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12 Oct 2018 13:26:55
The Warriors get Butler.

The Timberwolves get Igoudola, looney (or young player of choice not named bell), and 2 1sts

The Warriors rap up the championship and give themselves Durant insurance.

12 Oct 2018 15:39:29
No! Wolves declined that deal I rather Trade him to Rockets or Thunder to Challenge the Warriors.

12 Oct 2018 19:04:59
I don’t want Butler to go to the Warriors and it doesn’t sound like he will, but that would be a pretty competitive package. Also, it would be the best collection of talent ever assembled.

12 Oct 2018 23:48:21
The warriors would not be beaten unless there were multiple injuries with butler.

11 Oct 2018 18:13:08
TWolves- Richardson, Olynyk, Cauley-Stein

Heat- Butler

Kings- Dieng, Protected 1st (via Miami)

12 Oct 2018 00:03:09
3 yrs of starter salary for the 10-12th man off the bench is worth a lottery projected pick.

11 Oct 2018 17:08:31
Knicks Future Moves

Trade

Timberwolves get Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Lance Thomas, and their 2020 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Jimmy Butler

Play out the 2018-2019 season.

Waive Joakim Noah

Free Agency

Sign Kevin Durant to a Max Contract

Sign Kyrie Irving to a Max Contract

Resign Jimmy Butler to a Max Contract

Resign Kristaps Porzingis to a Max Contract

Sign Jamal Crawford to a veteran's minimum contract

Sign Zach Randolph to a veteran's minimum contract

Sign Al Jefferson to a veteran's minimum contract

Sign Joe Johnson to a veteran's minimum contract


2019-2020 Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Irving
SG Butler
SF Durant
PF Knox
C Porzingis

Bench

PG Ntilikina
PG Burke
PG Mudiay
SG Crawford
SF Johnson
PF Randolph
PF Jefferson
C Robinson

11 Oct 2018 17:48:42
Welllllll, seeing as a max contract ranges from I believe 25%_35% of the cap, 4 max contracts would bring that to about 110% of the cap. Sounds like a good starting point lol.

11 Oct 2018 17:53:38
4 max contracts? WOW. You can take Irving out of the mix. Probably Durant, too. Down to two, IF they can acquire Butler. maybe maybe not. Now your down to one Max. Which is more likely unless Porzingis doesn't want to be in NY anymore.

11 Oct 2018 23:54:38
In this situation it's doable. After all trades and season Knicks well have about 64 mill in cap so it can work Butler bird rights will only take up 22 mil and they can give Irving and Durant 32 each or at least 30 each. Go over cap to resign Butler and prozingis.

12 Oct 2018 10:25:43
Ya just max everybody don’t have a bench hire Thibodeau when he's fired. really well thought out I like it.

11 Oct 2018 14:51:47
Minnesota gets Smith, Korver, Chandler, and Philly's 2019 1st

The Cavs get Bayless(exp) and 2 Philly 2nds

The 76ers get Butler

11 Oct 2018 12:10:29
MINNESOTA - DETROIT

Butler and Dieng for Drummond, Stanley Johnson and Kennard.

11 Oct 2018 12:41:14
It feels like to much at this point. Minnesota’s position got significantly worse yesterday.

16 Oct 2018 23:33:46
I rly doubt Detroit would do this without commitment from butler which i doubt would happen.

11 Oct 2018 07:45:51
Wolves send Jimmy Butler,
Suns send Josh Jackson and Tyson Chandler

So I think the Wolves take this in a heartbeat, it’s really a question of would the Suns try to speed up there window for Jimmy. I think Jimmy would work great with Booker as it would be two part time ball handlers who compliment each other really well. Booker provides elite spacing, Jimmy provides slashing and defense. The Suns line up would be:
Booker
Jimmy
Ariza
Ryan Anderson
Ayton.

They could even match up with the Warriors line up of death better than most with one change.

Jimmy/ Steph
Mikal Bridges/ Klay
Booker/ Iggy
Ariza/ Durant
Ayton/ Draymond

Those are 2 line ups with a lot of spacing for Jimmy and Ayton.

11 Oct 2018 16:57:36
I like it. One of the more believable trades I have seen for Butler. Only problem is PHO not one of the teams Butler wants to play for. PHO would want to get a feel for his willingness to re-sign.

Wolves might ask for a draft pick. If Butler agrees to re-sign, it would be worth a 2021 or 2022 1st as well.

11 Oct 2018 22:24:03
ahhh perfect cause booker and Ayton are known to be so much better at defense then kat and Wiggins! Pretty sure jimmy would destroy the young suns team before he got on on the plane there.

11 Oct 2018 00:54:00
TWolves- Richardson, Dragic, Winslow

Heat- Butler, Dieng, Jones

Possibly a protected first going to TWolves (via Miami)

What do you think?

11 Oct 2018 01:17:20
I think it's too much to the wolves. The Dieng contract drags down the wolves trade package too much. Definitely no draft pick from Miami if this is their offer to the wolves.

11 Oct 2018 03:21:29
I think it's too much for Butler and Diengs terrible contract. Maybe 2 months ago, but not now. Miami passes big time.

10 Oct 2018 12:39:05
Miami gets Jimmy Butler

Minnesota gets Josh Richardson, Justice Winslow with a signed extension, and a 2019 lottery protected 1st
Winslow extension will be in the 7-9 million range
Minnesota will save about 3 million in salary and will put them under the hard cap

10 Oct 2018 13:49:49
Winslow will get more than that, probably looking at $11-$13M a year. Still works though salary wise.

Looks like Minny wants multiple picks though, probably need to add at least an unprotected 2nd, if not another protected first.

10 Oct 2018 19:18:13
I don't understand why Miami wants Butler so badly, especially if they would have to give up Richardson AND a guy like Winslow. Butler doesn't make a team on his own. That's been proven in two stops, and he's had better talent around him both places than he would in Miami. You'd be getting rid of the guys you would hope to ADD Butler TO in order to get him, and they're likely shipping off picks which are their only route to getting talent on the cheap to bolster the team.

I like Butler a lot, but he's not a LeBron/ Durant type player who makes you a contender on his own.

09 Oct 2018 06:48:05
Kings send: '23 2nd (won't convey)
Receive: Nene (buyout/waive), 3m cash, '20 2nd
Get a 2nd for using their cap space.

Twolves send: Butler
Receive: Gordon, Qi, '20 & '22 1st, '19 2nd, '23 2nd
Get a couple of firsts, a starting calibre SG and a couple of other small assets for Butler.

Rockets send: Gordon, Nene, Qi, '20 & '22 1st, '19 & '20 2nd, 3m cash
Receive: Butler

PG: Paul, Knight
SG: Harden, Green
SF: Butler, Ennis
PF: Tucker, Melo
C: Capella, Chriss

08 Oct 2018 23:28:37
Suns:
- Brunson
- Macon

Mavs:
- Bender
- Reed

Brunson is a promising player, at least NBA ready. Since Mavs have Smith and Barea they use his current project to sned him to Suns, since they miss hardly a PG.

Since Wolves ask for too much. If the team plays well, Mavs can try to sign Butler next year anyway.


Mavs should focus on Reed and Bender. Both will see not much minutes in Phonix with the arrival of Ayton Bridges. But Reed may be a backup for Wes and Bender may found a mentor on Dirk. Mavs would have some size since Bender is mobil and can score from everywhere but also protect inside.


DJ, Powell
Barnes, Dirk, Bender
Doncic, Barnes
Wes, Doncic, Reed
DSJ, Barea

Harris, Broekhoff, Smith, Kleber, Mejri

08 Oct 2018 15:20:43
MIL - MIN - BOS

Bucks get Butler
Minny gets Bledsoe, Brogdon, Morris
Boston gets Wilson

The main idea is Butler for Bledsoe and Brogdon, which is not bad for the Wolves given the offers they have. In this Minnesota gain one more decent asset.

Celtics do this of course to avoid the tax. They give their 15th spot to a former 1st round pick to find out if there is NBA material in him.

Milwaukee could slide DDV into starting lineup after that. They will still have Delly for backup help at pg. Bucks should be OK if Minny asks to add Dieng and Henson in the deal.

08 Oct 2018 17:38:38
The Bucks would need to add a 1st rd pick, Plus Bledsoe and Brogdan. Why would Boston want to trade Morris for "Unproven" Wilson? Henson has no value, And why would DDV slide into the starting lineup? They could just add one of their other PG (Frazier? )

08 Oct 2018 18:31:39
@torque I think it's clear that Boston could do this only to avoid being in repeated tax next year. Of course not for Wilson.
And really, Frazier?

08 Oct 2018 22:57:00
@milpso, Yes Tim Frazier, Again, Boston would say no, And the wolves would want at least a 1st. rd. pick, plus players. We all know the Bucks rejected Butler for Middleton.

08 Oct 2018 14:56:31
New Butler trade idea.

Minnesota gets Richardson, Tyler Johnson, and Koufos.
Miami gets Butler
Sacramento gets Dieng, Miami's 2019 1st, and Miami's 2019 2nd (which Minnesota owns).

08 Oct 2018 15:00:21
It just doesn’t feel like enough for Butler.

08 Oct 2018 16:08:31
More then enough especially because heat have no cap to sign him.

08 Oct 2018 16:30:16
LL, The fact that the Heat can’t sign him ups his value in a trade for the Heat. I’m not sure what you’re inferring. Koufos has no value, Tyler Johnson has almost as much negative value as Dieng and Richardson is solid, but he’s not some kind of elite prospect.

08 Oct 2018 16:36:38
Personally, I think one of the sticking points is the Heat don't want to take on Dieng, but want Minnesota to take on Waiters along with giving Minnesota Richardson and a 1st. However, Minnesota doesn't want both Dieng and Waiters for 3 more years, so they want Miami to give up another 1st for a 3rd team to take on Dieng.

08 Oct 2018 18:31:40
HAHAHA, I love ll. that comment is indicative of his overall basketball knowledge.

09 Oct 2018 01:44:37
You got to look at it this wayy. Wolves are off loading dieing 3 years contract which is bad due to fact it has 3 years. and getting two solid players.

08 Oct 2018 03:12:07
Heat receive: Butler
Send: Richardson, Winslow, Bam, '19 & '20 2nd
Get the star for their roster and don't have to take on Dieng

Twolves receive: Richardson, Winslow, Bam, Shumpert
Send: Butler, Dieng, Jones
Bring in 3 players who fit their time line and a vet wing.

Kings receive: Dieng, Bucks 1st, '20 2nd
Send: Shumpert
Get a couple of picks for their cap space

Suns receive: Jones, '19 2nd
Send: Bucks 1st
Get a young PG who could start

08 Oct 2018 14:26:11
No 1st for Teague but a 1st for Jones? I wouldn't pay that.

08 Oct 2018 00:30:25
Utah gets Butler

Minnesota gets Burks, Sefolosha, Allen, Utah 19 1st and a 2nd

08 Oct 2018 04:55:15
I think butler could win in Utah but I do t think he would stay.

08 Oct 2018 16:27:38
I have to agree with Btec, Utah could be really dangerous with Butler, but getting him to stay is the issue. A lineup of Mitchell, Butler, Ingles, Favors and Gobert with quality vets like Rubio and Crowder would be a top three seed and potentially the Warriors biggest threat in the West.

09 Oct 2018 00:18:38
It seems like he needs to be surrounded by like minded players and Utah’s team kind of fits that. He might be happy getting to play with guys that seem just as intense as he is. Plus, it’s hard to leave a good team and if they could get him for something like the package above it would probably be worth the gamble.

07 Oct 2018 16:54:32
The Knicks get Dieng and Butler

The Timberwolves get Lee, Hardaway, Ntilikina, and the Knicks 19 1st

07 Oct 2018 17:19:55
I like the trade. Nkilitina isn't going to have much value to the wolves with Teague, rose. Jones already there. Trade Jones to phoenix?

08 Oct 2018 14:45:32
I think you try to trade Teague, but with Thibs fighting for his job and running the front office, I’m not sure he’s willing to buy into developing young players rather than playing win now type guys.

07 Oct 2018 04:10:53
Simple trade.

Charlotte gets Wiggins and Minnesota gets Batum.

Charlotte gets a much younger player who can be their 2nd scorer next to Walker. Wiggins did very well when he was the 1st or 2nd option on offense, before Butler got to Minnesota. Plus, he could get some teaching from MJ and honestly, Wiggins needs a fresh start.

Minnesota gets a guy who does the little things very well. Minnesota needs a veteran player like that, since I don't think Thibs and his ex Bulls players last beyond this season. Batum's contract also ends two years earlier than Wiggins does.

07 Oct 2018 07:19:35
Hornets already have MKG, just drafted bridges. No need for more over paid player that batum, who can't shoot nor defend. Wiggens for Love makes more sense.

07 Oct 2018 14:42:13
What, what do disagree with, wiggens can shoot and defend or cavs can use young sf to build around or hornets don't need 3rd SF.

06 Oct 2018 00:07:24
New Orleans Pelicans get: Jimmy Butler

Minnesota Timberwolves get: Nikola Mirotic, E'Twaun Moore, and 2019 first-round pick non protected

Pels get a solid 3-4-5 combo with AD, Randle and Butler

Wolves get two ex-Bulls reunited w Thibo and a 1st

07 Oct 2018 17:28:57
I like this trade. The pick is going to be so late with butler in the mix the protection isn't needed. Unless davis goes down or something. I think Jackson or Bluiett would probably have to be thrown in too.

05 Oct 2018 23:54:21
Almost done deal

Butler for Harris

Dont know if Teague Dieng are included. But If I were the wolves, I would want. Because Wolves aren't asking for youth or pick with no gaurantee from Butler. Butler next to Leonard is nice tandem next yr. Wolves clear all the salaries and look to add 3rd star with Wiggens and Town.

Butler Teague Dieng
For
Harris Beverly Gortat L.Williams

06 Oct 2018 00:37:08
I think the clippers overpay here and would find a way to not take back Teague if possible.

06 Oct 2018 01:49:52
This is terrible for Minnesota. Not one long term prospect. They best player they get can walk for nothing. At least the Clippers can offer Butler more money than anybody.

06 Oct 2018 17:09:46
pretty sure clips have put harris off limits.

05 Oct 2018 19:40:37
Miami Heat: Tyus Jones, Jimmy Butler, Justin Patton;

Minn. Timberwolves: Dion Waiters, Josh Richardson, Bam Adebayo, first round pick 2019;

06 Oct 2018 17:11:25
feel like if heat were offering this, deal would be done already.

05 Oct 2018 16:17:35
The Lakers get Bam, Richardson, and a Heat 2nd

The Heat get Butler and Dieng

The Wolves get Ball, T Johnson, Wagner, Heat 1st, and a Lakers 1st.

05 Oct 2018 16:36:44
Wolves already making out by getting Ball, no need for the picks.

05 Oct 2018 17:09:35
Wolves asking for Bam + Richardson for Butler + Deing. No need to involve Lakers. Besides, Heat appear to have rejected that deal anyway.

05 Oct 2018 18:03:45
That is a really bad deal for the heat. Dieng is just to long lasting of a deal and 50 million dollars. To me fair value is bam, Richardson, for Butler, Dieng, 2019 1st. That's how far off I think values have been for an expiring contract and -$50 mil. Someone will pay more and also risk losing butler after the season if the kawhi Leonard situation plays again.

06 Oct 2018 01:29:31
It’s also a bad deal for T-Wolves. Only winner here is Lakers. No deal.

06 Oct 2018 17:13:06
heat have to get something from la for this to make more sense than a trade with just minn.

 
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