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14 Oct 2019 09:34:58
Bucks - Clippers - Thunder

Bucks gets:
Paul

Clippers gets:
Bledsoe
Ilyasova (expiring)
Nader

Thunder gets:
Harkless (expiring)
Hill
McGruder
Robinson
2020 1st Clippers (Lottery protected)
2021 2nd Pacers (via Bucks)

14 Oct 2019 15:14:56
Clippers pass.

14 Oct 2019 08:05:40
Pelicans x Minnesota

Minnesota gets
Derrick favors, Josh hart, Darius miller and Etwaun moore
with
lakers 2021 first top 8 protected conveys unprotected in 2022
Lakers 2024 unprotected first
cleveland 2020 first (top 10 protected conveys 2021 and 2022 second rounders)
new orleans 2020 and 2022 unprotected firsts
3 second rounder from 2020 draft (washington, new orleans and milwaukee)
and washington 2022 second rounder

New orleans gets KAT and Gourgie dieng
Waive dieng, williams and jackson sign with crawford and melo

After the trade pelicans roster is the future

Kat, hayes, okafor
Zion, melli
Melo, İngram,
Holiday, reddick
Ball, crawford, walker

İ would invest 2024 first and second also if wolves do not accept the offer.

14 Oct 2019 09:28:40
Not bad. It feels like a lot, but that might be fairly close to what it would take.

14 Oct 2019 09:54:27
I would like this to happen.

That NO team would be awesome.

12 Oct 2019 23:24:58
Celtics.get Adams, Lee, Nader

Mavs get Schroeder, Ojeleye, 2020 Milwaukee first via Boston

Okc gets Hayward, Williams III, Brunson

Paul, Brunson, FA
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Hayward, Roberson, Burton
Gallinari, Bazley, Muscala
Noel, Williams, Patton

Third point could be Felton, Harris, Lin... or they pursue another trade. But realistically, Shai is the backup point with Brunson as the third pg. This deal cuts the salary to duck luxury with room to bring in one more guy even. They have lots of shooting and enough D. With all the talk about moving their vets for assets, I wonder how they'd fair with a deal like this: pushing for a playoff spot while retaining picks.

Celtics make tons of sense for Adams. He could make all their guys better. Not a terrible contract for all he does.

Mavs add a pick.... albeit a most likely late one. They do this for the sake of adding a scoring punch to their bench as they too chase a playoff spot in the west.

12 Oct 2019 01:14:18
Bucks/OKC/Pistons Three Team Deals Trade Deadline February 8

Bucks Trade Eric Bledsoe Khris Middleton

Pistons Trade Andre Drummond Tony Snell 2023 first round pick (Top 10 protected)

OKC Trade Chris Paul

Bucks receive Chris Paul Andre Drummond

OKC receive Eric Bledsoe Tony Snell 2023 first round pick (Top 10 protected).via Pistons

Pistons receive Khris Middleton

08 Oct 2019 20:46:38
Center days!

If, then the next two nights, Mavs may add a real center in Adams or Drummond.

Tonight? OKC wants to get under the cap (since they are some bucks above).

A trade with less money back would already fulfill this demand.

My first proposal would be, since Mavs could take Roberson by their trade exception:

Mavs: -Adams, Ferguson, Roberson
OKC: -Hardaway, Jackson, 1st

07 Oct 2019 07:08:14
Bucks/Magic/Cavs February 8

Magic Trade Aaron Gordon NIKOLA Vucevic

Cavs Trade Kevin Love

Bucks Trade Brook Lopez Ersan IIyasova

Magic receive Kevin Love Brook Lopez

Bucks receive NIkola Vucevic

Cavs receive Aaron Gordon Ersan IIyasova

07 Oct 2019 13:33:44
Magic trade the best 2 players in this deal, why would they do that?

07 Oct 2019 17:09:30
Magic they to start Bama @ Center Kevin Love is Better than Vucevic and Gordon and Lopez going to be back up Center for Magic.

07 Oct 2019 20:43:05
An All-Star back up Center. Just what Orlando needs. Good thing it wasnt a PG.

07 Oct 2019 21:40:57
Kevin Love is better than Vucevic? That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. Love is a basket case, his head is all messed up. Vucevic is an All Star and averages a double double every night.

06 Oct 2019 18:11:08
Bucks/Blazers/Hawks/Pistons 4 Teams Deal February 8 Trade Deadline

Bucks Trade Brooks Lopez Wesley Matthews 2020 second round pick 2021 second round pick

Pistons Trade Blake Griffin Luke Kennard

Hawks Trade Chandler Persons 2022 first round pick.via Thunder

Blazers Trade Zach Collins Hassan Whiteside

Bucks receive Hassan Whiteside Luke Kennard

Blazers receive Blake Griffin

Hawks receive Zach Collins Brooks Lopez

Pistons receive Wesley Matthews Chandler Persons 2020 first round pick.via Blazers 2022 first round pick.via Thunder 2020 second round pick.via Bucks 2021 second round pick.via Bucks

06 Oct 2019 18:54:24
So are the Blazers trading their 2020 1st?

06 Oct 2019 19:01:04
BrookLopez+Matthews+2SecondRounders for Whiteside+Kennard?

06 Oct 2019 19:08:13
Yes they’re.

06 Oct 2019 21:27:48
Bucks doesn’t have first round picks to give up to unload.

06 Oct 2019 17:56:06
Tor-mil
Tor:G. Antetokounmpo
Mil:Ibaka
Siakam
2020 1st
2020 2nd
2021 2nd
2020 2nd

06 Oct 2019 19:03:31
Not enough.

06 Oct 2019 19:12:17
what is enough then?

06 Oct 2019 22:07:13
Vanvleet, Powell, Siakam, OG, and 3 1sts might be enough. You’re looking at something like the AD or George trade.

07 Oct 2019 01:08:18
4 Siakems?

Look, Giannis is a young MVP candidate, who could be the best player in the game for the next ten years. He’s also is a marketing bonanza, especially for Milwaukee.

Siakem was impressive, but he is not a Top 25 player yet. He may (repeat “MAY”) become one, but Giannis already is. Even if Siakem becomes the best 1% possibility, his ceiling is not at Freak’s level.

There difference in value is a whole lot more than a 1st and a bunch of 2nd rounders. Look at the price that lesser stars were traded for last summer.

15 Oct 2019 05:36:15
Giannis would never agree to being traded to the raptors if that was the case he would just wait until free agency to go where he wants, he would want to be traded to a team he would resign too, why go to the raptors by himself.

03 Oct 2019 19:54:36
Hayward, brown, memphis pick and milwaukee pick with atlanta second rounder
For
Blake griffin and luke kennard
Boston
Kemba, wanamaker
Smart, langford
Tatum
Blake
Enes, tako fall
Detroit
Rose, reggie
Svi, brown
Jaylen, sekou
Hayward, morris
Drummond, maker
What do you think?

03 Oct 2019 20:04:09
Have to assume this is a joke.

03 Oct 2019 20:44:38
Too many players on Boston's roster that need the bsll in their hands to be effective. Walker, Tatum, Griffin, Kanter, which one is taking a step back and playing off the ball?

03 Oct 2019 21:02:42
I like it. The Celtics fans on here are all Hayward stans though.

04 Oct 2019 15:34:22
Why would this be a joke Supercollider? This puts Boston in the top 3 of the east without a doubt. If you think this is too much for Griffin, then you are severely underrating Griffin (who was third team all NBA last year) . He would probably be the best player on that team.

03 Oct 2019 07:23:55
If Milwaukee takes a bad start and they feel Giannis wants out.

Milwaukee; J Brown+ Tatum+ Smart+ 1rnd pick Memphis.

Boston: Giannis Antetokounmpo

03 Oct 2019 15:30:20
your going to trade best player in basketball and maybe the only star willing to play in Milwaukee for those bums. accept for AD and Curry and Thompson camob no combination is worth the greek freak.

03 Oct 2019 16:52:50
Probably need at least two more firsts.

04 Oct 2019 01:45:30
Giannis isn't going anywhere. As soon as possible, The Bucks are going to max him out at 249 Mil for 5 yrs. Giannis also stated he prefers the small market, Not a big market. As stated above, You don't trade the best player in the league.

15 Oct 2019 05:38:47
If it’s not a trade to the warriors or Trail Blazers or going to link up with another star Giannis not resigning and miles well stay on his team.

03 Oct 2019 00:45:33
Bucks/Pistons February 8 Trade Deadline

Bucks Trade Khris Middleton

Pistons Trade Andre Drummond

Bucks sign Carmelo Anthony 2yrs 4 millions

Pistons receive Khris Middleton

Bucks receive Andre Drummond

03 Oct 2019 07:20:47
Why would Milwaukee do this?

Talent wise it's fair, but Milwaukee need Middleton. Drummond is a beast, but milwaukee, needs shooters and defense and that'w what Middleton brings.

02 Oct 2019 22:57:25
TOR-MIL-GSW
TOR:
-G. Antetokounmpo
-Russell
-D. Bender
MIL:
-Green
-Cauley-Stein
-Looney
-Ibaka
-N. Powell
-TOR 2021 1st
-TOR 2020 2nd
-GSW 2020 2nd
GSW:
-Siakam
-M. Gasol
-G. Hill
-Bledsoe
-TOR 2020 1st

03 Oct 2019 01:27:30
If Giannis gets traded, you’re looking at an AD type package this is awful. Toronto is getting way to much.

06 Oct 2019 12:11:41
Yes, but neither GSW nor mil is getting too little. Both of them would probably accept.

06 Oct 2019 16:28:04
I like it lol. I don't think OG and siakim will become players like allstars franchise type.

06 Oct 2019 18:52:35
Thanks sivretsolide. however, i found an error in my trade that's not what rkenne pointed out. raptors would have 3 pgs. maybe lowry for vucevic and fournier?

02 Oct 2019 14:21:13
Boston: KAT+covington

Minny: Tatum+G Hayward+ 1rnd pick Memphis+ 1rnd pick+1rnd pick Milwaukee

02 Oct 2019 15:09:44
Boston fans will hate it, but it makes a lot of sense for both sides. And it feels pretty even.

02 Oct 2019 16:20:18
It seems fair, but i ho back to Ainge not wanting to include Tatum in a deal for AD, not sure he would do it for Towns.

02 Oct 2019 16:32:06
I don't believe for a second that Ainge wouldn't have included Tatum in a deal for Davis. That's just a bad lie. He might not have been willing to match what the Lakers traded, but if it were something like Tatum, Hayward, and a first, Ainge would have taken that without hesitation.

02 Oct 2019 16:55:12
Kind of feel like this doesn't help Minny that much. Kind of crowded between Wiggins, Tatum, Hayward and Culver.

02 Oct 2019 16:55:32
The media was saying that Tatum was made available. I don’t see why they would be lying about that. I see why the Celtics would say he wasn’t though.

02 Oct 2019 18:55:49
Covington is beast, but Towns is soft.

20 Sep 2019 16:21:25
4 Teams Deals Warriors/Wizards/Bucks/Suns January 15

Suns Trade Tyler Johnson Cam Johnson Dario Saric 2020 first round pick.via Bucks

Bucks Trade Eric Bledsoe Khris Middleton DJ Wilson Wesley Matthews

Warriors Trade D'Angelo Russell 2021 first round pick.via Warriors

Wizards Trade Bradley Beal

Warriors get Khris Middleton

Suns get Eric Bledsoe

Wizards get Tyler Johnson DJ Wilson Dario Saric Wesley Matthews Cam Johnson 2020 first round pick.via Bucks 2021 first round pick.via Warriors

Bucks get D'Angelo Russell Bradley Beal

20 Sep 2019 17:36:09
Since Golden state does own a 2020 first round pick, they cannot trade their 2021 until after the 2020 draft.

Their 2022 pick however, if available to be traded if you want to substitute the picks.

Salaries seem off to me as well. Phoenix is sending out nearly $27 mil in salary, but only taking back $15 mil. How?

20 Sep 2019 17:56:30
Bledsie pack to phoenix after the way he left?

20 Sep 2019 13:28:38
OKC CHA

OKC get Batum, Kidd-Gilchrist (exp)
CHA get Paul, Nader, Den 2020 1st


OKC get out of Pauls contract while only giving up 1 1st to me that's a win. However they do take on Batums bad contract but it expires 1 year sooner than Paul's, and is about 10 mil cheaper. MKG is also paid to much but he is expiring. By doing this they can put SGA at PG instead of SG and clear their jam at PG.

CHA get the best player involved in the trade, and make some PG depth which they need. Even though he does have a bad contract he is clearly the best player out of them and they are getting rid of 1 of their bad contracts also. They also get a 1st to help the rebuild. The reason it is only 1 1st and its the late DEN 1st is because once again they are also getting out of a bad contract. They also get Nader who has some potential could develop into a decent 3&D player, and he is also cheap and he is cheap for a couple more years so low risk medium-high reward type of player.

20 Sep 2019 13:54:44
They just gave a bunch of money to Rozier.

20 Sep 2019 18:24:44
Yea then who do they have at PG after that? They need depth at PG. And what if Rozier doesn't end up being the starter they want him to be. They will be screwed at PG if Rozier doesn't work out starting.

20 Sep 2019 21:11:41
Rlc, you make it sound like having brittle Chris Paul on the worse team in the league is a "successful" option.

20 Sep 2019 07:49:56
3 Team Deals Warriors/Bucks/Wizards January 15

Warriors Trade D'Angelo Russell 2021 first round pick.via Warriors

Bucks Trade Eric Bledsoe DJ Wilson Wesley Matthews Kris Middleton 2021 first round pick.via Bucks

Wizards Trade Bradley Beal

Warriors get Kris Middleton

Bucks get D'Angelo Russell & Bradley Beal

Wizards get Eric Bledsoe DJ Wilson Wesley Matthews 2021 first round pick.via Bucks & 2021 first round pick.via Warriors

20 Sep 2019 10:31:25
Not terrible. It’d have to be a different Bucks pick though. The Cavs own that one.

20 Sep 2019 11:38:05
Likely no from Wizards, and for sure no from Warriors. Wizards are grtting 2 older players 2 late 1st round picks and 1 younger player who has some potential but i don't think all star potential. Wizards are going to want a better young player and better picks. Warriors are giving up the younger, cheaper, and arguably better or same talent wise player. Why do they have to add a 1st?

20 Sep 2019 12:40:21
The Wizards can get a better offer for Beal
And i doubt GS would make a trade that would make the Bucks the best team in the league.

But it's a nice try and i like this for th Bucks.

18 Sep 2019 03:19:18
MIL-TOR-MIN

MIL: K.Lowry, S.Napier

gain the PG of the team that eliminated them. Provide vet leadership and experience to this rising team. If doesn't work, it opens ample amount of money

Lowry-Napier-Mason
Middleton-Connaughton-Divi
Matthews-Korver-Brown
Giannis-Wilson-Bender
Lopez-Lopez

TOR: A.Wiggins, G.Hill, T.Graham 1st round pick MIN, 1st round pick MIL
- maybe start rebuilding

VanVleet-Hill-Payne
Wiggins-McCaw-Graham
Anuonoby-Johnson
Siakam-RHJ
Gasol-Ibaka

MIN: E.Bledsoe, E.Ilyasova, N.Powell
- get players that could help them now and get rid of Wiggins

Bledsoe-Teague
Culver-Powell
Covington-Okogie-Layman
Ilyasova-Vonleh
Towns-Dieng-Bell

18 Sep 2019 15:33:55
Milwaukee would pass!

18 Sep 2019 17:56:09
Torque- bledsoe is not going to ever start on a championship team.

29 Sep 2019 22:45:03
Tor in: Wiggins, Hill, Graham, two first rounders
Tor out: Lowry, Powell
I think the Raptors are getting a bit too much.
Also, why would Milwaukee ever do this?

18 Sep 2019 02:58:34
Small, but realistic?

MIN GETS: Kris Dunn
CHI GETS: $2.3 mil in savings, Treveon Graham and Tyrone Wallace (with around $1.3M of his contract guaranteed)


Even if they simply dumped Graham and Wallace, they take $2.35 mil off the books and open a roster spot. However the Bulls could use some wing depth, so they could take a flier. I think Dunn is dead money in CHI, and expect him to get no minutes. They paid Satoransky to start, Boylen loves Arcidiacono, and Coby White was the #7 pick and needs whatever minutes that are left.

MIN is shallow at PG if Teague or Napier get injured, and Rosas likes 25 year olds on one year contracts. They could sign some guy on the borderline of the NBA for a minimum contract, or pay a little more and get Dunn.

It comes down to MIN may use Dunn and CHI probably will not.

18 Sep 2019 12:51:23
You can get someone after the training camp cuts that is probably just as good as Dunn for less than $2.3 mil.

16 Sep 2019 22:25:32
Milwaukee: CP3

Detroit:Bledsoe+ 2rnd pick OKC

OKC: Jackson+G Hill+Ilyasova+ DJ Wilson+ 1rnd pick Detroit (lotery protected)

17 Sep 2019 00:24:48
Sorry. don't see any scenario where OKC gets off of Paul's contract AND get a 1st round pick.

17 Sep 2019 00:51:24
Hill, Wilson, and Bledsoe all have positive value and Paul has a significant amount of negative value.

17 Sep 2019 07:19:59
CP3 hasn't negative value, he only has a contract that's to big, but he could be an all star in the east.

CP3 > Bledsoe and Hill.

C: B Lopez
PF: Giannis
SF:Middleton
SG: Korver/ Matthews
PG: CP3.

17 Sep 2019 16:28:00
Gaspo. got to throw in Paul's inability to be healthy over the last 2 years into his "worth" as well.

16 Sep 2019 22:02:08
Bulls - Celtics - Thunder

Bulls gets:
Hayward
Langford

Celtics gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Schroeder

Thunder gets:
Porter Jr.
Dunn
2020 1st rd pick (Bucks via Celtics)

16 Sep 2019 22:22:46
Why is everyone trying to trade Hayward? I just don't get it.
He's not going to be traded. If he was, it would have happened already.

17 Sep 2019 01:50:09
JoeB -- Teams think that they can buy low on Hayward after last year's bad season. Celtics fans don't want to take 60 cents on the dollar, though. I would not take Schroeder and Gallinari for him.

17 Sep 2019 09:04:59
You are right supercolider, people are trying to get him on the cheap, which is why Ainge has shut those teams down. according to one GM, he tried to sell his owner on Hayward while getting him on the cheap. Shut down immediately by Ainge.

17 Sep 2019 15:31:57
"He's not going to be traded. If he was, it would have happened already. "

So if someone hasn't yet been traded, that's proof they won't be? lol.

 
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