: Hayward.

10 Aug 2018 20:50:55
Hayward is not getting traded!

10 Aug 2018 22:00:54
I think Mil says no.

10 Aug 2018 22:05:32
Why do you need to include Boston in this deal. Just send Butler to Milwaukee.

I think both players will opt out after next season. I think that both teams feel they have a better chance of re-signing their own free agents, especially Milwaukee.

Butler will be in high demand next summer.

Nice try though.

10 Aug 2018 22:17:07
Middleton isn't getting traded either!

11 Aug 2018 00:38:27
It seems like a better deal, if you just take Boston out of the trade.

11 Aug 2018 01:40:10
I could see a Middleton butler swap.

11 Aug 2018 14:25:54
I like the Butler for Hayward swap, but i don't think boston wanted to trade Hayward, unless they get A Davis.

12 Aug 2018 22:53:30
Middleton > Hayward The trade only makes sense if Milwaukee needed to shed a bad contract.

10 Aug 2018 09:09:19
How many x 1st picks does it need?

Mavs:
- Butler

Wolves:
- Wes
- Brunson
- x 1st


With Smith, Doncic, Butler, Barnes, Dirk and Jordan Mavs are back in the game!

Also with Butler, Wolves are not a win now team! Wes is a good Defender and they can build arround Towns and Wiggins and look for a Guard playmaker!

10 Aug 2018 14:02:22
Not very much for Butler. Wolves would ask for more.

10 Aug 2018 15:52:41
It wouldn’t work. The Mavs already have their pick out.

09 Aug 2018 16:58:00
MIL - MIN - ATL

Milwaukee get Butler
Minnesota get Bazemore, Brogdon, Brown, Maker
Atlanta get Snell, Wilson, Mil 2nd

Bucks get the best player in the deal and become real contenders in the East.

Bledsoe/Dellavedova/Duval
Butler/DiVicenzo
Middleton/Connaughton
Antetokoumbo/Ilyasova
Lopez/Henson/Zeller

Wolves get a decent return for expiring Butler, make a deeper roster and commit to KAT - Wiggins.

Teague/Rose/Jones
Bazemore/Brogdon/Okogie
Wiggins/Brown/Bates-Diop
Gibson/Tolliver/Maker
Towns/Dieng/Patton

Hawks get a former 1st pick and a future 2nd for bothering to downgrade from Bazemore to Snell.

Young/Lin
Snell/Huerter/Dorsey
Prince/Bembry/Anderson
Collins/Spellman/Wilson
Dedmon/Plumlee/Len

09 Aug 2018 17:19:20
Stop dumping crap like snell who is barely backup quality. Stop over exagerrating brogdan value who is good player. Brown wilson maker do hold that much value either to get you butler. Just be happy milwaukee has an nba team.

09 Aug 2018 18:00:42
Can't wait for your next Noah trade!

09 Aug 2018 19:25:48
Nice! shizzee knocking quality players as un-tradable, but does move Noah in deals.

09 Aug 2018 08:26:41
Cavs Timberwolves

Cavs receive
Wiggins
Dieng

Timberwolves receive
Hill
Clarkson
Korver
2021 first round protected top 10

09 Aug 2018 15:44:17
Oh the irony. the cavs pay a buttload for the downward spiral of loves career, but also take back wiggins once its been determined he is a horrible addition to a team and is paid a max.

Congrats, that would guarentee untradeable and awful players for years to come!

09 Aug 2018 15:44:43
U forgot 2019 1st add also teague jrsmith.

09 Aug 2018 17:02:47
I'm sure the championship trophy that Cleveland has that they wouldn't have without Love helps with their "overpay" of "the downward spiral of Love's career".

09 Aug 2018 17:36:59
A 3 year old trophy collecting dust is coming up with the 30 mil per season love costs for 3 years after this season? Love is un-trade-able now until that contract expires. You think deng and noahs' 18 mil is bad?

09 Aug 2018 17:57:42
Love had his best season in Cleveland last year and is an allstar. Comparing that contract to Deng or noah’s, 2 guys that have been essentially unplayable for there entire contracts, is ridiculous. That’s not even to mention that Deng and even more so Noah’s games were predictated on movement and hustle. While Love’s game is dependent on shooting, positioning, and strength. Hustle players tend to age poorly. Shooters typically have long careers.

09 Aug 2018 19:58:39
The cavs will be more than happy with love until 2022 I'm sure.

09 Aug 2018 20:55:51
Exactly what rkenne said. I'd pay an all star 30 million over a third stringer 17 million without hesitation. You can win a championship with Love as a top 3 option on a team (proven) .

Also, I understood the "pay a buttload for the downward spiral of loves career" statement as the last 3 years, not the future. If I get Kevin Love 3 years ago, and I make the finals 3 times and win one with him, I have zero regrets about that trade.

07 Aug 2018 01:22:48
Trade deadline possibility if Butler puts TWolves in a bad place and teams don't want to risk assets for half a season of Butler.

Thunder get Butler and Patton
T-Wolves get Schroder, Ferguson, Abrines, and 2 seconds
This trade would work I checked.

T-Wolves get a player that is still kinda young in Schroder that still hasn't reached his best, a good young prospect in Ferguson, a player to knock down 3's and improving at defense in Abrines, and 2 2nd round picks. This trade package is in the same ball park as what pacers got for George Schroder isn't quite oladipo and Ferguson might not be as imediate of a pay off as Sabonis but still has great potential. This is why I also threw in Abrines to make the money match and give them someone who can knock down the 3 and he has an expiring contract, I also added the 2 2nds to make it better. I know y'all are going to say no way they can get more, but everyone said that with George as well. And it depends on how bad of a spot Butler puts them in he could make it bad enough they just don't want to lose him for nothing but teams don't want to take a risk on him if he says he is entering FA.
Thunder do this because they can't make any big signings in FA unless they have bird rights to go over the luxury tax limit since they are already way over. They would have bird rights so they could sign Butler. Butler has said he wants to win and thunder is in a serious win now mode. Once Westbrook and Georges contract is up who knows what will happen and they are creeping closer and closer to older age. Thunder has a good core to build around now and this would give them better shooting and defense and a nice athletic big 3.
If this happened trade Singler for a filler at PG or PF no one good just a backup if absolutely needed. Then sign someone for the other position.

Thunder line up
Westbrook/ Felton/?
Butler/ TLC/ Diallo
George/ Roberson/ Nader
Grant/ Patterson/?
Adams/ Noel/ Patton
This team would make the conference finals.

07 Aug 2018 15:23:03
I would have to think that schroeder and wiggins would be the least efficient, worst shooting, and potentially worst defensive backcourt in the history of the nba. Not even exaggerating there. The wolves would be better letting butler walk than taking on schroeder.

08 Aug 2018 00:03:11
Pretty sure twolves let him walk before that deal nobody wants to pay them bums except okc.

06 Aug 2018 13:50:15
NY-NO
NO: T Hardaway+ 2rnd pick
NY: Hill+ Ajinca

NY- Wolves
Wolves: Ntilikina+ Knox+ Noah
NY: J Butler

2019 NY sings
K Leonard and Irving and resign J Butler

06 Aug 2018 18:15:11
Didn't know New York was in California!

06 Aug 2018 18:43:27
They want to play to getter in a big City
So they can do it in LA or NY.

06 Aug 2018 21:55:28
Gasupo 1st trade maybe, 2nd just hating on knicks plans.

07 Aug 2018 08:01:20
I get your point Shizzee, Knox and Ntilikina are going to be great.

But i saw on youtube a rumor the Nets would try to make a big three. K Leonard- Irving and Butler

The rumor suggested Leonard's uncle and Irving's manager know each other and were looking for a team, they could play together. Also Butler and Irving wanted to play together, so they consider Brooklyn as destination, unless the Knicks could make an offer to get them all.

07 Aug 2018 15:27:00
these are all just foolish rumors. Sorry, last time I checked, max level players make the decisions, not based off an uncle and manager chatting. This is foolish, knicks pass on that second trade, hard.

08 Aug 2018 00:07:56
So Ntilikina has shown nothing besides defense, Knox has played decent in summer league (wow) and Noah costs 2 1st rounders to get rid of and you wouldn’t trade that for butler?

08 Aug 2018 14:31:52
Knicks won't trade any rookie long term contracts, for a player they can sign in free agency.

03 Aug 2018 15:31:06
WITH OR WITHOUT JIMMY BUTLER (PT 2)

WITH- 3 team deal (Suns Raptors Wolves)

Suns-Trade T.J Warren Marquese Chriss
(Receive- Karl Anthony-Towns Alfonzo Mckinnie)

Raptors-Trade Kyle Lowry Alfonzo Mckinnie
(Receive- Jeff Teague Andrew Wiggins)

Wolves-Trade Kart Anthony-Towns Andrew Wiggins Jeff Teague
(Receive- T.J Warren Marquese Chriss Kyle Lowry Raptors and Suns picks)

Suns
Booker/ Knight
Jackson/ Daniels
Bridges/ Ariza
Towns/ Holmes
Ayton/ Chandler

Raptors
Teague/ Vanvleet
Leonard/ Wright
Wiggins/ Green
Ibaka/ Siakam
Valanciunas/ Monroe

Wolves
Lowry/ Jones
Butler/ Rose
Warren/ Crawford
Gibson/ Chriss
Dieng/ Tolliver

03 Aug 2018 15:51:09
I just don’t get any trade where Minnesota picks to trade Towns. Even if the Suns were to offer Ayton and Booker, I’m not sure they do it.

03 Aug 2018 17:32:25
Jackson and 1st should do it.

03 Aug 2018 18:52:52
How does Phoenix receive KAT while only giving up Warren and Chriss?

This is a terrible deal for them, big no from Wolves.

04 Aug 2018 00:52:46
You forgot to add booker and leonard to Minnesota.

03 Aug 2018 09:28:42
MIN-BKN

MIN: D'Angelo Russell, Demarre Carroll (exp), Allen Crabbe & 2nd round picks

Russell-Rose-Jones
Crabbe-Okogie
Wiggins-Carroll
Gibson-Patton
Towns-Dieng

BKN: Jimmy Butler & Jeff Teague

Teague-Napier
Dinwiddie-LeVert
Butler-Harris
RHJ-Faried
Allen-Davis

03 Aug 2018 15:05:00
Nowhere near enough for Butler/ Teague.

04 Aug 2018 00:56:05
Wow this sites getting worse! I didn’t know you could out do shizzee! I’m ya have a brain please use it.

02 Aug 2018 20:54:15
Knicks and Twolves

TWolves get
Hardaway
Lee
Thomas
2nd rd pick
Knicks get

Butler

Taj Gibson

02 Aug 2018 21:27:24
Unlikely.

02 Aug 2018 21:42:58
You'd have to include Knox for Butler. A bunch of role players and a second rounder isn't getting an all star.

02 Aug 2018 23:45:21
Tyus Jones justin Patton and you can have rose back for Porzingis or would the wolves need to add a 2nd?

03 Aug 2018 01:26:43
Four dimes for a dollar.

03 Aug 2018 15:25:08
Are those even dimes?

31 Jul 2018 15:52:37
Knicks Future Plans

Timberwolves get Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Lance Thomas, and a Future 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Jimmy Butler

31 Jul 2018 16:02:35
Salaries are off by too much.

31 Jul 2018 16:06:24
The salary isn’t even close to working and there would be better offers than that for Butler. Minnesota would probably be better off just letting Butler walk than taking that deal.

31 Jul 2018 16:07:28
Btec, would you say it’s fair value other than the salaries not matching up? Also, would you take our Thomas or add a filler from Minnesota to make the salaries work?

31 Jul 2018 16:23:42
Easy route is to trade hardaway lee thomas seperately for expiring contract and sign butler next yr and keep pick.

31 Jul 2018 18:37:24
Definitely not enough for Butler. I can't see a deal that they land Butler that doesn't include Knox.

31 Jul 2018 19:35:41
Knox or porzingis gets butler. Sign butler with cap space next summer, tank and get a lottery pick, waive lee and noah, trade ntilikina and hardaway unless they have breakout seasons this year or show huge leaps in development. Butler is going to cost NY too much to acquire right now. With butler their pick has less value and chance of being a really good pick so hardaway, lee, kanter, noah are just NY boat anchors in a deal. Thomas is ok he can stay or go.

31 Jul 2018 19:49:59
That's horrible for the Timberwolves.

31 Jul 2018 20:09:41
It's so weird that Knicks fans still say "just sign him" when it comes to all star free agents. Who's the last person the Knicks got? Stat? That was forever ago, and he was damaged goods at that point.

I wouldn't rely on signing anyone if I'm the Knicks. They have to trade for an all star if they want one, then hope to resign them.

31 Jul 2018 20:34:46
I know bmiller66 isn't aiming that at me. I didn't write just sign him.

31 Jul 2018 23:22:49
Salaries are off by too much? No the stupidity of this trade is off by too much! Wow people think a little before ya post a dumb trade just think if you were the other team getting completely robbed of a allstar.

30 Jul 2018 01:30:53
Sixers/Twolves

Sixers get: Butler
Twolves get: Covington, Bayless, Shamet, Sixers unprotected #1 2019.

Thibs will love Covington. All NBA first team defense, plays hard, on a very team friendly contract. Shamet was a first Rd pick this year who's a decent combo guard who can flat out shoot the ball. Bayless is expiring and makes the salaries work. Plus Twolves get another #1 pick next year. Decent return for Butler who by most accounts is leaving next year anyway.
Sixers get a vet star who knows how to win, even if he's just a rental. May convince him to stay if he gels with Embiid and Simmons.

30 Jul 2018 05:50:46
Forgot to add Twolves aslo get sixers 2021 #1 pick.

27 Jul 2018 04:05:20
The Cavs get Wiggins and Dieng

The Timberwolves get Smith(buyout), Clarkson, Hood (3 years 30 million), Korver, and a future 2nd

27 Jul 2018 04:57:41
Lol Cavs fan.

28 Jul 2018 01:37:30
Wolves fan need to now butler is the keeper and wiggens and town soft players who don't defend.

28 Jul 2018 04:18:35
Good trade👍🏾.

24 Jul 2018 16:53:17
The Timberwolves get Ingles, Crowder, Allen, and a 2019 Utah 1st

The Jazz get Butler

24 Jul 2018 17:16:07
I wouldn't do it if I was the jazz. Not sure about butler but I imagine at his age Utah isn't his first choice.

24 Jul 2018 23:21:27
His age? You mean his prime! Dam people on here need to watch other teams or get educated on basketball.

25 Jul 2018 00:44:31
Right made, it’s not like your getting an early 20s two way wing. Utah is. Really good team that needs a big move to move into that never teir of teams. The NBA moves fast. If you can make a move to get in to championship contention, you need to do it. Look at good young teams like OKC, Chicago, Portland and Indiana recently that looked like they would have million chances and it all fell apart in a hurry. That could happen to anyone. Gobert or Mitchell could blow out their knee and never be the same for the Jazz. Irving could walk from the Celtics and Horford could fall off. Embiid could destroy his back for Philly. None of these teams have any guarantee past what they currently have. Even the Warriors, next year Curry could destroy his ankle, KD could walk, and Green could just Fade into obscurity. Butler is in his prime and probably has 3 or 4 years left at that level. You can get him cheap because he only has a year left on his deal. Eventually you’ll either have to get lucky again or take risk and teams don’t get lucky often.

25 Jul 2018 17:00:54
It's in Utah ever been?

24 Jul 2018 16:26:06
I am not a Lakers, Wolves, or hornets fan I just want to get in on the try to make Lakers a dynasty kick everyone has been on. so I would like to think this is an unbiased trade and it is a good one but let me know what y'all think.

Lakers get Butler and Taj Gibson expiring

Wolves get Kuzma, Ball, Hart, Deng and a couple of 2nd round picks if need be.

Then Lakers make a trade package that will work financually involving Ingram to get walker from hornets

Lakers lineup
Walker/ Rondo
KCP/ Stephenson
Butler/ Beasley
LeBron/ Gibson
McGee/ Wagner
And then after those fill in the other 5 spots like I said I'm not a Lakers fan so I don't know every player on the team and their positions.

I think Butler would stay he wants to win Lakers want to win. Lakers will also have byrd rights so they can offer him a larger contract. If they can get Kawhi to commit they wouldn't be able to afford signing walker, Butler, and Kawhi unless someone takes a pay cut so they let walker go and sign Kawhi and Butler or let Butler go and sign Walker and Kawhi. They then have Butler Kawhi and LeBron or walker Kawhi and Lebron that is a good big 3 either way if you ask me put cheap good roll players around them they could be very competitive in the west.

24 Jul 2018 23:27:02
Minnesota can’t handle lavar I’m from there they would riot! Ingram or notta.

24 Jul 2018 14:00:47
The Cavs get Turner, Dieng, Gibson(buyout), Collins, the Portland 2019 and 2021 1sts, and the Timberwolves 2021 1st

The Timberwolves get Love, Clarkson, Korver and a Portland 2nd plus save roughly 5 million

The Blazers get Butler and Nance

24 Jul 2018 16:43:19
This is a really bad trade for the blazers. The Cavs make out like bandits while trading Kevin Love. This is pretty lopsided and why we haven't seen guys like parsons deng, noah, turner dealt because they cost their teams more than their bad salaries to trade them away.

24 Jul 2018 17:03:10
Not after his extension lmao.

24 Jul 2018 18:11:01
It might be a little rich, but the Cavs take on 2 bad contracts, Love has value, Nance has value, and Korver has a little value still. You’d want atleast a 1st for Love and probably a little more, atleast a 1st for taking on Turner, possibly a first for taking on dieng, a 1st or a couple 2nds for Nance, a 2nd or 2 for Korver and dealing Clarkson might ding you a little. I don’t think it’s to ridiculous an evaluation of value.

24 Jul 2018 18:55:22
At 30 mil for what love does? Draymond Green now makes half as much and probably won't make as much next season and he's the better player. That blazers first could be lottery next season. It's a blazer front office move though. They have sucked throughout the years. Small windows of good management but that's about it.

24 Jul 2018 07:41:54
Unlikely trade to happen, but would be amazing:

Twolves receive: Morris, Brown, Yabusele, Purvis, Ojeleye, Theis, 2x '19 1st (Bos & Clip)
Boston: Butler

Twolves get some good pieces to help contend this year and in the future for a player that will leave at the end of the year.

Boston can start; Irving, Butler, Tatum, Hayward, Horford. With Rozier, Smart, Baynes off the bench.

Also after the season would still have assets to throw at the Pels for Davis (Horford & 3-5 firsts)

24 Jul 2018 07:53:17
I like this trade for Boston talentwise.
But is Boston able to keep Butler after next year. He would want a max contract.

24 Jul 2018 11:07:37
Seriously? All that for Butler? Not a chance in Hell. Brown is as good as Butler, if not better. Take Brown out and still would be too much, since Butler can walk at the end of the year. What are you people thinking. Wow.

24 Jul 2018 11:35:45
JoeB - did you just say Brown is better than an all NBA player and all NBA defensive player?

24 Jul 2018 13:05:38
Unlikely to happen. Then why post? If a trade doesn't even pass the posters' realistic test--why share?

24 Jul 2018 14:45:40
Every trade is unrealistic to just about everyone that reads the post. Heck, some even agree and still click unbelievable just because.


But way too much for Butler! Plus don't need Butler, need a lights out shooter for the bench.

24 Jul 2018 16:47:32
The all nba, mvp, and others are glam awards I don't pay attention to. Lillard made all nba. There are many SG's butler is one, who are better than lillard.

24 Jul 2018 18:14:27
I agree that Brown is just as good a guy to have as Butler. If you look at their stats, other than point totals, Brown is already on Butler's level. I feel like people just look at the PPG difference, and leave it at that, but Brown had a better 3pt% and 2pt% this season than Butler has had in his entire career. If he can bring his free throw % up, he should have a better FG% as well since Butler has only bested Brown's FG% this season twice.

When you look at the Asst per game and rebounds per game, Butler's numbers are higher, but it gets a lot more interesting if you look at the advanced stats. The only category that Butler is far and away better is asst%.

Add to all this that Butler is about to turn 29 with 7 seasons under his belt at a contract of $18 Mil with however much you'd have to pay him in FA next season, and Brown is turning 22 the month after with only two seasons under his belt at a cost of 5-8 Mil over the next three seasons before hitting restricted FA. I'm taking Brown.

24 Jul 2018 23:40:53
Put brown on any other team and he his not that good same as Draymond you Boston fans are the scrubs of nba have fun getting whooped every year by the warriors! Browns as good as butler was the funniest thing I’ve seen all day.

23 Jul 2018 09:39:08
If Butler gets traded before the deadline, do you think Minnesota blows it up once again? I think they will.

Celtics get Towns
Wolves get Brown, Rozier. Clippers pick and Grizzlies pick.

23 Jul 2018 10:14:23
As much as I'd love that, I think Towns is the one you rebuild around.

23 Jul 2018 14:05:28
I don't think that's nearly enough. Brown is a special guy, I think, but Towns is a special big man, which is something else entirely, and he's also young. There aren't many players I would move Brown for, and I've said on here many times I wouldn't move him for Leonard, but Towns (and also Davis) is someone I would. Davis is trickier than Towns because of the current contracts, and the players that would need to be moved. A Brown/ Rozier package would work as a start to bring in Towns, while one of the other big guns would have to be sent to New Orleans.

23 Jul 2018 18:16:58
Too early to call with wolves. Towns was atrocious in the playoffs. A big man who can't post up? Kind of the easiest thing to do as center. If butler leaves towns and Wiggins have a long way to go in their development. Wolves will be lottery for a couple seasons.

23 Jul 2018 22:39:48
You have to add Tatum to any deal involving towns/ Davis they’re to good to young and finding bigs that good is much harder then finding a pretty good sg/ sf I like brown a lot but he is nothing great y’all act like he’s a superstar which he’s not so honestly I doubt either end up in Boston ever.

23 Jul 2018 03:03:53
The Wolves get McCollum and Harkless

The Blazers get Butler, Gibson, and Jones

22 Jul 2018 17:30:49
The Timberwolves get Hill, Moore, Ajinca(expiring), Randle, Jackson, NOs 2019 pick, 2021 pick (top 10 protected), and the 2023 pick (lottery protected and converts to 2 2nds after 2 years)

The Pelicans get Butler and Teague

The Timberwolves fire Thibs and move to building around their youth with a coach that can better manage their young core. They get out of Teagues contract, add some more young talent, and a nice stash of picks.

The Pelicans move to go all in on Davis. Holiday was at his best playing more of a combo guard role with Rondo being the true pg. They also add the wing they need and they have a team that could be elite defensively and that offensively can score with anyone. They would need to cobble together a bench, but they would probably be a premier destination for guys comine off buyouts.

22 Jul 2018 20:12:14
So the wolves give up the two best players and get, nothing?

22 Jul 2018 21:07:15
They save money, get out of teagues contract, get 3 1sts, an ok prospect in Jackson, a decent player in Moore, and who knows what Hill is. What more would you want for a possible rental that's been disruptive at his past 2 stops and a slightly overpaid guy in Teague. It's less than the Timberwolves paid for him, but Chicago was negotiating from a better place. They had him for 2 years and he didn't seem unhappy there.

Maybe you could replace Hill with Mirotic? But I think if that was done New Orleans passes. Maybe only protecting the last pick would help? From my poin of view, it seems like a solid return for Butler under the circumstances.

22 Jul 2018 16:49:20
Let`s assume, the Mavs roster works fine. And it will, DJ will dominate in the middle and Doncic was the Europe MVP! He is a ready Player that will have Impact. With DSJ, Doncic, Wes, Barnes, Dirk, DK there are already the players and when the chemistry fits they may battle for the 5th!
Let`s assume Brunson is a steal as well an the great PG with a lot of potential.
Let´s finally Wolves have the same Team as last year and still the missing and battle for 8 to 10 spot. Having Towns and Wiggins Brunson may be a good young complement!

To see the Mavs back battle for the Thing let`s see assume this trade in Feb:

Wolves
- Wes
- Brunson
- A 1st pick
Mavs:
- Butler
- Rose

NICE! ; )

22 Jul 2018 19:18:01
The assumption rule applies.

22 Jul 2018 21:12:21
Mathew will get you a tim hardaway talent bc it is expiring, that 1st won't be higher 20th. Brunson is nowhere near the talent of a bad knee Rose. So what are you really offering?

23 Jul 2018 00:15:08
A 1st pick!

Butler can sign in 2019 as a FA (He can opt out and Mavs have the cap) . In Dallas he could the "THE" player in a really good Team with all around he needs to win (playmaking, shooting, rim Player) and not a complement to LeBron or to the Boston players.

 
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