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14 Oct 2019 08:05:40
Pelicans x Minnesota

Minnesota gets
Derrick favors, Josh hart, Darius miller and Etwaun moore
with
lakers 2021 first top 8 protected conveys unprotected in 2022
Lakers 2024 unprotected first
cleveland 2020 first (top 10 protected conveys 2021 and 2022 second rounders)
new orleans 2020 and 2022 unprotected firsts
3 second rounder from 2020 draft (washington, new orleans and milwaukee)
and washington 2022 second rounder

New orleans gets KAT and Gourgie dieng
Waive dieng, williams and jackson sign with crawford and melo

After the trade pelicans roster is the future

Kat, hayes, okafor
Zion, melli
Melo, İngram,
Holiday, reddick
Ball, crawford, walker

İ would invest 2024 first and second also if wolves do not accept the offer.

14 Oct 2019 09:28:40
Not bad. It feels like a lot, but that might be fairly close to what it would take.

14 Oct 2019 09:54:27
I would like this to happen.

That NO team would be awesome.

30 Sep 2019 12:21:59
Heat - Pistons - Thunder

Heat gets:
Paul
Griffin
Nader
Mykhailiuk
2021 2nd rd pick (Lakers via Pistons)

Pistons gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Schroeder
Olynyk
Herro

Thunder gets:
Dragic (expiring)
Jackson (expiring)
J.Johnson
Winslow
2025 1st rd pick (Heat, Lottery Protected)
Leonard (expiring)

30 Sep 2019 13:06:17
The Piston’s are getting way to little and the Thunder are getting way to much.

30 Sep 2019 15:06:43
The Paul Griffin pairing is not something I would want. Too much history between them.

30 Sep 2019 15:32:50
Agreed with Fred. Paul and Griffin seemed to hate playing with each other, it doesn't seem like a smart idea to bring them back together, especially with Paul having substantially declined.

24 Sep 2019 20:02:15
Thunder - Wizards

Thunder gets:
Mahinmi (expiring)
Miles (expiring)
Bertans (expiring)
2020 2nd rd pick (Chicago or Memphis)
2022 2nd rd pick (Lakers, Chicago or Detroit)
2023 2nd rd pick

Wizards gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Schroeder

24 Sep 2019 20:34:04
And this helps Washington how? They should be acquiring assets, not trading them away. That's why I think they should trade Beal.

24 Sep 2019 21:01:14
Washington wants to convince Beal to sign an extension.

16 Sep 2019 09:51:49
Should CP3 consider a buy out?

And what would be a fair offer for both CP3 and the Thunder?

I would offer a 38 million buy out.

CP3 can sign for the vet minimum with LA Lakers or even the LA clippers, the spurs, Indiana or Miami and explore the free agent market next year.

16 Sep 2019 10:17:41
He has 3 years left on the deal.

16 Sep 2019 11:15:08
120 mil or 38mil 🤣, read before u post. 80 mil would be the least and still I take the final 44 mil over a ring.

16 Sep 2019 11:56:27
can't a player agree a buyout when he has a three year contract?

16 Sep 2019 12:10:37
No owner is giving him 38 to leave. He is stuck.

16 Sep 2019 13:34:27
I think the Thunder would be ecstatic if he took 38 mil. I don’t see any way he just gives away 80 million though. Why in the world would he? I think he’d want closer to 80-100, which seems unlikely from the Thunder.

As the president of the players union, it makes him even less likely to give much away, it doesn’t set a good example.

16 Sep 2019 20:18:23
The real problem is that buyouts do not remove the 3 years worth of salary from OKC'S salary cap. It essentially becomes dead cap space which could be spread over the next 9 years ($13 mil in dead cap space for the next nine years? Yikes! ) .

16 Sep 2019 21:14:48
It would be 7 years if they stretched his salary.

(Years x2) + 1

Right now he is owed $124 mil, ($39, $41, $44), so stretched it would be an $18 mil/ yr cap hit for a staggering 7 years.

As the president of the NBA Players Association, and a guy that got rid of the rule that prevented big paychecks to older players, I think it would set a bad example if he took a buy out and left money on the table. But even if he does, I would think OKC would prefer not to stretch him, and eat the cap hit over the next three years, when they are unlikely to be a contender anyway. In 4-7 years, who knows how much they’d need the extra cap space?

16 Sep 2019 22:35:51
Thanks for the correct Shrink. Wasnt able to do the proper research before posting. On average, rebuilding teams get a first round draft pick for using $18 mil of their cap space based on past salary dump deals. So stretching Paul comes at a cost of $120 mil (or whatever the buyout is) AND 7 first round picks. YIKES!

11 Sep 2019 09:12:21
The Grizzlies get Rondo(buyout), Cousins(release), Caldwell-Pope, Horton-Tucker, and 2 2nds.

The Lakers Get Iguodala

11 Sep 2019 09:33:02
Caldwell-Pope vetoes?

11 Sep 2019 10:45:54
Right up until Rich Paul and Lebron tell him to stfu and go to Memphis.

11 Sep 2019 16:00:58
At which time he fires Rich Paul and gives Lebron the bird. And then become a cancer in the Lakers locker room so that they don't win the championship this year.

That works for me.

13 Sep 2019 23:58:20
Or they can just release him if that happens.

04 Sep 2019 23:11:26
BOS/NOLA/CLE

BOS get Favors exp, Moore exp

NOLA get Love

CLE get Hayward, LAL 1st from NOLA, BOS protected 1st

02 Sep 2019 14:11:30
OKC LAL if Howard isn't doing well.

OKC get Howard and Kuzma
LAL get Noel, Muscala, 2020 DEN 1st and 2023 MIA 1st

Noel does have a no trade clause but i'm sure he would accept a trade to a winning team that he would prob get more minutes on vs coming off the bench behind Adams getting 14 min on a losing team.

OKC downgrade their back up C swap Noel for Howard. Noel is younger, played better, and stayed healthier than Howard last year. They bring in Kuzma to pair with SGA as future building blocks. They give up 2 1sts because Kuzma is still on a cheap rookie deal and has good potential. He is also locked up the longest contract wise out of the players involved.

LAL upgrade their C situation if Howard isn't working out which i doubt he does. have Mcgee and Noel at C. They get Muscala to be back up PF he can knock down the 3 which LAL need good catch and shoot shooters. They get a 1st or 2 out of it which they could use some more 1sts after the Davis trade.

02 Sep 2019 14:54:21
I don’t think the Lakers have any interest in picks right now.

02 Sep 2019 17:55:27
Not sure the Lakers are willing to give up Kuzma when they can just waive Howard and sign Joakim Noah.

30 Aug 2019 12:40:20
CP3 can draw kobe out of retirement 40 games. He wants 6 championship. Lebron wants to be only player to win with 3 teams. This guarantees davis resign after they win.

Lakers get CP3 Patton Dotson

OKC get Morris Curry Ellington Trier all expiring & Cook

Knicks get KCP Green McGee Bradley 2 2020 okc 2nd

CP3/Rondo/Caruso
Kobe/Daniels/Dotson
Lebron/Dudley/Tucker
Kuzma/Melo/Antetokounmpo
Davis/Howard/Patton

Knicks can develop their players instead of rushing them. KCP and Green will help win while they develop their players slowly.

Payton/Smithjr/Ntilikina
KCP/Barrett/Bradley
Green/Knox/Bullock-ir
Randle/Portis/Brazdeikas
Robinson/Gibson/McGee

Okc gets out CP3 contract and still have a competitive team

SGA/Schroder/Cook
Ferguson/Diallo/Trier
Roberson/Bazley/Nader
Gallo/Morris/Muscala
Adams/Noel/Curry-ir

30 Aug 2019 13:14:55
First off KCP will probably veto the trade since its his best chance at a ring staying in LA.

Secondly, OKC will only be competitive for a lottety pick.

30 Aug 2019 14:31:44
Can't see any Knicks players worth developing.

30 Aug 2019 15:14:54
A top 3 pick that hasn't played a game and a decent young center (and maybe Knox) aren't worth developing Supercollider? I realize we all hate the Knicks, but that doesn't mean we have to lie.

30 Aug 2019 17:37:58
KCP could be 1st or 2nd opt in ny with chance at being 20+ ppg which mean 20 mil contract next yr. I have believe 4yrs of 20 mil is better than a ring. He can buy his own ring. This trade will almost guarentee knicks being competitive and balanced, supercollider can't imagine C's in last place. 😂😂.

30 Aug 2019 21:03:04
You expect a lot out of someone who never scored over 15 PPG for a season. There is a reason why KCP keeps signing deals to keep his vetoing power (to stay in LA) .

Your belief that any 20 PPG scorer can get a $20 mil deal is based on Julius Randle? He scored over 20 PPG and didn't get the $20 mil per season contract. And that offer came after every team that had cap space (minus Clips and Lakers who were waiting on Kawhi) spent all their cap space. Also Randle ended up on his third losing team.

31 Aug 2019 19:39:16
Just a quick update, Lebron won’t be the only player with championships on 3 teams.
John Salley did it 1st and Robert Horry did it right after him.

The next player that will join those elite 2 will be Kawhi Leonard. The only way Lebron achieves that goal will be if he starts ring chasing and joining another team into his 40’s (which he will probably do feeling the shadow of Kobe & Jordan over him). The Clippers will keep the Lakeshow at bay for the rest of his contract there.

Finally, did anyone else notice that in this trade scenario, Shizzee has Kobe coming out of retirement and to help Lebron win another championship???
I don’t know why he would stop there, we could easily get Shaq to come down from the broadcast booth to join this “likely” team.
I heard Magic & Kareem might want in on this Ring chasing team too.

02 Sep 2019 06:41:16
Lebron isn’t in Kobe’s shadow at all.

02 Sep 2019 21:20:33
Let’s just say that Lebron doesn’t even come close to being respected by Lakers fans like Kobe still is, which is where he has chosen to play, which when you kind of look at that, he kind of is in Kobe’s shadow.

Kobe has helped bring 5 NBA Championships to LA, Lebron can’t even help them get into the playoffs. That feels kind of like a shadow.

Did I say 5 Championhips?
That’s right, Lebron’s only got 3.
Some might think that’s a shadow.

Now some may point to Lebron’s MVP’s and weak Eastern Conference finals appearances as Lebron’s challenge to Kobe.

I guess it really just comes down to what Lebron feels in his own insecurities as to whether he is or isn’t in anyone’s shadow. Not what we fans necessarily want to debate.

29 Aug 2019 00:58:16
Cavs and Lakers

Cavs get LeBron James back

Lakers get: Kevin love cedi osmon, Thompson, and two first round picks

29 Aug 2019 09:36:52
Why would the Cavs or the Lakers want to do this?

28 Aug 2019 13:57:53
Knicks - Lakers - Thunder

Knicks gets:
KCP
Muscala (expiring)
Daniels (expiring)

Lakers gets:
Paul
Ellington
Noel (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Green
McGee
Cousins (release)
Cook
Caruso

Lakers sign Iguodala when he's bought out.

Lakers 2019/2020:
Paul/Rondo
Ellington/Bradley
James/Iguodala
Davis/Kuzma
Noel/Howard

2020 NBA Champions!

28 Aug 2019 14:50:45
So the Knicks are included in this deal in the hope that KCP won't veto the trade? He would veto if sent to OKC.

27 Aug 2019 23:25:25
Cavs, Knicks, and pels

Cavs get: Zion Williamson and Knicks first round pick 2020

Knicks get: Brandon ingrem, Collin Sexton and Jordan Clarkson and Lakers first round pick 2020

Pels get: rj barret, Kevin love,cedi osman and three second round picks from the cavs

27 Aug 2019 23:12:11
Cavs and pels

Cavs get: Zion Williamson and Lakers first round pick 2020

Pels get: Kevin love cedi osman and 2021 first round pick and 2022 first round pick

27 Aug 2019 23:34:37
Take away Zion and the cavs picks and add another lakers pick and maybe it would work.

27 Aug 2019 23:52:14
This is awesome!

28 Aug 2019 00:01:05
Zion is functionally untouchable.

28 Aug 2019 00:17:46
Not impressed by this joke.

22 Aug 2019 13:28:06
Heat - Lakers - Thunder

Heat gets:
Paul
Bradley
Muscala (expiring)
2022 2nd rd pick (Lakers)

Lakers gets:
Waiters
Noel (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Dragic (expiring)
J.Johnson
Cousins (release)
Caruso
2023 2nd rd pick (Lakers)

22 Aug 2019 15:15:05
The Heat and Lakers both get shafted.

22 Aug 2019 15:39:18
Lakers 2022 2nd is not tradable. Its going to either Chicago, Memphis or Washington according to RealGM.

22 Aug 2019 17:29:22
The Heat are not taking Paul without getting their 2 1st Rnd picks back from Okc. That’s Riley’s starting price.

Okc is not giving up those 2 1st Rnd picks unless they get in return Presti’s asking price. In part which is Dragic’s expiring and one of the Heat’s young assets.

Neither side will blink unless they are forced to and truthfully neither side is realistically playing for a championship this season, so they can wait if forced to until next season for changes.

Okc and Paul’s options won’t really begin for this season until between Dec 15th and Feb 7th. That’s when Presti will be forced to blink or not.

22 Aug 2019 10:24:00
The Lakers get Ferguson, Noel, Muscala, Paul and 2 Indy 2nds.

The Thunder get Leaf, Mcdermott, Sumner, KCP, Bradley, Cousins(waive), and Daniels(waive)

Indiana gets Danny Green

22 Aug 2019 15:40:25
KCP vetoes.

22 Aug 2019 18:24:12
Okc isn’t giving up Ferguson here

22 Aug 2019 18:30:48
Who thinks KCP is going to sign off playing in OKC?

23 Aug 2019 00:06:37
Fredman he has a choice? I thought that was last contract.

23 Aug 2019 17:55:15
Spotrac.com shows him having a no-trade clause. Also


Keith Smith

✔@KeithSmithNBA

I can confirm that KCP has a player option for 2020-21. This gives him another de facto no-trade clause.

Yahoo Sports Lakers beat writer.

21 Aug 2019 12:30:36
Heat - Lakers - Thunder

Heat gets:
Paul
Muscala (expiring)

Lakers gets:
Dragic (expiring)
Noel (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Green
Johnson
Leonard (expiring)
Cook

21 Aug 2019 13:19:30
The Heat have basically came out and said that they aren’t trading Paul for free. It just doesn’t make sense with how he played last year and the years left.

21 Aug 2019 13:56:13
The Heat get under the luxury tax and save money this season.

21 Aug 2019 14:03:54
For this season, sure, they're out of luxury tax. But their cap is throttled for the next 4 by taking on Paul. If you're going to screw your cap, you need to get assets out of it.

22 Aug 2019 06:54:57
Thunder will keep Paul and let him expire before giving up a first pick to trade him. Don't think they stretch him either. Gallo expires next year so there not in the tax or need cap over next two offseasons. Like I see thunder doing something like Teague and dieng for Paul and a second round pick. Or for lee and hard away for Paul and a second.

21 Aug 2019 11:05:17
The Heat get Gallo, Paul, Horton-Tucker, and two Lakers 2nds

The Thunder get Johnson, Waiters, Leonard(exp), Caldwell-Pope(expiring), Cousins(waive), Caruso, a Lakers 2nd and save 8 million dollars.

The Lakers get Dragic and Noel.

The Heat improve their team and probably end up a piece away from being a contender to come out of the East. Plus, they get some assets for taking on Paul.

I think the Paul stuff is going to go south. They're not going to be that good and Paul wants to be on a contender. They get off Paul, save money, get some smaller assets and open up more cap for this offseason.

The Lakers get the guard that they need who can keep the offense running when Lebron is out and get a center that can give them decent minutes.

21 Aug 2019 13:23:04
KCP can veto. And probably would.

Also we are talking about Lakers 2nds 2023-2025. Seems like a while for compensation.

18 Aug 2019 17:02:39
MEM/ Lakers

Memphis trades Dwight Howard
Lakers trade Demarcus Cousins + 2023 2nd rounder (Lakers earliest available draft pick) .

Would have to wait until Dec 15, but doubt Memphis just buys out Howard unless he gives them a great deal (like 75% discount) .

18 Aug 2019 17:26:10
It would be worth it just to send James's reaction when Howard starts goofing off in the middle of a game.

16 Aug 2019 08:35:47
Between December 15 and the trade deadline.


Lakers - Thunder

Lakers gets:
Paul
Burton

Thunder gets:
Green
KCP
Cousins (Release)
Cook
Caruso

Lakers gets a veteran star in Paul have a starting 5 with, CP3-Bradley-LeBron-Davis-McGee. They now have roster spots for buyout players.

Thunder save money now and in the future without loosing any of their picks.

16 Aug 2019 08:49:55
Teams these days need depth. Lakers better off keeping it than rely on a young stud and 2 old stars to win.

16 Aug 2019 09:12:39
You can also include Dallas and send Hardaway Jr. to the Thunder while Green and KCP end up with the Mavericks.

16 Aug 2019 10:59:06
They can add depth when players get bought out.

16 Aug 2019 16:23:03
Tell me again why they would trade away Green & KCP?
For roster spots to pick waiver wire players???

And then why the Thunder would want to have Hardaway over Green & KCP???

I’m not sure who your preferred team is, but Okc is getting an absurd amount of salary relief, Dallas is the one who benefits from the player trade & Rob Pelinka would be fired the next day.

16 Aug 2019 17:06:07
Lakers have the worst backcourt in the league and CP3 would be a huge upgrade.

16 Aug 2019 22:43:58
Lakers have the worst backcourt? Really?

16 Aug 2019 23:21:17
That Orlando or Philly backcourt can be pretty bad.

14 Aug 2019 08:42:57
OKC - Lakers

OKC gets LeBron and AD

Lakers get Raymond Felton and Steven Adams

This trade gives the Thunder an experienced veteran in LeBron, who can come off the bench, and a young player like AD who could be a future all star.

Lakers get an asset in Steven Adams, and an all star in Raymond Felton.

14 Aug 2019 10:50:10
So you think that's funny?

14 Aug 2019 12:12:27
Great. A new troll has moved in.

14 Aug 2019 15:45:25
The salaries don’t match, unless we do a sign and trade with Felton.
But I heard Felton has a lot of other offers and I just don’t know if he’d be willing to go play for the Lakers.

Here’s to hoping Presti can pull off some of his magic.

08 Aug 2019 11:29:08
Pelicans/Spurs/Thunder

Pelicans/ Aldridge + Carroll

Holiday/Ball
Reddick/Hart/Jackson
Carroll/Miller/Alexander
Williamson/Hayes/Melli
Aldridge/Okafor

Spurs/ Favors + Ingram + Gallinari

Murray/Mills
Derozan/White/Walker
Ingram/Gay/Johnson
Gallinari/Lyles/Samanic
Favors/Poeltl

Thunder/ Melli + Bellineli + Forbes + 1st from Pelicans from Lakers

Paul/Schroeder
Shai/Forbes/Diallo
Ferguson/Bellineli
Melli/Roberson/Muscala
Adams/Noel/Bazley

08 Aug 2019 12:18:54
The Pelicans are getting robbed.

08 Aug 2019 14:14:36
Okc would consider it to save some money for the upcoming year and for a draft pick, but would probably need it to be swapped for the Cleveland 1st Rnd pick.
Forbes is the only player that sort of fits their direction and has real value for them but is on an expiring contract.

09 Aug 2019 04:21:49
OKC23. You may want to check the protections on that Cleveland pick. OKC gets an actual 1st rounder from the Lakers or what will probably be 2 second rounders from Cleveland. And OKC is not getting a lottery pick for Gallinari.

09 Aug 2019 16:22:49
Fredman, neither 1st Rnd picks is a lottery pick.
The only consideration is an extremely late LA 1st in 2022 or a pair of really high 2nd in 2021 and 2022.

Gallinari won’t pull a lottery pick from anyone, but he will gain a much better player, pick or salary relief than someone like a Dragic will on a similar contract.

 
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