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14 Dec 2018 00:37:52
Suns get Fultz, Waiters, Muscala

Philly gets Olynyk, Bridges

Heat get Anderson, Melton

ChurchPugh

1.) 14 Dec 2018 03:24:51
Who does this help?


2.) 14 Dec 2018 05:24:29
Lol Sixers fan.


3.) 14 Dec 2018 15:40:59
Not a Suns fan that's for sure!


 

 

08 Dec 2018 23:52:21
Hahaha what if this happened?

Houston gets Gallinari, Gortat, Teodosic

Clips get Paul, Nene, Chriss

Houston has zero depth and are dying because they lack the role players that made them great last year.

Clips have soooo much depth but lack a true number one, end of the game, takes the last shot kind of guy. Paul is no where near where he used to be, but he could fit with this iteration of the clips.

Deal wouldn't happen until restrictions drop in January.

ChurchPugh

1.) 09 Dec 2018 00:24:23
Lmao no.


 

 

08 Dec 2018 15:31:51
Spurs get: Wiggins, Roberson, Patterson, 2nd via okc

Thunder get: Gasol, Okogie

Wolves get Aldridge, Metu

Spurs aren't making the playoffs. Instead, they get a defensive ace NEXT year in Roberson, and they take a chance on Wiggins. If Pop works his magic on him, he's worth moving Aldridge who isn't a fit in SA anyways.

Thunder basically turn Patterson into Gasol for this season as Dre is likely out for the year. Plus, Gasol coming off the bench next to Noel could be huge. Think Kanter and his impact in previous years offensively.

Wolves have been rumored to look at bringing Love home. But Aldridge is cheaper, and he has less years on his deal. He could work well with Towns as they each have a polished inside, outside game.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Dec 2018 16:18:55
Think wolves should get rid of their pg that's it.


2.) 08 Dec 2018 18:50:23
U thinks will get alridge lmao.


3.) 08 Dec 2018 20:34:20
Dont think any contender wants Aldridge. I'd rather open time for 2 PGs playing well.


4.) 09 Dec 2018 23:02:49
I don't like this for thunder. Gasol doesn't fit Thunders system right now.


 

 

27 Nov 2018 12:55:39
Both teams underachieving and need a change up. Why not hit the reset button and undo some moves?

Boston gets Joe Ingles, Alec Burks, Jae Crowder, future first

Utah gets Gordon Hayward, Semi Ojeleye, second rounder

Boston brings back Crowder who played very well there, get two role players (Burks in an expiring deal for $11M which is big), and we all know Ainge loves hoarding firsts.

Utah brings back their star to put with Mitchell and Gobert. This is a risk, but a needed one as they are at the bottom of the west when they could be competitive in the playoffs.

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 27 Nov 2018 13:53:55
I think it’s too much for Hayward. Replace Ingles with favors and remove the first think that’s better for both.


2.) 27 Nov 2018 14:20:16
Why not a fair trade?


3.) 28 Nov 2018 00:07:02
Doesn't make Boston better and makes Utah worse.


Boston needs to use picks (3 #1's) and trade a player (s) (Brown, Smart, Rozier) for a star.


Jazz are not going to trade a 1st to get GH back.


 

 

21 Nov 2018 13:51:53
Russ goes and follows Beal on Instagram but I feel like the better play for the Thunder is buying low on Wall. He's got a massive extension and causing turmoil with the Wiz, but he's still a huge talent and a change of scenery could return him to his stud form.

Wiz get Schroder, Roberson, Patterson, future 1st OKC

OKC gets Wall, Morris, Satoransky

Wiz get a replacement starter, a defensive ace, a stretch 4, and a first.

Thunder replicate the Rockets lineup last year with a backcourt of Wall and Westbrook. Morris slides into the starting lineup to provide spacing, and Satoransky plays the Schroder role.

Wall (Satoransky, Felton)
Russ (Abrines, Diallo)
PG13 (Ferguson, TLC)
Morris (Grant)
Adams (Noel)

ChurchPugh

1.) 21 Nov 2018 14:09:29
Never has shot the 3 well. When his quickness eludes him, with age and weight, his game will and does need better perimeter shooting. Drive and kick to get assists is what LBJ does @ 6'8" 250. Wall needs another trick for his pony!


2.) 21 Nov 2018 15:32:06
Wall is just Walmart Russ. How do you even play those 2 together?


3.) 21 Nov 2018 23:24:05
Wall wouldn't be a good fit. As a Thunder fan I don't think they have the assets needed to get beal and still have a decent bench, but they would need Beal not Wall.


 

 

 

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03 Nov 2018 20:46:31
Is there a way that okc adds griffin to their core of Russ, PG, and Adams by sending Schroder to a pg needy team like the suns and picks to the Pistons?

ChurchPugh

1.) 03 Nov 2018 21:08:22
With the casey hiring and the seeming interest in making the playoffs in DET, I'd have to say you couldn't get Griffin without talent and picks.


2.) 03 Nov 2018 21:17:23
Not the way griffin is playing. He’s been great. They’d want some real assets, not just a late first or two with a bad contract.


3.) 04 Nov 2018 14:30:45
I’m not sure Griffin is a good fit next to Westbrook. He likes the ball in his hands, he’s not much of a shooter, and he clogs the lane up. A potential starting line up that has Westbrook, Roberson, Griffin, and Adams is an offensive disaster in today’s NBA.


4.) 04 Nov 2018 17:34:46
Griffin shoots from all over the court and at a decent clip for a big man. Not sure why you say he only shoots from in the paint. He shot over 300 threes last year and currently shooting like 45% from deep. He doesn’t need the ball in his hands. He’s one of the best passing bigs in the league.

What are you basing that evaluation on?


5.) 05 Nov 2018 02:37:06
I suppose he’s a little better shooter than I was thinking, but he’s a career 33 percent shooter. It’s solid if you have other shooters, but he can’t be the 2nd best shooter in your starting lineup. Also, for him to make those passes he needs the ball. Having the ball in your hands doesn’t just mean that you are shooting. His usage rate is currently right between Lebron and Curry’s. Last year he was right inbetween DerozN and Wall. He’s at his best when the iffense runs through him and he can create for himself and others. Taking the ball out of his hands diminishes how effective he can be. He isn’t a spot up shooter. Plus, if you put him in the pick and role with Russ for large chunks of the game everyone, but the guy guarding George can basically collapse on them because Roberson and Adams can’t shoot. So in the starting lineup you’re basically going to use him as a spot up shooter? He’s also a below average defender. Why trade multiple picks/ players to pay a guy 35 Million that doesn’t fit in with your already expensive and thin team?


6.) 05 Nov 2018 18:12:34
Right. Point being, he actually has the ability to spread the offense, not condense it. That 33% is misleading, as it was when he was taking 1 or 2 3s a game. its likely more around 36ish, which is league average and great for a big man.

As to the usage rate, that really isn't a good statistic to look at in a vacuum. The team has no real pg. He scores a lot and passes very well. he's going to have the ball often. That statistic merely shows he is heavily involved. AKA, passing a lot and scoring efficiently.


7.) 05 Nov 2018 19:47:29
He was 31st last year among qualifying pfs in 3 point shooting percentage. He’s not putting great in anyone from 3 point range. He’s not worth the money or assets for the Thunder unless the rest of the roster is heavily overhauled.


8.) 05 Nov 2018 23:11:06
No one said he was elite at 3. You specifically said he has no range. Which you then admitted was incorrect to say. A pf that is averaging 25/ 11/ 5. You don’t think that’s of value?

The premise was they keep the core. So what, he isn’t a major major upgrade over grant?

Just stop it. Griffin is a top 30 player in the league and one could contend so far top 15. That team would be solid. Simply need to add a shooter or two, which there always available ones.


9.) 06 Nov 2018 16:54:14
I just don’t see Griffin as the missing link to make OKC a legitimate top 3 or 4 team in the league or make them a threat to upset the Warriors. If you’re going to give up the last few assets you have and lock in those kind of luxury payments that’s what he needs to be. He doesn’t complement the rest of the roster and he would be hard to maximize. I’m not arguing that adding Blake Griffin would make their team worse. If they could add him without giving players up for the minimum then sure great addition, but to get rid of a couple rotation players and more future picks doesn’t make sense. Using those some of those assets and money to go get guys like Ariza, Bazemore, and/ or Korver would make more sense, be cheaper, and imo make a bigger impact.


 

 

16 Jun 2017 02:17:35
OKC needs a shot blocker, stretch 4, versatility, size on the wing, etc...

If they get lucky, they find a team to take Kanter without getting much else back. Stretch Singler. Renounce Roberson.

Two guys who make a lot of sense on the current roster (don't laugh): Serge Ibaka and Jeff Green.

Sure, Ibaka wanted out and wanted a bigger role. Well. He can have it now, AND go back to the team that drafted/developed him.

Next you have Green. He showed promise for the Thunder but was never a four despite being stuck there for OKC. He can come back and slide into a more natural position at the 3. He'll be way less expensive after disappearing a bit in Orlando but still has some talent.

Resign Taj and convince him being the big off the bench in Kanter's role is the right move for him. Cut Christon and Cole and hope you get a solid point in FA and draft one at 21.

Russ-FA-Rookie
Oladipo-Abrines
Green-Grant
Ibaka-Sabonis
Adams-Gibson

Thoughts?

ChurchPugh

1.) 17 Jun 2017 06:24:49
Not bad but I don't think OKC has cap for this and where's McDermott?


 

 

08 Jun 2017 19:33:28
Whats the best return OKC can get for Russ?

ChurchPugh

1.) 08 Jun 2017 20:39:40
LAL- #2, Russell, and Ingram
BOS- #1, (Thomas to a 3rd team), Nets 2018, Yabusele.


 

 

03 Jun 2017 18:18:38
Let me see your best Russ Westbrook trade scenario.

Russ to Wolves?

Russ to Lakers?

Russ to Sixers?

Russ to Boston?

Russ to....?

ChurchPugh

1.) 03 Jun 2017 23:21:35
Maybe
2nd pick, Russell and Clarkson for Westbrook?


2.) 04 Jun 2017 11:27:22
Russ to OKC for more years.


 

 

02 Jun 2017 15:49:53
Whats the best OKC could do on a Westbrook return? He's a top 10 player and deserves more than what the Thunder can give him.

OKC could restock and bide their time developing young guys and wait until things open back up. So many other teams in win-now mode. Russ has that killer instinct and endless motor.

They could call teams like Boston, LA, Spurs, Sixers, etc. What could they get back? what's the best they could do?

Lets see in the comments.

ChurchPugh

1.) 02 Jun 2017 16:59:34
I think LA and Boston would be their best bet.

Boston would probably be something like 2 of the Brooklyn picks, and Brown and then whatever a third team would give up for Thomas (something like 3 solid picks or young players) .

The Lakers would give Igram, Russell, the 2, and then one of their lesser prospects and maybe a little more if they were willing to take on Mozgov or Deng.

I don't see many other teams with the young talent and picks and current roster/ ability to sign a free agent to team up with Russell to make the price worth it to make an offer attractive enough to pull Russell under the current circumstances. Obviously if he says he's walking things change.


2.) 02 Jun 2017 17:19:57
Church ---
All the teams you mentioned have assets, but at what cost?
Boston has draft picks into the next century, but is not going to give all of them up. And all that would do is drop OKC to Phoenix level for 3-4 and depress the fan base.
The Lakers would do something, but the cupboard would be bare when Westbrook gets there.
San Antonio plays team ball and would not abandon that to become The Westbrook Show.
Philly won't give up Simmons or Embiid, and anything else they have won't get the trade done.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2018 14:17:08
This would be huge for Memphis. Love and Gasol would be nasty. Kemba would be an upgrade over Conley. Plus they shed Parsons? Worth it giving up the 4th pick.

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27 Oct 2017 16:22:14
Would rather have Jokic over Cousind tbh.

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28 Sep 2017 04:06:45
That's not even the chandler they need. Try putting together a respectable and doable Tyson chandler deal. He'd be a fantastic backup 5.

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03 Aug 2017 14:16:28
Appreciate the shoutout! Just can't see us moving Adams unless it's a younger, more locked in star. He's very valuable.

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05 Jul 2017 18:02:21
Sick of hearing about losing Harden.

We offered him the deal he wanted. He didn't accept because of his role. We in turn hit the phones. Called GSW first. They wouldn't give up Thompson. We called Wiz second. They wouldn't give up Beal. We called Houston third. We landed Martin (stop gap), Lamb (bust), and the pick that turned into Steven Adams. None are equivalent to Harden. Sure. But all that crap about not paying Harden is incorrect.

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