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11 Jun 2017 21:34:38
If Russ doesn't sign an extension this summer...

Boston gets Russ, Deng, OKC '17 first

Lakers get #1 overall pick, Al Horford

Thunder get #2 overall pick, Crowder, Russell, Ingram, Brown

Boston can move Thomas if they want, or start him at point and slide Russ over. They can still be a huge player in FA to get even better.

Lakers get to draft Fultz and build towards recruiting George next season.

OKC gets to rebuild with lots of young talent. They go on to get rid of Kanter's deal, let Dre walk, and put together a nice young core.


Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 11 Jun 2017 23:09:01
You had me at Russ. Then you lost me after that.


2.) 11 Jun 2017 23:27:30
So Lakers gives up #2 pick Russell Ingram Deng for #1 pick al horford lol Lakers pass.


3.) 12 Jun 2017 03:06:54
I think its more realistic for Lakers to deal for Westbrook directly. Westbrook is from that area, played college ball there and expressed interest going back there before he resigned in OKC. He should definitely be interested in they are able to attract George as well.


4.) 12 Jun 2017 03:58:21
Lakers might need a little more. I would think #2 and Russell are almost enough for the 1. But Ingram is much more valuable than horford.... although deng is a big minus I don't think it evens it out.


 

 

10 Jun 2017 20:39:59
Draft Day Trade

OKC gets:
Melo
Plumlee

NY gets:
Kanter
Singler
Sabonis
OKC first

NY pairs Porzingis with Sabonis and keep Kanter as a super-sub. This helps give direction to the team and build around Porzingis.

OKC gets a secondary scorer for Russ. Let Roberson walk. Next, they target Mirotic in FA if possible. Would provide a stretch 4 and bring out the best in Mirotic. Offer Mid-Level to Taj to keep him around. He can play the Kanter role but bring toughness, defense that Kanter never could. Finally, target a backup point guard. Thunder return to relevance. Maybe not a contender, but worth watching.

Russ, FA
Oladipo, Abrines
Melo, Grant
Mirotic, Gibson
Adams, Plumlee

ChurchPugh

1.) 10 Jun 2017 22:42:09
Save some ammo. NY Daily News says that PJax is just about ready to give Anthony away to any team that will agree to pay his salary.


2.) 10 Jun 2017 22:46:59
Knicks don't need Kanter for Crowder. Swap Abrines for Singler.


3.) 11 Jun 2017 00:55:10
I don't think people get that Melo could be had for a second of a team had the space, Kanter for Melo seems fair until Melo uses the no-trade clause.


4.) 11 Jun 2017 01:26:55
Solid trade for OKC, but they can't sign Mirotic because they are 8M over the cap both before and after that trade. Nevertheless, they can sign both Gibson with MLE and a solid backup Pg with vet. Min.

Also they should resign Roberson over the cap (he is restricted Fa)
because they don't have clearly anybody in the frontcourt positions so they should probably start Carmelo at 4 and Roberson at 3.Melo and Oladipo would thrive in as number 2 and 3 offensive options respectively.

Russ/ FA/ Christon
Oladipo/ Abrines/ Roberson
Roberson/ MCdermott/ Grant
Carmelo/ Grant or Gibson/ Collison
Adams/ Gibson/ Plumlee.


5.) 11 Jun 2017 04:17:31
way way too much for Carmelo Anthony. wow.


6.) 11 Jun 2017 13:37:24
Literally all of supercollider knowledge comes from ny daily news. A source which is wildly considered inaccurate rubbish. Go on insider.

Trolll troll give us the troll.


7.) 13 Jun 2017 02:18:07
All the thunder would have to do is put singler for melo and it would work bc Jackson will give Anthony up for almost nothing and maybe add kanter to the trade to release some cap space.


8.) 13 Jun 2017 02:18:30
And use your first round pick to get someone like rosier from Boston.


 

 

08 Jun 2017 14:35:13
OKC, Minny

OKC gets Rubio, Pekovic

Minny gets Kanter, Singler, Christon

OKC solves their backup point questions while moving on from Kanter, Singler, Christon. They can flip Pek as an expiring contract to bring in a player before the deadline or allow them to be more of a player in FA next summer.

Minny can afford Kanter. His contract comes off the books when Towns will enter into his second deal. He can play the same role he does now or play next to Towns. Rubio has been subject of trade talks, and rumor has it Rose could be a target this summer. This deal could clear the way for that happening.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Jun 2017 15:27:22
Bad for Minnesota. They can likely get Pekovic wiped off the books via medical retirement. Kanter likely has less value than Rubio and a bigger contract than Rubio so I think Minnesota should be able to find better value elsewhere.


 

 

05 Jun 2017 14:08:36
Thunder get Melo

Suns get Kanter

Knicks get Knight, Singler, Bender, OKC 1st

Thunder get a scorer to put with Russ, Suns get an big who can score, and Knicks get to move on from Melo.

How far off are we?

ChurchPugh

1.) 05 Jun 2017 15:05:28
You're three players off. Anthony is worth maybe the OKC first. Nothing more than that. Or either Singler or Knight (but not Bender) .


2.) 05 Jun 2017 15:16:53
The suns are giving up a lot and receiving an almost negative return.


3.) 05 Jun 2017 15:20:17
well stated super troll.


4.) 05 Jun 2017 16:22:19
Kanter is only wanted in Turkey. not by PHX (and most other teams) . and most certainly not in a deal like this.


5.) 06 Jun 2017 03:04:18
Put knight and singler in and nothing else that's all Carmelo is worth or the first round pick and I like the idea of kanter going to the suns so they could get rid of knight and that salary of his for an elite scorer.


6.) 06 Jun 2017 04:29:40
That's cold Phxfan. Lol!


 

 

02 Jun 2017 15:37:18
OKC gets Crabbe and Thad Young

Indy gets Oladipo, Kanter, Singler

POR gets Ellis, Jefferson

OKC gets out of Kanter's deal and crosses their fingers that Crabbe lives up to the massive deal he signed in Portland.

Indy brings home Oladipo in a last ditch effort to hold onto George.

Portland bring in a big and a scorer to try and balance out their roster.


How far off are we here?

ChurchPugh

1.) 02 Jun 2017 16:05:50
Is okc just giving olidipo away for nothing in this deal?


2.) 02 Jun 2017 17:09:00
Portland trades for another overpaid big and another undersized guard. They also add more salary to the second highest payroll in the NBA. Oh, and they don't get any better? Makes sense.


3.) 02 Jun 2017 18:15:30
Technically they are getting Allen Crabbe and Thad Young but in relativity, yes they are getting nothing.


 

 

 

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16 Jun 2017 02:17:35
OKC needs a shot blocker, stretch 4, versatility, size on the wing, etc...

If they get lucky, they find a team to take Kanter without getting much else back. Stretch Singler. Renounce Roberson.

Two guys who make a lot of sense on the current roster (don't laugh): Serge Ibaka and Jeff Green.

Sure, Ibaka wanted out and wanted a bigger role. Well. He can have it now, AND go back to the team that drafted/developed him.

Next you have Green. He showed promise for the Thunder but was never a four despite being stuck there for OKC. He can come back and slide into a more natural position at the 3. He'll be way less expensive after disappearing a bit in Orlando but still has some talent.

Resign Taj and convince him being the big off the bench in Kanter's role is the right move for him. Cut Christon and Cole and hope you get a solid point in FA and draft one at 21.

Russ-FA-Rookie
Oladipo-Abrines
Green-Grant
Ibaka-Sabonis
Adams-Gibson

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 17 Jun 2017 06:24:49
Not bad but I don't think OKC has cap for this and where's McDermott?


 

 

08 Jun 2017 19:33:28
Whats the best return OKC can get for Russ?

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Jun 2017 20:39:40
LAL- #2, Russell, and Ingram
BOS- #1, (Thomas to a 3rd team), Nets 2018, Yabusele.


 

 

03 Jun 2017 18:18:38
Let me see your best Russ Westbrook trade scenario.

Russ to Wolves?

Russ to Lakers?

Russ to Sixers?

Russ to Boston?

Russ to....?

ChurchPugh

1.) 03 Jun 2017 23:21:35
Maybe
2nd pick, Russell and Clarkson for Westbrook?


2.) 04 Jun 2017 11:27:22
Russ to OKC for more years.


 

 

02 Jun 2017 15:49:53
Whats the best OKC could do on a Westbrook return? He's a top 10 player and deserves more than what the Thunder can give him.

OKC could restock and bide their time developing young guys and wait until things open back up. So many other teams in win-now mode. Russ has that killer instinct and endless motor.

They could call teams like Boston, LA, Spurs, Sixers, etc. What could they get back? what's the best they could do?

Lets see in the comments.

ChurchPugh

1.) 02 Jun 2017 16:59:34
I think LA and Boston would be their best bet.

Boston would probably be something like 2 of the Brooklyn picks, and Brown and then whatever a third team would give up for Thomas (something like 3 solid picks or young players) .

The Lakers would give Igram, Russell, the 2, and then one of their lesser prospects and maybe a little more if they were willing to take on Mozgov or Deng.

I don't see many other teams with the young talent and picks and current roster/ ability to sign a free agent to team up with Russell to make the price worth it to make an offer attractive enough to pull Russell under the current circumstances. Obviously if he says he's walking things change.


2.) 02 Jun 2017 17:19:57
Church ---
All the teams you mentioned have assets, but at what cost?
Boston has draft picks into the next century, but is not going to give all of them up. And all that would do is drop OKC to Phoenix level for 3-4 and depress the fan base.
The Lakers would do something, but the cupboard would be bare when Westbrook gets there.
San Antonio plays team ball and would not abandon that to become The Westbrook Show.
Philly won't give up Simmons or Embiid, and anything else they have won't get the trade done.


 

 

27 May 2017 16:20:47
If this Kanter accusation gets serious, do the Thunder look to wipe his salary from the books (either getting an exemption from the league or waiving him)?

ChurchPugh

1.) 28 May 2017 04:50:00
Hahahah a be quiet. A ridiculous dictator made a bs accusation. Just stop.


 

 

 

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15 Jun 2017 16:33:05
I think it's a great idea, but there's going to have to be at least one more piece or pick to the pacers (and I'm a thunder fan) .

Oladipo back in Indy makes sense. George in Cleveland makes sense. Love with Russ makes sense. Indy just needs a bit more.

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12 Feb 2017 05:02:02
Don't see nugget so accepting that but if they did I love it for the thunder! Would probably have to find a third team to take kanter in that deal. Don't see him as a fit in Denver.

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13 Nov 2016 02:39:05
Nick Collison will retire with the Thunder. Not getting traded.

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12 Aug 2016 02:14:46
Salary cap.

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05 Aug 2016 02:39:58
Maybe expand it to include Portland then? Kanter to Portland and either Crabbe or Turner to Denver? Portland tried to get Kanter when he was a RFA and he could unclog the logjam on the wings for them? Sorry if this posted twice. Wasn't sure if it went through the first try.

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