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21 Jul 2017 02:48:08
Minnesota-San Antonio-Indiana

TWolves acquire : L.Aldridge


Spurs acquire : G.Dieng + T.Young + 2nd from Minnesota


Pacers acquire : Cole Aldrich , Shabbaz Muhammad (s&t) + 1st round pick from Wolves + 2nd from Spurs


20 Jul 2017 11:34:33
Knicks Get: Wesley Matthews, Cole Aldrich, Devin Harris, 2019 Warriors 2nd (via Mavericks), 2021 Cavs 1st, 2023 Heat 2nd (via Mavericks)

Mavericks Get: Kevin Love

Cavaliers Get: Carmelo Anthony, 2018 Timberwolves 2nd

Timberwolves Get: Iman Shumpert

20 Jul 2017 12:00:57
Again and again, Cavs not going to deal Love for Melo.

20 Jul 2017 13:12:34
I don't know about that anymore USA. If LBJ really is unhappy about the team's current direction, and Gilbert wants to keep him in town long term, they may be willing to do something as drastic as move Love with Melo being the key piece coming back. I'm not saying they should, just that backs against the wall, it could happen.

20 Jul 2017 13:52:11
And mavs don't get love for that crap package.

20 Jul 2017 17:47:19
Triangle O, if Lebron wanted Melo for Love to happen, I think it would have been done a long time ago.

In this trade the Cavs give up the most valuable piece in Love and then add a 1st round pick to it (depending on the Lebron it could be a fairly valuable pick) . There is no way the Cavs give up all that even if there was competition for Melo, but with him only willing to go to Houston or Cleveland, why would the Cavs throw all that out for Melo. The Rockets are most likely offering a bad contract, either Ariza or expiring contracts, and what will be a late first or 2. Even if he would be willing to go to Portland, a bad contract would have to be involved.

If I'm the Cavs I'm offering Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Felder, Tavares, and the 21 first lottery protected. If that doesn't work o well.

18 Jul 2017 07:22:29

Knicks Receive: Andrew Wiggins and Gorgui Dieng

Wolves Receive: Carmelo Anthony

Knicks get a young player to potentially build around and a good young PF/C with range.

Wolves get a star to pair with Butler and Towns. This just might be enough to at least compete in the West.



MIN would have to sign some veteran minimum guys to fill out the bench behind Butler and Anthony.


Hardaway Jr./Lee

I think this really benefits both teams and it works salary wise in the ESPN Trade Machine.

18 Jul 2017 07:59:23
Nothing to see here. Next.

18 Jul 2017 09:14:18
What star would the Wolves be getting?

18 Jul 2017 09:54:59
Regardless of what everyone thinks of Anthony right now, he is a proven scorer. He can space the floor and would be a huge get for the Wolves. A team of Towns, Butler, and Anthony would fare a lot better over the next 2 years than the current roster construction. The Knicks have zero shot at getting back a talent better than Wiggins in a trade for Anthony. Not saying this trade would or even could happen but it works for both teams.

18 Jul 2017 12:03:47
Wiggins is the better offensive player at this point. This trade is mind numbingly terrible for Minnesota and Melo has no where near that value.

18 Jul 2017 12:07:21
Wiggins is already a 23 ppg scorer that doesn't play defense. why would the wolves want Carmelo Anthony. a career 24 ppg scorer who doesn't play defense.

18 Jul 2017 16:49:36
Supercollider-10 time All-star with career 25 ppg avg. You wouldn't consider that a star? You are a moron. Keep posting and show everybody how little you know!

18 Jul 2017 17:01:31
That's a terrible trade for the Wolves. However, I do like Melo's fit in Minnesota. Before the Butler trade, I was all about them moving pieces to get him. Wiggins is too much to give up though. If you were to replace Wiggins with Aldrich for the salaries and a pick or two for the substance, you're in the right ballpark. Dieng would fit very well with Porzingis, and he's young enough to grow with the kids on that squad. I don't think Hernangomez is a starting 5, but he's going to be a solid rotational big. Aldrich is literally filler, and you'll wind up with a late first rounder or two. I'm not sure they'll get much better.

The Wolves would be able to slot Melo right in at the 4, which is where he should be playing at this point in his career. He'd provide solid outside shooting which they could really use, and you'd have to worry about points coming from every position on the floor. Defense would be an issue, but Thibs and Butler seem to be strong enough personalities that they'd be able to pull everyone in, and Thibs would be able to scheme for their strengths.

18 Jul 2017 18:56:10
Why would minny do this?

Wiggings is going to be an All star soon and Dieng is a great defender. And both are under 25.

Why would they trade them for an aging SF, that's to slow to defend fast SFs and to light to defend PF.

18 Jul 2017 19:08:57
Carmelo Anthony USED to be a star, Wiggins actually put up more PPG than Anthony, Anthony probably wouldn't be an All-Star in the Western Conference anyways.

18 Jul 2017 19:43:13
Maple-Melo doesn't have to be All-star. If you watched Olympics you would have seen that Melo playing with talent is formidable. Does contribute a lot to winning basketball teams. Kareem was 3rd option on Lakers behind Magic and Worthy. He had lost a lot in his game-but big contributor to title runs. Melo, while not what he was is still proven scorer and could be enough to catapult team.

19 Jul 2017 12:21:20
Mitchsam- I agree that I think Melo would be a contributor on a winning team, giving up Andrew Wiggins is way to much for Melo. they got Jimmy Butler (an all-star currently in his prime) for Zach Lavine ( a great guy but still needs to recover from a serious injury) and Kris Dunn ( a point gaurd that isn't good), I'm not saying Melo isn't good by any means, but as of right now the Wolves have a younger, more athletic, more team friendly version of him in Andrew Wiggins.

14 Jul 2017 04:45:49

•Nets get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st
-Waive Cole Aldrich
-Sign Alex Len 3yr 22m
-Sign Brandon Rush 1yr minimum
PG: Russell, Whitehead, Dinwiddie
SG: Lin, Kilpatrick, Goodwin
SF: Carroll, LeVert, Rush
PF: RHJ, Booker, Nicholson
C: Len, Allen, Mozgov

•Twolves get Joe Harris, Quincy Acy, and a 2018 2nd
-Sign Arron Afflalo 1yr 3.2m
-Sign Isaiah Canaan 1yr minimum
PG: Teague, Jones, Canaan
SG: Wiggins, Crawford
SF: Butler, Afflalo, Harris
PF: Gibson, Bjelica, Acy
C: Towns, Dieng, Patton.

14 Jul 2017 12:43:41
If Minnesota wouldn't trade the OkC first for CJ Miles, whey aren't trading it for 3rd stringers.

12 Jul 2017 17:40:45

•Cavs get Kosta Koufos and 2018 Kings 2nd
-Sign Thabo Sefolosha 1yr minimum
PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Korver, Osman
SF: James, Sefolosha, Jefferson
PF: Love, Green, Frye
C: Thompson, Koufos, Tavares

•Twolves get Iman Shumpert and rights to Dom Pointer (via Cavs)
-Sign Aaron Brooks 1yr minimum
-Sign Anthony Morrow 1yr minimum
-Sign Mike Dunleavy 1yr minimum
-Sign Maurice Ndour 2yr minimum
PG: Teague, Jones, Brooks
SG: Wiggins, Crawford, Morrow
SF: Butler, Shumpert, Dunleavy
PF: Gibson, Bjelica, Ndour
C: Towns, Dieng, Patton

•Kings get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st (via Twolves)
PG: Hill, Fox, Mason
SG: Hield, Bogdanovic, Richardson
SF: Jackson, Carter, Temple
PF: Randolph, Labissiere, Giles
C: WCS, Papagiannis, Aldrich.

12 Jul 2017 19:22:49
While the Cavs could probably use a bigger defensive minded center, I don't think it's worth trading for one unless they can some how pull in one of the elite defensive centers in the league. First and foremost another star player in addition to the big 3 would be ideal, 2nd multiple long athletic defenders, 3rd someone who come off the bench and be a secondary ball handler (I hate the Calderon addition) and then maybe a bigger back up center. There isn't a team that can challenge them in the playoffs who has a center that is going to physically dominate the Cavs.

12 Jul 2017 19:31:50
Well now the Cavs can't sign Sefolosha. Maybe Mbah a Moute could work.

11 Jul 2017 20:51:09
Finishing the T Wolves offseason

Trade 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich to ATL for Bellinelli

Not sure if Payne is still on roster but waive/release him if he is
Sign Lawson, if too expensive sign Foye
Sign 2/3 of Sefelosha, Afflalo, Green to min.
Sign 1 of Bogut, Speights, Ezeli to min.

Teague, Jones, Lawson
Wiggins, Bellinelli, Afflalo
Butler, Sefelosha, Afflalo
Dieng, Gibson, Bjelica
Towns, Bogut, Patton

12 Jul 2017 01:27:48
Wolves already signed Crawford at SG backup
Green already signed with Cavs.

12 Jul 2017 02:49:19
Gerald Green, but forgot to put in Crawford my bad.

09 Jul 2017 11:19:08
3 more trades and 1 free agent signing the Pistons can do to get better

Pistons get:
PG J. Nelson
SF M. Miller
'18 2nd round pick (POR or SAC pick)
'20 2nd round pick (DEN pick: UP)

Nuggets get:
PG R. Jackson

Pistons get cheaper and add 2 future draft picks and add 2 veterans who can lead the Pistons with the younger players. Plus Nelson, played under SVG.

Nuggets get a PG who can play better then what they currently have and help them get better.

Pistons get:
PF N. Bjelica
'18 1st round pick (MIN: Top 10 protected)

Wolves get:
SG M. Gbinije
PF J. Leuer

Pistons get cheaper in this contract and add a 1st round pick next year which based on the recent signings for the Wolves, theyd moat likely be picking in the late teens.

Wolves add a young guard who if they choose to keep but if not just waive him. Plus they add Leuer who can help the Wolves and is even from Minnesota.

Pistons get:
SG N. Stauskas
C J. Okafor

76ers get:
SG K. Pope
'18 1st round pick (DET: Right to swap)

Pistons add depth with Stauskas who can help in the 3 point shooting area and Okafor who can move to PF and form a good duo with Drummond in the front court. He can even potentially replace Drummond if they choose to trade him.

76ers add Pope who was recently linked to the 76ers and form a good young lineup of (Fultz-Pope-Covington/Saric-Simmons-Embiid) and help in the long run for the team and the pick they get is a right to swap with the Pistons pick and 76ers pick and if they choose not to swap then, the rights would be extinguished.

(Free Agent)
SG James Young
4 years $10,000,000
Yr 1) $1,000,000...100% guaranteed
Yr 2) $2,000,000...50% guaranteed
Yr 3) $3,000,000...0% guaranteed
Yr 4) $4,000,000...0% guaranteed

Yrs 3 would then become 50% guaranteed if the Pistons give Young the 2nd year as 100% guaranteed. But Young can opt out after yr 2 depending on playing time levels.

Young adds athleticism and just hasn't shown it much but going to the Pistons can hell him ease into it as he is from Detroit.


PG: A. Bradley - I. Smith - J. Nelson
SG: L. Kennard - L. Galloway - N. Stauskas
SF: T. Harris - S. Johnson - M. Miller/J. Young
PF: J. Okafor - N. Bjelica - H. Ellenson
C: A. Drummond - B. Marjanovic - E. Moreland

Bradley moves to PG while Okafor also moves to PF. If they want to give Kennard playing time then this is what they do but if they choose to not to then Bradley goes to SG while Galloway to PG with Smith starting

09 Jul 2017 12:12:41
Minnesota's 2018 1st goes to Atlanta and they don't have the cap space to do that.

09 Jul 2017 14:07:15
If your a Pistons fan I'm sure you know how bad Jackson was this past season. I don't think Pistons can get rid of him that easily even to a pg needy team like Nuggets. Do Nuggets even have enough cap space to take on his big contract after Millsap signing?

In 2nd trade nothing Pistons are giving up is remotely worth a 1st rounder. Leuer isn't that good and has a decently sized contract that I think Pistons would have to give up assets to move.

In 3rd trade I'm assuming 76ers have enough cap space to sign Pope outright (otherwise they likely wouldn't even be able to do the trade since Stauskas and Okafor don't make that much) so swap rights for the two is pretty bad value. Okafor would make a crappy pf next to Drummond especially in today's nba.

09 Jul 2017 14:21:44
The 1st trade doesn't work. The Nuggets take on to much salary and I doubt there is much interest in Jackson around the league.

The Timberwolves need to give up about 8 million more to make the salaries work in the trade and they already have two solid pfs. I don't see why they would want to give up a 1st for Leuer.

Detroit waived the rights to Caldwell Pope. They can't even sign and trade him.

Okafor at pf would be a disaster. He isn't atheltic enough to guard other centers. He would get torched at pf and I doubt Bradley can be an effective starting pg. He isn't a great ball handler or passer. He's at his best playing off the ball spreading the floor.

09 Jul 2017 02:28:04
Some trades to improve the Timberwolves:
Tell me which are good and the most realistic

1. Twolves-Nets
Twolves get Justin Hamilton and Joe Harris
Nets get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st

2. Twolves-Knicks
Twolves get Lance Thomas and 2018 2nd
Knicks get Cole Aldrich and 2018 OKC 1st

3. Twolves-Suns
Twolves get Jared Dudley and 2018 2nd
Suns get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st

4. Twolves-Kings
Twolves get Garrett Temple and 2018 2nd
Kings get Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st.

09 Jul 2017 05:05:14
Don't like the first 3. 4th better.

09 Jul 2017 14:06:47
1st done can't get done. Hamilton in T. O.

09 Jul 2017 14:08:47
#1 can't happen now. Raptors traded D Carrol. future 1 and 2nd rounder's for Hamilton. Brooklyn hasn't learned about not trading 1st rounder's yet.

I think after signing Crawford the Wolves are going to cool it for a bit, they've been very busy this off season.

08 Jul 2017 14:17:34

Sixers get:least favorable of Twolves/Clippers protected 2018 1st via Hawks

Hawks get: Okafor, Stauskas.

Okafor is 21 and stauskas is 23. Both young guys in positions of need for Atlanta. With Howard gone, the only center is plumlee. With THJ signing a ridiculous contract with NY, a sg is also needed. Both in last guranteed year of contracts. Okafor makes 4.8 and stauskas 3.7. Worth a one year trial for hawks where they both could see considerable increase in playing time and production. Sixers get a late protected 1st in return.

08 Jul 2017 14:51:37
I think the sixers see higher value in the 2 players and won't accept. Stauskas is a good 2nd/ 3rd sg and Okafor gets some time to develop behind Embiid and Holmes. Both could get really good bench players. Sixers might accept it if you take out stauskas.

06 Jul 2017 21:25:38
Timberwolves reportedly interested in Jamal Crawford


Aldrich OKC 1st for Crawford

Timberwolves get a 6th man scorer and dump Aldrich. Hawks get another first rounder next year.

06 Jul 2017 22:52:30
Or Minnesota can wait until Crawford gets bought out.

06 Jul 2017 17:12:35
Cleveland Cavs Moves

-Trade Iman Shumpert and rights to Dom Pointer to Minnesota for Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st

-Trade Cole Aldrich and OKC 2018 1st to Sacramento for Kosta Koufos and 2018 2nd

-Bring over Cedi Osman
-Sign Thabo Sefolosha 1yr 3.5m
-Sign James Young 2yr minimum

PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Korver, Young
SF: James, Sefolosha, Osman
PF: Love, Jefferson, Frye
C: Thompson, Koufos, Tavares.

05 Jul 2017 15:06:45
Instead of Minnesota trading Aldrich and the OKC first to Indiana in a sign and trade for Miles, they should try to trade Aldrich to Atlanta.

Minnesota would get a protected future 2nd round pick

Atlanta gets Aldrich, Miami's 2019 2nd round pick, and Minnesota removes the lottery protection on the 2018 1st they owe Atlanta.

Minnesota gets cap space to sign Miles outright and keep that 2018 OKC 1st
Atlanta takes a chance on Minnesota missing the playoffs in loaded West while also getting a future 2nd round pick.

05 Jul 2017 17:24:54
I don't think that's worth it for the Hawks since Minnesota will probably make the playoffs anyway, so the pick would convey, and that second round pick isn't enough to take on Aldrich.

05 Jul 2017 18:49:36
Doesn't Minnesota get a $14 million trade exemption from the Ricky Rubio trade. Why can't they use that to do a sign and trade for CJ Miles and send Indiana a second round pick?

05 Jul 2017 22:03:11
ILD. I asked that to. I guess it's because Minnesota was under the cap so they didn't get a trade exception.

05 Jul 2017 19:48:12
Or just get miles because they need 3 point shooting. another great trade carl you are brilliant.

05 Jul 2017 13:58:03
Timberwolves: Need Shooting

Trade: Aldrich and 1st to anyone willing to eat the cap space

Sign: G. Milos Teodosic 2-16mill.
F-C Anthony Tolliver Vet Min.


03 Jul 2017 17:32:52
Minnesota Twolves Moves

-Trade Cole Aldrich, OKC 2018 1st, to Sacramento for Garrett Temple and 2018 2nd

-Sign Arron Afflalo 1yr MLE
-Sign Mike Dunleavy 1yr minimum
-Sign Isaiah Canaan 1yr minimum
-Sign Randy Foye 1yr minimum

PG: Teague, Jones, Canaan
SG: Wiggins, Temple, Foye
SF: Butler, Afflalo, Dunleavy
PF: Dieng, Bjelica, Oliver
C: Towns, Gibson, Patton.

03 Jul 2017 18:32:08
Still hoping for CJ Miles.

03 Jul 2017 05:43:50

Belinelli, 2018 2nd for Aldrich, OKC 2018 first.

Hawks get a draft pick to help with rebuild. Gives them 3 firsts next season. Wolves get rid of two years of Aldrich and get a shooter to come off the bench in Belinelli.

03 Jul 2017 07:03:49
This is actually not bad.

Only thing is I don't think MIN gives up the OKC first, seeing as that, more than likely, they will loose their own first to the same team next year.

03 Jul 2017 05:22:27
Sacramento Kings Moves

-Trade Garrett Temple and 2018 2nd to Minnesota for Cole Aldrich (waived) and OKC 2018 1st

-Sign Jonathon Simmons 3yr 41m
-Sign Danilo Gallinari 2yr 51m
-Sign Jan Vesely 1yr 5m
-Sign Norris Cole 1yr 3m

PG: Fox, Mason, Cole
SG: Hield, Bogdanovic, Richardson
SF: Simmons, Jackson, Vesely
PF: Gallinari, Labissiere, Giles
C: WCS, Papagiannis, Koufos.

02 Jul 2017 16:13:23

Sixers off to a very good start of the off season.

1. Drafted Fultz
2. Brought Korkmaz over
3. Signed Redick(one year deal is awesome, had cap to burn and weren't getting any superstar fa's. Great move).
4. Signed vet pf(would have preferred patterson, but Amir johnson on a one year deal is fine).
5. Let Henderson and Rodriguez go. Actually got a 2nd rounder for Long(who i suggested they just cut).
6. Used later picks for Euro stashes.
Hmmm. Thus list looks familiar.

Anyway, still need to try and unload Okafor. How about...

Sixers get: Twolves 2018 #1 (protected 1-14) via Hawks.
Hawks get: Okafor, Knicks 2018 #2.

02 Jul 2017 17:07:28
They almost did a sign and trade for Amir Johnson to dump Okafor. I assumed they could get a protected 1st out of him, but I'm starting to think a few seconds or a Euro stash might be more realistic.

02 Jul 2017 17:30:37
rkenne16: I've heard conflicting reports with the possible sign and trade for Amir Johnson. Some reports called it a straigjt up deal, others had a late future 1st from Bostons stash involved. Eother way, it didn't happen.

02 Jul 2017 18:53:27
Nobody wants okay or. He has no trade value, they tried to give him away and couldn't get read of him.

03 Jul 2017 00:58:00
Still a lotto team Simmons and embiid will probably play combined 42 games fultz is another guy from a loser team like Simmons and okafor is a joke, philly is a joke.

03 Jul 2017 01:32:38
Jvoug1 you used the right word in your proposal, "unload". Other team's decision makers value Okafor the same as you. as an "unload". Why would anybody give a 1st rd. pick for an "unload" or reject from another team that won 28 games?

03 Jul 2017 01:52:41
Madeindade, Philly is putting together a nice team and if healthy will have a solid chance to make the playoffs. Without Simmons, Fultz, and Reddick, when Embiid was healthy they looked like a team that had a shot to make the playoffs. Obviously, the team is super young and things could go either way, but the future looks bright.

03 Jul 2017 04:43:23
Johnson can start on this team if Embiid goes down. Also reddick can carry the offense when things slow down a little in the half court. This could be a scary team if they stay healthy.

01 Jul 2017 22:51:33
Paul Millsap sign and trade

Minn gets Paul Millsap 4 years 72 million

Atlanta gets Nemanja Bjelica and a 2018
2nd from minn.

Minnesota renounces Shabbaz Muhammed, and with the trade of Bjelica can fit the four years and 72 million under the cap.

02 Jul 2017 15:13:03
No way millsap takes that deal.

01 Jul 2017 19:25:06
The Minnesota Timberwolves have had a very eventful offseason since trading for Jimmy Butler on draft night and signing Jeff Teague. Now they must close off their activity by bringing Paul Millsap. There are two ways that they can bring in Millsap and both are a bit complicated. Under contract for next year is Butler, Towns, Wiggins, Dieng, Jones, Bjelica, Aldrich, their draft pick Patton, and the newly signed Teague. They also have a qualifying offer on the table for Shabazz Muhammad, who's cap figure is $7.62M and are paying $1.36M in dead cap. Let's assume Millsap is only going to sign for the full max deal worth four years and $154M. The Wolves can either hope to sign him outright or hope Atlanta agrees to a sign and trade.

Option 1: Signing Millsap outright.
Minnesota can clear cap room by moving Cole Aldrich and his $7.3M expiring contract by pairing him with the 2018 protected pick the Wolves acquired yesterday from the Rubio trade to a team with enough cap space (BKN, PHX, NYK, PHI, SAC, CHI, IND). Then the next move would be to take away the qualifying offer from Shabazz Muhammad making him an unrestricted free agent. Even then, they are only $23M under the cap and need to get to $36M. The obvious guy to move the needle is Gorgui Dieng's $14M salary, but moving him may not be easy considering he's owed $64M over the next four years. At that point, they'd probably have to dig into their own future draft pick chest, and pair a future protected 1st or two with Dieng to say Sacramento and take no salary back in return. After that move, Millsap's max contract slips in easily into the Wolves cap table.

Option 2: Sign-and-trade.
Just like in the first scenario they'd have to move Aldrich's expiring deal using the Thunder pick. After that, they'd have to hope the Hawks are willing to except a package for Millsap that includes Gorgui Dieng and a newly signed Shabazz Muhammad and you'd expect the Hawks to demand one of the Wolves future draft picks as well. Obviously, this scenario is contingent on the Hawks willingness to help facilitate Millsap's arrival in Minnesota, so it might just be easier for the Hawks if they just sign Millsap outright, considering you're losing essentially the same pieces.

In the end, it's a no-brainer. You move your starting four, an ok bench scorer, and a backup five for a four-time All-Star in Millsap, who is also one of the 15 best players in basketball today. A starting lineup of Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Millsap, Towns would really elevate the Wolves status in the Western Conference.

01 Jul 2017 10:42:10
Minnesota - P. Milsap (s&t)

Atl - Pekovic, Aldrich and Utah Jazz 2018 pick

01 Jul 2017 19:44:41
pekovic has been waived already.

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