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21 Jun 2017 07:49:24
Clippers are looking to deal Jordan. Not sure what Clippers are looking for in return (I guess depends on how their offseason goes) but don't see them getting anything too great since most good teams don't have a need for a center, he'll be 29 in a month and he only has 1 year guaranteed left (player option for 18-19 which he'll probably opt out of to get one last big contract) .

Bucks get: Deandre Jordan
Clippers get: #17, Vaughn, Henson, Teletovic

Could swap Henson and Teletovic for Monroe if he opts in. This return would be decent if Clippers were aiming to rebuild.

Celtics get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Horford, Clippers 2019 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Boston needs a rebounder at center position and still keep cap space for Hayward and other moves. Clippers get draft picks including their own back and a versatile big that is signed a year longer than Jordan.

Bulls get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Lopez, Valentine and #16 pick

Bulls get an all-nba player to add to Butler and still have cap space to make a splash in FA. Could alternatively incorporate Wade if he opts in. Clippers get a solid pick and hometown solid starting big in Lopez and young prospect in Valentine.

Cavs get: Jordan
Clippers get: Thompson and Frye

Not sure if really makes Cavs better but Jordan is bigger force on interior and Clippers get a younger big that is signed 3 more years.

Wizards: Jordan
Clippers: Gortat and Bogdanovic (S&T)

Gortat is reportedly unhappy with Wizards so they upgrade on him while Clipper get two solid players in return.

Spurs and his hometown Rockets would also be good destinations but couldn't think of a trade that would really make sense for both sides (some of these are a stretch as is) .

21 Jun 2017 11:10:57
I think the clippers want pg. In that way they might keep cp3 and blake. Give the assets to indy.
If pg leaves in 2018 they still have cp3 and blake.
Think a firstrounder in the range 12-16 is enough because lakers can't offer much.

20 Jun 2017 03:20:14
LAL

LAL/SAC

LAL get #5 , Afflalo & Cauley-Stein

SAC get #2 , Deng & Randle

LAL/IND

LAL get Paul George

IND get HOU 1st , Jordan Clarkson , Tim Mozgov & future unprotected 1st

LAL
draft D'Aaron Fox or Lonzo Ball
sign Blake Griffin

Pg Russell/Fox
Sg George/Young
Sf Ingram/Brewer
Pf Griffin/Nance Jr
Ce Cauley-Stein/Zubac

16 Jun 2017 14:42:18
Nets Get: Ryan Anderson, 43rd pick, 45th pick

Rockets Get: Pacers 2018 2nd


Houston need to clear significant cap space if they're serious about entering the Chris Paul sweepstakes. Brooklyn might be able to acquire richer compensation from other teams that are looking to offload ugly contracts (Portland at 26, Phoenix at 32), but Anderson possesses legitimate value as an elite stretch four and Brooklyn would be able to flip him for another pick. Also, the Pacers 2nd is protected from 45-60 from 2018 to 2022, eventually becoming unprotected in 2023, so Brooklyn shouldn't be unwilling to give it up.

16 Jun 2017 14:52:13
I'm not too sure what his contract looks like, but if it's not too bad years-wise I would think the Sixers would trade a 2nd rounder or 2 for him.

16 Jun 2017 15:23:44
i like the idea of clearing the cap space and everything but why i don't think they should go after cp3 because harden is way better when he has the ball most of the tome as we saw this year. cp3 and him would take away from each others producton. i say look to sign a big or trade their assets for an all star that compliments harden.

16 Jun 2017 03:27:30
Houston Rockets Offseason

•Draft:
43- Devin Robinson
45- PJ Dozier

-Waive Isaiah Taylor, Kyle Wiltjer

•Free Agency:
-Sign Dante Cunningham 1yr 7m
-Re-sign Nene 1yr 10m
-Sign Brandon Rush 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Harden, Williams, Dozier
SG: Beverley, Gordon, Rush
SF: Ariza, Dekker, Robinson
PF: Anderson, Cunningham, Harrell
C: Capela, Nene, Onuaku.

16 Jun 2017 04:31:21
Then in 2018 they can sign an all star to be Harden's sidekick. (Cousins, Jordan, George, or someone else possibly)

16 Jun 2017 07:20:10
Do Rockets have that much cap space to sign an all-star in 2018 or even offer 17 mill to FA?

16 Jun 2017 20:33:33
Yes, might have to trade a 5 mil contract to do it but they can. 17 mil without a doubt. They are at around 75 mil in salary in 18-19 season.

14 Jun 2017 22:40:23
Jazz - Knicks - Magic

Jazz gets:
O'Quinn
44th (Bulls via Knicks)
58th (Rockets via Knicks)

Knicks gets:
Biyombo

Magic gets:
Noah
24th pick (Jazz)


Utah have 2 first round picks and trade one of them for a backup Center and two 2nd round pick (draft and stash)

Knicks get a young backup center that will help them protect the paint.

Magic gets a leader in Noah that played for Florida in college and a late 1st to rebuild with.

15 Jun 2017 23:30:46
Why would the jazz want two second round picks when they already have two!? Makes no sense!

14 Jun 2017 16:29:49
IF YOU CAN MAKE THE SPLASH IN FA. ITS BEST CASE SENARIO WITHOUT BLOWING UP THE BIG 3
4trade team deal sign and trade
Cavs get Hayward
Jazz get W Chandler plus something like a pick (lets say one or two second rounders)
Nuggets getT Thompson plus 2ndround pick/youngplayer from nets
Nets get Shumpert

Makes sense for nuggets because they get a quality center who can cover up for jokic deficiencies and nets get a good player for nothing. Nuggets can later trade plumlee and nets shumpert to other teams

With that trade cavs have saved 28 million. let's say they give hayward around 20-22 mill. If they add the MLE and Lebron gets a paycut they have around 10-12 million to spend for a quality center. Now Paul Millsap would be a reach but I believe Serge Freaking IBAKA would sign with the cavs. Alternative options are Dedmon of spurs and Amir Johnson Taj Gibson and Andrew Bogut.

Then use bird rights to resign Korver . Resign Frye. Offer minimums to NENE (he is a ring chaser and took a minimum to play for houston) Speights (knows warriors philosophy) beno udrih/jose calderon

Depht Chart
PG Irving/Udrih/D Will
SG (Hayward)/Korver/JR Smirh
SF LeBron/ (Hayward)/Jefferson
PF Love/ Frye
C Ibaka(or any of the other mentioned)/Speights/Nene

14 Jun 2017 16:53:57
Why does Utah, Brooklyn, or Denver do this?

14 Jun 2017 17:27:48
Get your head down and read why it makes sense. Why doesn't it?

14 Jun 2017 17:28:11
Why doesn't it make sense I mean.

14 Jun 2017 18:11:35
None of those teams outside of Cleveland would even consider it, especially Utah.

14 Jun 2017 18:24:22
Hayward is not going to sign a contract for 20-22 million especially on a S&T.

13 Jun 2017 15:53:45
Cavs get Ryan Anderson, Beverly, Capela, and Anthony

Houston gets Love and O'quinn

The Knicks get Howard, Shumpert, Felder, 2021 1st cle, 20201st Hou, and 2 2nds Atl

13 Jun 2017 16:53:31
That's actually not bad except Howard hating his life. But where doesn't he? lol I honestly don't feel the Cavs will trade any of the Big Three and trade to add around them and get another star or even two if they are lucky. Look for the Cavs to add Wade and Melo without giving up the big three. Melo through trade. Wade through FA if lucky, maybe more likely a reduced salary sign and trade.

13 Jun 2017 17:30:31
Tristan to Atlanta my bad.

13 Jun 2017 17:33:08
As a Cavs fan, Wade on the bench would be amazing, but I don't see him opting out. In the wise words of Randy Moss, " Straight cash homie. "

13 Jun 2017 17:44:09
How does Howard fit in here? He's not in Houston anymore.

13 Jun 2017 17:57:15
Not sure who the Howard is (Dwight Howard left Rockets in FA to ATL last offseason) but salary doesn't work for Cleveland with Anthony making more than Love and Anderson making double what Shumpert makes not to mention Beverly and Capela's contracts. If Channing Frye is sent to Knicks it could work if Cleveland uses a trade exception.

That would be a very solid return on Love and Shumpert for Cavs. I like pickups of Beverly and Capela (only issue is he'll be expensive to keep around) but not crazy about the Anderson and Anthony part. Cavs biggest issues were on the defensive end (they weren't a good defensive team all season) and these are two great offensive players but liabilities on defense end. Love isn't much of a defensive player either (but he is a great rebounder) but I think if they deal him it should include a starting caliber two-way or primarily defensive sf/ pf.

10 Jun 2017 14:20:58
Lakers trade 2 and Mozgov to Sac for 5 and 10th picks and anything else they can pry out of Sac.

Lakers trade 10th pick to Portland for 15th and 20th picks.

Lakers trade 20th pick and Deng to Minnesota for Rubio.

Lakers draft best available at 5

Lakers offer 15 and 28 (acquired from Houston) for George...(his trade value is low...otherwise would wait until free agency) and draft at 5. If George is a no...offer 28 for Melo straight up.

10 Jun 2017 14:40:17
All trades are jokes.

10 Jun 2017 14:57:33
I forgot to mention that this is basically a salary dump to make up for the idiocy of signing Mozgov and Deng. Would consider sweetening the deal to 5 for George, if it's win now. But I think #5 could still be better than #1 (whoever falls there) . The Lakers could potentially turn the #2 into George, Melo, draft picks and cap space. Considering the real possibility of losing the #2 outright, I'd say do it now!

10 Jun 2017 16:28:42
Won't even get #5 and #10 for #2.
Maybe #10 for mozgov and #2.
He gets 50 million the next 3 years. No teams want that if you don't overpay.

10 Jun 2017 16:50:55
THIs is flat out the stupidest post ever on here. The 2 turns into 39 draft picks Paul George and Carmelo Anthony. Why did you waste so much time?

10 Jun 2017 17:38:40
The first two trades actually make a lot of sense, but I would substitute Deng for Mozgov. The Kings already have a bunch of guys up front, but could use help on the wing. If they're going to bring on that salary, they might as well do it for a guy who might help a little.

I don't think that's going to get Rubio. They're willing to keep him if they don't get a deal they like. 5 and Deng would probably be too much for him, but 20 is not enough. 15 might be something they would go for.

That deal for George is a joke though, and someone will offer something better for Melo than 28. The deal you have in place for George might get Melo though. with a couple of pieces for salary.

All in all though, unless they think Ball is the man, they could think about doing some of this.

11 Jun 2017 04:25:41
Portland would rather dump Turner and 26th pick for a late 2nd rounder and a rain tarp. Moving up from 15th to 10th doesn't get Portland a defensive PF or SF that they need.

03 Jun 2017 18:16:31
Knicks/ Wolves/ Blazers

To NYK - Rubio, Crabbe

To MIN - Lee, pick # 20

To POR - Quinn, Houston 2nd via NYK, 2018 2nd from Minny

Rumor has it that though Rubio was great last year, especially after the deadline, he still is banking on Dunn being the future, and would like to add Rose for the present. As such, Minny moves Rubio and gets pick 20 along with a reliable shooter off the bench.

Knicks get their starting backcourt with Rubio and Crabbe. They take on an additional $18M in salary, but they have the room to do so.

Portland clears a big contract while getting a quality backup big and a couple of second round picks which they can use on draft and stash players.

03 Jun 2017 20:13:02
I like this trade, if NY can't trade Carmelo.

04 Jun 2017 00:27:00
I like the trade for Minnesota. I would draft Jordan Bell with the 29th pick.

02 Jun 2017 21:04:55
Bucks/Lakers/Nets

Bucks get Clarkson
- Move Clarkson to backup G and start Delly and Malcom

Lakers get Lopez
- Although he is an exp deal he will help the lakers win more this year and open cap (they don't have a first next year so little is lost)

Nets get: Mozgov, Henson, Vaughn, Lakers 1st (via Houston)
- nets gain a third 1st round pick, take on a contract that will help them reach cap floor, and two players under reasonable deals so if they start producing they can gain more picks

03 Jun 2017 02:43:23
Nets say no way.

03 Jun 2017 04:27:53
Bucks don't need Clarkson but I think its solid value and he'd improve their bench.

Lakers are getting too much. That offer without Mozgov is probably not even enough to get Lopez alone so I don't think Nets would take that offer with Mozgov's bad contract included too.

02 Jun 2017 13:24:03
Knicks/ Blazers

To NYK - Pick 20, Turner, Napier

To POR - Houston 2nd, O'Quinn

Sounds like the Blazers and Knicks have talked trade recently.

Knicks are looking for an extra first, Blazers are looking to cut salary. I believe Turner, while overpaid by $4-$5M would still be a good fit in NY. He thrives as a primary ball handler, and would make an excellent sixth man/ point forward for the team. Napier gives them some depth at the PG spot.

Blazers save about $15M, and add a depth center, which comes in handy with Ezeli not re-signing. They can draft and stash the Houston pick.

03 Jun 2017 00:06:12
Take Napier out of the deal and it is a go.

01 Jun 2017 16:28:18
SAS - LAL - NYK

SAS get: Jordan Clarkson and Julius Randle

pg. Parker/ Clarkson
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Randle
c. Gasol

LAL get: Lamarcus Aldridge and Carmelo Anthony
Draft: Lonzo Ball

pg. Russell
sg. Ball
sf. Anthony/ Ingram
pf. Aldrige
c. Zubac

NYK get: Luol Deng, 2017 1st DP SAS, and 2017 1st DP HOU (via LAL)
Draft: Frank Ntilinka (8)
Jordan Bell (28)
Rodions Kurucs (29)

pg. Ntilinka
sg. Lee
sf. Kuzminskas
pf. Porzingis
c. Hernangomez

01 Jun 2017 16:52:46
No from SAS and NYK.

01 Jun 2017 17:01:10
that trade is incredibly sided in the Lakers favor.

01 Jun 2017 18:19:42
The Spurs are looking to drop salary. Unless they can do that, a trade doesn't make sense for them.

26 May 2017 01:08:12
LAL-BKN

LAL : B.Lopez

BKN : T.Mozgov + J.Randle + HOU pick 2017 + 2nd round pick

LAL-IND

LAL : P.George + 18th pick

IND : 2nd pick + J.Clarkson + J.Randle + L.Deng

LAL sign B.Griffin , T.Jones

PG : D.Russell-T.Ennis-draft
SG : B.Ingram-N.Young
SF : P.George-C.Brewer
PF : B.Griffin-L.Nance-T.Jones
CE : B.Lopez-I.Zubac

26 May 2017 13:01:43
Well, you have Randle going in both trades, so that's an issue. Other than that, I think the Indy trade could definitely work. They need to get what they can for him, and if they're able to get this much out of the Lakers, I think that's likely the most they'll get. He's kind of torpedoed his trade value.

For the Nets trade, I'm not sure if the Houston pick would be high enough to bring on Mozgov's contract. I think they can probably get a higher pick to help someone out.

26 May 2017 15:10:52
The first trade seems terrible for Brooklyn. Randle is about to get 15 millionish in free agency and is probably a 3rd big on most playoff teams. Lopez is still a borderline allstar and a late 1st seems light to off load Mozgov.

Replace Randle with Russell and the 2nd deal seems solid.

23 May 2017 04:25:33
IND-LAL

i assume if PG wants to go to LA anyway

IND : B.Ingram + J.Randle + L.Deng + future 1st round pick

LAL : P.George

LAL-LAC-PHI

LAL : D.Jordan + J.Crawford

LAC : J.Okafor + 2018 PHI 1st top 5 protected + J.Clarkson + HOU 1st via LAL

PHI : D'Russell + T.Mozgov + 2nd from LAL


LAL draft L.Ball

LAL signings

G.Hayward - max
P.Gasol - let him finish his career in LA
J.Jack-vet min

PG : L.Ball-J.Jack-T.Ennis
SG : G.Hayward-J.Crawford
SF : P.George-C.Brewer
PF : L.Nance-P.Gasol
CE : D.Jordan-I.Zubac

23 May 2017 04:40:12
No way the Clippers help out the Lakers and no way they take that package for DJ.

If anything the Clippers will look for a way to steal Paul George away from the Lakers since he actually grew up a Clippers fan.

23 May 2017 07:25:44
Take out ingram.

23 May 2017 10:13:09
Indy would want Ingram and Russell or the 2nd pick.
We better keep PG13 if, that's the only thing LA offers.

23 May 2017 16:37:58
@gassupo go ahead and keep him, we'd rather sign him as a FA anyway lol.

22 May 2017 04:35:50
IND-LAL-PHI

IND : J.Okafor + B.Ingram + LAL 2018 1st from PHI + HOU 1st 2017

LAL : P.George

PHI : L.Deng + D.Russell

22 May 2017 05:43:42
To much for the contract of deng.

22 May 2017 17:09:03
Lakers fan? . philly is giving up too much even before taking on dengs contract.

19 May 2017 19:02:55
Lakers Lopez extension nets late picks I believe they have 2 late 1st rounders

Nets 2nd pick Deng Mozgof

Nets Draft Lonzo Ball

Lakers 2018 sign George he will come since Lopez will be there Lakers then trade Randle Clarkson both nets pick from Lopez trade plus the hou pick for butler

Russell
Butler
George ingram
Nance
Lopez Zubac

19 May 2017 19:57:14
The Nets would absolutely jump on that, but I don't think the Lakers would do it. For the second trade, I don't think that's nearly enough for Butler.

19 May 2017 20:38:46
Getting Lopez and moving Deng and Mozgovs contracts would be smart moves for Lakers but if it takes giving up the #2 pick to do so I don't think its worth it. Adding the two late 1sts I don't think changes that. If Lakers give up #2 pick it should be for a superstar period. Lopez is a very good player but I wouldn't consider him a superstar and on an expiring contract I don't think his value is that high (Nets shopped him hard last season and couldn't even get a mid first for him) .

There is likely a deal here somewhere with Nets willing to take on bad contracts for assets but I don't see Lakers giving up much more than Houston pick, Randle/ Nance, Clarkson in order to get Nets to take on Deng and/ or Mozgov. Maybe if they included a 1st or two Lakers would add Russell but I see that the best Lakers would offer. Lakers can always just sign Lopez in FA if they clear cap space.

18 May 2017 06:59:53
DAL-LAL

DAL : D'Angelo Russell + T.Mozgov + HOU 1st round pick

LAL : N.Noel (st) + 9th pick

18 May 2017 13:54:54
Russell has a little more value than Noel, but not nearly that much.

18 May 2017 17:53:33
Not a fan of the move for the Mavs. Finding another starting caliber center is difficult and Mavs may potentially be able to add a quality pg prospect with #9 pick. Or they could add a stretch big like Markkanen or Collins to be Dirks heir.

18 May 2017 03:58:05
Nets Deng hou pick

Lakers cap space


Nets came out in said they will take bad contract for a pick

18 May 2017 04:38:30
Unless Nets get a better offer from Portland to take their bad contracts I see no reason why Nets would say no to this. Lakers could also sub Clarkson for the 1st which would clear even more cap space for them and give Nets a youngish solid player.

18 May 2017 15:14:45
I'm cool with either scenario.

18 May 2017 15:29:29
What a waste of cap space just to get a pick.

18 May 2017 17:04:44
Lakers would obviously have to get something. Would it be the Nets 2nd they got from Boston, $1 in cash considerations, or the draft rights to a 35 year old who was drafted 12 years ago?

18 May 2017 17:15:51
That's a lot of cash coming back for just the Houston pick. but I like the train of thought, and I've been thinking along the same lines with Noah and the Knicks. If you combine those thoughts:

Nets trade: Lopez, Booker
Nets get: Deng, Noah, Rockets pick, Knicks pick, LAL 2nd rounder

Lakers trade: Rocket's 1st rounder, own 2nd rounder, Deng, Clarkson
Lakers get: Melo, Booker

Knicks trade: Melo, own 1st round
Knicks get: Lopez, Clarkson


Nets get draft picks, but lose their financial flexibility for the next three years. By the time their picks develop, they have both Deng and Noah coming off the books. They'll wind up with 5 picks in this draft, so they can go ahead and stash a few overseas to get he most bang for their buck.

Lakers bring in Melo and Booker to bolster their frontline, as they look to start being relevant again with Ball, Russell, Randle and Ingram in the mix.

Knicks bring in sure things in Clarkson and Lopez instead of one rookie, and are able to offload Noah and get something real for Melo in the process. Jackson already said he's not expecting anything from a rookie, so he likely wouldn't mind moving the pick. They'll have room to make a signing or two as well, so they can sign a SG or SF as well. I'd look for a guy like Redick, and bring in a defensive guy like Tucker or Thabo.

14 May 2017 23:59:43
Lakers PG13 Lopez extension

Pacers Top 3 pick Randle Deng

Nets Clarkson Mozgof Hou pick

Russell
Ingram
George
Nance Jr
Lopez

15 May 2017 02:19:13
I think it'll take more than the pick and Randle to get George especially if they want to include Deng's large contract too.

Nets would be smart to get whatever they can for Lopez's expiring contract. Clarkson is a youngish piece and the Houston first helps to stomach Mozgov's large contract so I don't think its a bad return.

Lopez would be a decent center for Lakers to get and being from Cali gives them an advantage to resign him. Lopez is a great offensive force with 3pt range and solid post up game while not a terrible defender/ rim protector. Where he lacks is rebounding.

15 May 2017 03:33:48
So lakers dump horrible contracts and still get the most valuable pieces in both deals? Please get real.

10 May 2017 01:57:02
Lakers draft Lonzo Ball

Sign Gordon Hayward to max

Trade Russell, Randle, Deng, 17'1st via Rockets for Boogie, Pondexter, Ajinca

Stretch Mozgov's contract

Ball-Ennis
Hayward-Clarkson-Young
Ingram-Pondexter-Brewer
Boogie-Nance Jr
Zuvac-Ajinca.

10 May 2017 04:57:27
I'm not sure why New orleans would want to try Cousins already. They started to play fairly well towards the end of the season.

10 May 2017 07:39:05
Don't think Hayward would consider going to LA. That trade also doesn't really help the Pelicans at all since doesn't improve their cap flexibility and if they can't get Cousins and AD to work Randle and AD would be even worse. Additionally they can just keep Jrue Holiday to run the point who played well in stretches but needs to adjust to new role with adding a top bigman like Cousins. I think a full offseason together will do wonders. I think resiging Holiday is a no-brainer since Pelicans aren't going to be able to afford a comparable replacement in FA.

10 May 2017 15:16:35
We need a button that is five times stronger than "unbelievable"

 
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