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15 May 2021 15:55:42
Ind: Westbrook, Kleber
Dal: Turner, Beal
Was: Brunson, Green, Lamb, 2x1st and 2x2nd from Mavs

Some player to involve to make the CAP happen.

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15 May 2021 18:07:03
Really terrible.

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15 May 2021 21:46:21
Wizards starting to click. I don't think they will trade Westbrook and Beal at least until next year's deadline.

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15 May 2021 22:49:21
Mavs barely give up enuf to get Turner lol.

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16 May 2021 12:08:27
Well, look who's back.

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15 May 2021 15:46:46
Raptors - Turner and Rivers
- Draft Scottie Barnes
- Resign Lowry

Nuggets - FVV
- Draft Greg Brown

Pacers - Gordon Bembry and Tor 2nd
- Draft Jalen Johnson

Lowry/Flynn
Trent/Rivers
OG/Barnes
Siakam/Boucher
Turner/Baynes

FVV/Morris
Murray/Dozier
MPJ/Barton
Green/Brown
Jokic/Bol Bol

Brogdon/Holiday
Levert/Holiday
Warren/Lamb
Gordon/Johnson
Sabonis/Bitadze

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15 May 2021 18:55:44
So I believer that nuggets piggyback off the pacers when his position fvv is better at position than Gordon and turner.

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15 May 2021 20:16:22
Rivers is a free agent, and I'd rather keep Bembry anyways. but why would you want to exercise Baynes' option instead of signing Birch. I think I'd rather have Gillespie as my backup 5 than Baynes. he's done.

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14 May 2021 19:07:45
Celtics - Towns and Winslow

Grizzlies - Russell

Wolves - Brown R.Williams Thompson Clarke Melton Mem 1st (via Utah) and 2 1sts from Boston

Kemba/Pritchard
Smart/Langford
Tatum/Neismith
G.Williams/Ojeleye
Towns/Fall

Morant/Jones
Russell/Allen
Brooks/Bane
Jackson/Anderson
Valanciunas/Tillman

Rubio/Melton
Edwards/Beasley
Brown/Culver
Clarke/Reid
R.Williams/Thompson
- Take Mobley if they get their 1st

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14 May 2021 21:41:47
How about sending Culver to Boston too?

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15 May 2021 03:02:27
Good trade. Values all seem pretty fair. I doubt it would ever materialize given the way Boston is.

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15 May 2021 18:59:55
Good trade as far as talent goes, but now weaken wolves at their strength and you strengthen where they are already stacked at.

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15 May 2021 20:39:38
Wolves aren’t strong at SF or PF, they upgrade here especially defense. Edwards is best at SG.

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15 May 2021 20:54:05
I just watched KAT again today and I don't know about giving up Brown for him. He's practically invisible on D and just exists to take shots. I'm not crazy about him despite his talent.

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16 May 2021 13:43:11
Ainge made a huge mistake not making a deal with Indiana for Turner and McDermott.

I see them getting bounced in 1st round if they make through the play in.

Ownership needs to disassemble the train wreak that's on the existing track.

Trade Stevens to Pacers.

Bring on Mark Jackson if he has any interest.

Trade Brown and Smart to Pacers for Turner and McDermott.

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13 May 2021 16:47:08
Knicks off season

Sign kyle Lowry 2 yr 30 mill
Sign demar derozan 3 yr 60 mill

Trade

Knicks:Karl anthony towns and jarret culver

T Wolves:Mitchell robinson,obi toppin,kevin knox,frank nilikina and 3 1st rnd picks

2021/22 lineup

PG:Kyle Lowry/Immanuel Quickley
SG:RJ Barrett/Alec Burks
SF:Demar Derozan/Reggie Bullock
PF:Julius Randle/Taj Gibson
C:Karl Anthony-towns/Nerlens Noel

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13 May 2021 18:15:44
No from Minnesota. Knox has no trade value and Nilikina can't be traded (he's a FA) . Plus those 3 1st round picks will be in the late teens or 20's.

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13 May 2021 18:42:09
Lowry and derozan will want 10 more per yr. thibodeau will convince management that his center most be a rim protector. Quickley not a pg and 2 small to defend sg, he is great bait. For 30 mil per yr u might as well go after kawhi for 35 to 40 per yr. DeRozan is a polished version of Barrett. I would

Rozier/ Rose
Bullock/ Burk
Leonard/ Barrett
Randle/ Toppin
Noel/ Robinson

Much better than your team assembled.

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13 May 2021 18:59:14
Is there enough cap space to take on Kat and DLo while giving out 20mil and 15mil FA deals?

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13 May 2021 19:54:51
Wondering the same thing, NBA16.

Also, wondering why Knicks are signing DeRozen and/ or Lowry at the expense of waiving the cap hold on being able to resign Derrick Rose for probably less than what DeRozen or Lowry would cost.

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13 May 2021 20:45:33
“If you sign two lesser free agents, you might as well just sign a superstar”

Yeah shizzee, it’s that simple.

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13 May 2021 13:53:57
VanVleet for Brogdon.

Raptors need a taller SG next to Lowry/Flynn. VanVleet struggled to defend Boston's SGs last year.

Indy wants LeVert to be the main ball-handler. VanVleet can play offball while also defending the other team's PG.

THoughts?

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13 May 2021 16:13:36
Lowry probably moving along and Gary Trent Jr will be sg or trade for Barrett 2 21 1st for vleet and rights to Trent

Vleet/ Rose/ Viladoza
Trent/ Burks/ Duarte
Bullock/ Snell/ Knox
Randle/ Toppin/ 2nd
Noel/ Robinson/ Pelle

Lowry/ D. Mitchell-7/ Flynn
Barrett/ Juzang-20/ Bembry
Anunoby/ Watanabe/ S. Johnson
Siakam/ Boucher/ Gillespie
Birch/ Badji-25/ Garza-buy late 2nd

Now you have bigger and tougher raptor team who won't get bullied inside.

While Knicks get better fit players around Randle.

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13 May 2021 16:14:03
Fair trade.

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13 May 2021 17:56:37
What. Trent AND VanVleet for Barret and two late firsts?

Don't want to sound like Annoying Fredman, but pass.

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13 May 2021 19:55:54
Annoying? Now who is being mean to others?

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14 May 2021 11:53:32
Don't they have to sign Trent first? And doesn't that make it a sign and trade? And doesn't that mean you can't add another player into the deal?
I don't think the value is bad, but it can't happen that way. maybe Trent alone into Knick's cap space, then another deal with Fred for Barrett. but I prefer Darry's original idea of trading Fred to the Pacers. but I'd want Turner instead of Brogdon, and then resign Lowry for 2 years at 25M each.
In a VanVleet for Turner deal what else would need to be included?

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14 May 2021 14:08:21
Why would Indiana trade for a worse off ball defender? You want to upgrade Toronto by downgrading Indiana and you consider this a fair trade?

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14 May 2021 14:11:49
Indiana wouldn't do a VanFleet foe Turner because of Brogdon. Who would Indiana play alongside Sabonis? from a personnel standpoint Turner for VanFleet isn't viable. You would need a 3rd team to send VanFleet to.

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13 May 2021 05:41:33
Pelicans let Lonzo Ball walk and draft Davion Mitchell at #9?

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13 May 2021 12:21:51
I think they'd rather S&T him.

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14 May 2021 19:13:05
I think their best option is keep Ball. And package two firsts and Bledsoe for a Wing.

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13 May 2021 01:12:14
Wizards - Turner
Pacers - Bertans and Avdija

Hornets - Bryant
Wizards - Monk (s&t)

Draft Corey Kispert

Westbrook/Smith
Beal/Monk
Kispert/Hutchinson
Hachimura/Gafford
Turner/Lopez

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13 May 2021 05:46:49
Pretty sure Pacers pass on that trade for Turner.

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13 May 2021 10:58:38
Why would they pass there getting a prospect with lots of potential and there not going to win with Turner but this ain’t giving him away. Give them a player they can keep and develop.

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13 May 2021 15:45:07
Maybe Pacers would pass because they feel they can get a more attractive offer from another team.

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12 May 2021 22:09:17
Pistons - DLo and Reid

Draft Green

Wolves - Grant Doumboya and Plumlee

Draft Cade/Suggs

Cunningham/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley/Culver
McDaniels/Doumboya
Grant/Hernangomez
Towns/Plumlee

Hayes/Lee
Dlo/Mcgruder
Green/Jackson
Bey/Reid
Stewart/Okafor

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13 May 2021 04:50:17
Horrible for detriot. Small Ball don't work.

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13 May 2021 05:48:07
pretty sure Detroit sees Grant>DLo so they will pass on this.

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13 May 2021 11:00:28
Grant not better then dlo. grant just putting up good numbers on a sorry team which lead to no wins.

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13 May 2021 13:18:00
And DLo is putting up good numbers on a sorry team which leads to no wins as well.

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13 May 2021 16:00:06
Dlo hurt and he was an all star last time he stayed healthy and was the main guy on the nets when they went to playoffs.

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13 May 2021 19:01:48
Thought good stats/ numbers don’t matter on bottom team Fred?

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13 May 2021 20:03:43
Actually, NBA16, you are misrepresenting what the other discussion was about. It is not "good stats don't matter on a bottom team". It was "good stats are inflated on a bottom team". 2 completely different discussions. Kindly stop with the misinformation campaign, please.

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14 May 2021 04:54:43
Grant is a 2 way player dlo is not.

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14 May 2021 11:42:47
It’s the same thing 😂 majority players put up inflated numbers on bad teams that don’t translate to “wins” that they would never put up on a team that contends or make playoffs. That’s why people use the rearm “empty stats”.

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14 May 2021 18:50:20
Grant is a two way player but dlo still better and achieved more.

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14 May 2021 18:53:02
Term* keyboard spasm lol.

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