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29 Sep 2018 17:57:21
Precursor to a Buter to Miami deal...

Okc gets Bender
Phx gets Lin, Dedmon
Atl gets Whiteside
Mia gets Chandler, Abrines

Salaries check out.

Okc gets another frontcourt shooter who can add to the competition for the starting 4 spot and alleviates a bit of the logjam at the wing. They get another controllable year. They might not be able to keep Abrines next season anyways.

Phoenix cashes in on Tyson who doesn't fit anyways. They get a starting point. Both contracts are expiring so no extended money beyond this year but both guys are vets who can help the young squad.

Atlanta takes a stab at reviving Whiteside's value. This also targets two years out of having tons of cap space to put talent around their core of young and Collins. Maybe a pick goes there too?

Miami gets expiring contracts. They flip them in a deal for Butler. Wins all around maybe?




22 Sep 2018 15:32:25
Suns get Schroder, Abrines
***A point to run things and a shooter to spread the floor who should fit nicely with Ayton. Gets them out of a long term deal on the wing, paving the way for Bridges and Jackson.

Wolves get Roberson, Warren, Harrison, OKC 1st, PHX 2nd
***If Jimmy wants out and they want to remain somewhat competitive, why not go get two guys who separately give you what Butler gives you collectively? Roberson is lockdown on D at multiple positions. Warren has a similar offensive game and is improving on D. Getting the picks are the sweetener. I don't think they'll see a significantly better deal than this honestly. And if it's all about keeping Towns, they can flip Roberson for an expiring deal at the deadline and a pick. Warren and the picks allows you to get a player who can play Butler's role at a discounted price and keep your franchise guy.

Thunder get Jimmy Butler, Jones, Bender
***Mock me. Go ahead. I posted the George trade to okc multiple times in the year leading up to the deal and was mocked. Then the trade happened and George resigned. Lightning strikes twice for the Thunder. They bet on themselves and a shot at a title to keep Butler. This would be a killer lineup but with big risk. Scared money don't make none.

I get it. That's not a preferred destination. That's a deal hinging in Phoenix wanting Dennis. Presti convinced Indy that Oladipo before he exploded and a rookie were enough for George. No picks involved. If it happens, Western Conference finals will be 🔥 🔥 🔥


1.) 22 Sep 2018 16:13:35
NY, LA, Miami. In that order and likelihood butler enters training camp or pre-season in one of those cities. Unless someone pulls a raptors-Leonard move.

2.) 22 Sep 2018 17:56:53
I think Butler traded in December when players can be traded that were signed this year. it's going to be more options for the wolves. I want Butler in the Lakers even if he leaves but I like this trade. Those are two nice players signed to stay years in Miny and gel with towns and Wiggins.

3.) 22 Sep 2018 18:24:46
He's sitting out training camp II, until he's traded.

4.) 22 Sep 2018 21:36:10
I believe that when I see it. For all I know they can trade Wiggins and sign Butler to that money he wants.

5.) 22 Sep 2018 23:41:34
Pretty lopsided to OKC.

6.) 23 Sep 2018 00:57:06
He's been excused from "all early on-court activities" Whatever that means? I took it as meaning out until further notice.



19 Sep 2018 23:50:15
Could lightning strike twice for the Thunder? They went and grabbed George a little over a year ago when he was "bound" for the Lakers. He was convinced after one season to stay long term. Why not try again with Butler?

Okc gets Jimmy Butler, JaMychal Green
***All in. This bumps their tax bill but it'll be worth it when they beat the Warriors in the western conference finals and make a run at a title.

Grizz get Alex Abrines
***Grizz grab a shooter and a teammate of Gasol from the Spain national team

TWolves get Andre Roberson, Patrick Patterson, Terrance Ferguson, 1st rounder
***I don't think that the Wolves want to send Jimmy to his preferred teams. Those teams may also not want to forfeit talent and try their hand at adding him in FA. Enter the Thunder. They get a first, a defensive ace, a young asset, and a floor spacing 4.



1.) 20 Sep 2018 03:43:11
The T-Wolves will not trade Butler to a division rival.

2.) 20 Sep 2018 16:37:21
No it could not.



03 Aug 2018 17:02:29
Memphis gets Alex Abrines and Kyle Singler

OKC gets Garrett Temple and Dakari Johnson

Memphis would do well to pair Abrines with Gasol who play on the Spain national team together. Singler needs a change of scenery and is partially guaranteed next season.

Thunder get a great backup 3 who could play closeout minutes and has an expiring deal. Dakari was developing well for the Thunder, comes back, and they still save money.




25 Jul 2018 22:55:17
Okc gets Simmons
Orlando gets Singler, Ferguson

Okc gets a great rotational wing who could compete with Dre for that starting 2 spot and play great d in those future warrior games.

Orlando gets a great prospect in Ferguson and Singler who has a partially guaranteed deal next year.


1.) 26 Jul 2018 00:41:45
No Magic declined that deal Terrance Ross 2020 second round pick for Singler and Ferguson Johnathan Simmons is untouchable.

2.) 26 Jul 2018 00:45:03
Simmons is still a better prospect, and they don't have to take singler. There's no incentive.

3.) 26 Jul 2018 17:11:30
Ferguson is not a great prospect.

4.) 26 Jul 2018 18:23:47
I could only see them take Singler for Ross to gain some cap space and they could ask for a 2nd round pick, but I think that would be a bad trade on the Thunder's side if they gave up another pick.
It's a big roll of the dice for a one year rental that will add 5 mill more to salary and a huge amount more to the luxury tax amount.
Especially since no one knows how well he has recovered from his injury last year.

5.) 26 Jul 2018 19:31:00
He said Jonathan Simmons is untouchable Hahahaha are you forreal? That’s actually a fair trade. Everyone knows exactly what you get with Simmons. Ferguson in the other hand is very young and has a lot of potential. Watch some more bball.




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16 Jun 2017 02:17:35
OKC needs a shot blocker, stretch 4, versatility, size on the wing, etc...

If they get lucky, they find a team to take Kanter without getting much else back. Stretch Singler. Renounce Roberson.

Two guys who make a lot of sense on the current roster (don't laugh): Serge Ibaka and Jeff Green.

Sure, Ibaka wanted out and wanted a bigger role. Well. He can have it now, AND go back to the team that drafted/developed him.

Next you have Green. He showed promise for the Thunder but was never a four despite being stuck there for OKC. He can come back and slide into a more natural position at the 3. He'll be way less expensive after disappearing a bit in Orlando but still has some talent.

Resign Taj and convince him being the big off the bench in Kanter's role is the right move for him. Cut Christon and Cole and hope you get a solid point in FA and draft one at 21.




1.) 17 Jun 2017 06:24:49
Not bad but I don't think OKC has cap for this and where's McDermott?



08 Jun 2017 19:33:28
Whats the best return OKC can get for Russ?


1.) 08 Jun 2017 20:39:40
LAL- #2, Russell, and Ingram
BOS- #1, (Thomas to a 3rd team), Nets 2018, Yabusele.



03 Jun 2017 18:18:38
Let me see your best Russ Westbrook trade scenario.

Russ to Wolves?

Russ to Lakers?

Russ to Sixers?

Russ to Boston?

Russ to....?


1.) 03 Jun 2017 23:21:35
2nd pick, Russell and Clarkson for Westbrook?

2.) 04 Jun 2017 11:27:22
Russ to OKC for more years.



02 Jun 2017 15:49:53
Whats the best OKC could do on a Westbrook return? He's a top 10 player and deserves more than what the Thunder can give him.

OKC could restock and bide their time developing young guys and wait until things open back up. So many other teams in win-now mode. Russ has that killer instinct and endless motor.

They could call teams like Boston, LA, Spurs, Sixers, etc. What could they get back? what's the best they could do?

Lets see in the comments.


1.) 02 Jun 2017 16:59:34
I think LA and Boston would be their best bet.

Boston would probably be something like 2 of the Brooklyn picks, and Brown and then whatever a third team would give up for Thomas (something like 3 solid picks or young players) .

The Lakers would give Igram, Russell, the 2, and then one of their lesser prospects and maybe a little more if they were willing to take on Mozgov or Deng.

I don't see many other teams with the young talent and picks and current roster/ ability to sign a free agent to team up with Russell to make the price worth it to make an offer attractive enough to pull Russell under the current circumstances. Obviously if he says he's walking things change.

2.) 02 Jun 2017 17:19:57
Church ---
All the teams you mentioned have assets, but at what cost?
Boston has draft picks into the next century, but is not going to give all of them up. And all that would do is drop OKC to Phoenix level for 3-4 and depress the fan base.
The Lakers would do something, but the cupboard would be bare when Westbrook gets there.
San Antonio plays team ball and would not abandon that to become The Westbrook Show.
Philly won't give up Simmons or Embiid, and anything else they have won't get the trade done.



27 May 2017 16:20:47
If this Kanter accusation gets serious, do the Thunder look to wipe his salary from the books (either getting an exemption from the league or waiving him)?


1.) 28 May 2017 04:50:00
Hahahah a be quiet. A ridiculous dictator made a bs accusation. Just stop.




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06 Jun 2018 14:17:08
This would be huge for Memphis. Love and Gasol would be nasty. Kemba would be an upgrade over Conley. Plus they shed Parsons? Worth it giving up the 4th pick.




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27 Oct 2017 16:22:14
Would rather have Jokic over Cousind tbh.




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28 Sep 2017 04:06:45
That's not even the chandler they need. Try putting together a respectable and doable Tyson chandler deal. He'd be a fantastic backup 5.




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03 Aug 2017 14:16:28
Appreciate the shoutout! Just can't see us moving Adams unless it's a younger, more locked in star. He's very valuable.




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05 Jul 2017 18:02:21
Sick of hearing about losing Harden.

We offered him the deal he wanted. He didn't accept because of his role. We in turn hit the phones. Called GSW first. They wouldn't give up Thompson. We called Wiz second. They wouldn't give up Beal. We called Houston third. We landed Martin (stop gap), Lamb (bust), and the pick that turned into Steven Adams. None are equivalent to Harden. Sure. But all that crap about not paying Harden is incorrect.





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