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15 Oct 2019 23:29:01
Hornets get Schroeder, Nader, Burton
***A backup for Rozier that could also provide a spark. I think Schroeder could also use a change of scenery with so many ball handlers in okc.

Grizz get MKG, Monk, 2020 Denver 1st
***They get another pick and a young asset. If MKG can play, great. If he stinks, cool. $13M expiring.

Thunder get Anderson, Crowder
***I'd like to see OKC see how far they could go in the West. Most of the top teams have reason to underachieve (ex Warriors have Klay hurt, KD gone, Russel to incorporate AND Rockets have to figure out how feed both Harden and Russ and no picks to trade to fill out the bench).

CP3, Graham, FA (Felton?)
SGA, Ferguson, Diallo
Crowder, Anderson, Roberson
Gallo, Bazley, Muscala
Adams, Noel, Patton

(Realistically the backup pg is SGA and graham the third)

26 Sep 2019 09:59:24
CHI/OKC/WAS

CHI get Bradley Beal
- try to compete and make the playoffs with an allstar player

Pg White/Dunn/Arci
Sg Beal/Satoransky
Sf Porter/Valentine/Hutchison
Pf Young/Gafford
Ce Markannen/Felicio

OKC get Zach LaVine
- get a future partner for Shai. For now play a small ball with 3 back courts

Pg Paul/Shai
Sg Lavine/Diallo/Nader
Sf Shai/Roberson
Pf Gallinari/Bazley
Ce Adams/Noel

WAS get Wendell Carter Jr, Dennis Schroeder, Terrance Ferguson, OKC 1st round pick or DEN + HOU 1st, CHI 1st round pick

26 Sep 2019 14:20:06
might have to swap carter and Markannen.

27 Sep 2019 06:50:19
MIN desperately needs a PG of the future, and they still passed on Coby White in the draft, I think they liked Garland, and didn’t want White,

25 Sep 2019 13:53:36
Cavs Thunder Houston

Cavs receive
Paul
Adams
Schroeder
Capela

Thunder receive
Knight
Henson
Nance Jr
Dellavedova
Tucker

Rockets receive
Love
2022 second round pick back from Cavs
2023 second round pick from Thunder

Trade two:
Cavs Wizards

Cavs receive
Wall
2020 second round pick from Chi or Memphis
2024 second round pick

Wizards receive
Thompson
Clarkson

Trade one Thunder get out of Paul's contract and give up expandable players like Adams and Schroeder who they tested the market for this past of season. While they also add expiring contracts and a good young player in Nance Jr.
Houston gets their third star to play with Westbrook and Harden. Love knows how to be the third option on a championship caliber team and the rockets get 2 seconds to their depleted draft stock.

Trade two: I believe this is the best the Wizards could get for Wall and his contract., Two good role players on expiring contracts and a replacement for Wall with Clarkson who could match his offensive production and Thompson would become the best Center they have after this trade.

I already know what people will say. Why bring in 3 guards when you already have Sexton and Garland and it's going to stunt their development. I disagree big time. Sexton and Garland will only learn from Paul, Wall and Schroeder and while Walls out the Cavs could play Paul and Sexton as the starters with Garland and Schroeder as the back ups. Paul could mentor Sexton and Schroeder could do that for Garland while on and off the floor. Then add the leadership of Wall and giving his insight. Then the amount that someone like Garland especially could absorb is maxed out. Frees up space for Porter Jr and Windler behind Osman. Also you have two dominant defensive big men in Capela and Adams starting. This team may not be a top 5 east team this year but next year with the development of the young core and chemistry built up, this is has potential to be a contenting team in the east. Better than what the Cavs could have for the next 4 years.

Cavs depth Chart
Paul/Garland/(Wall)
Sexton/Schroeder/Thornwell
Osman/Porter Jr/ Windler
Capela/Martin
Adams/Zizic

25 Sep 2019 14:11:46
Why would the Cavs do this? They get one player of value in Capela and they give up their best player to get two god awful contracts at pg and they end up with 4 pgs that should be or will want to start next season and 2 starting centers that can’t play another position. You just made a bad team with a ton of long term money on the books. The wall deal in particular is ridiculous. 2 2nds to take on that contract? I’d want 3 1sts to even consider it. Paul isn’t a mentor. By all accounts his teammates don’t like him and he’s hard to play with. Schroeder has been a head case and forced himself off a bad team already. Both guys are going to want out. Delly and Knight are both guys that are just happy to be on nba rosters collecting big checks and both can be mentors. Delly seems like one of the ultimate team guys and Knight has been on record talking about how Sexton and him have similar skill sets and that he can help Sexton develop. By the time Love was back, the locker room seemed to be in a good shape. Not to mention the Cavs would be in the luxury over this nonsensical abomination of a team.

25 Sep 2019 21:42:58
Haha I knew you would love this trade Rkenne. I understand this isn’t believable but I think the Cavs should look at it. The Cavs need more playmakers. I know that Garland could develop into the play maker but he isn’t ready to start and if they have Garland develop with the second unit and have either Sexton Or Schroeder beside him. The pressure wouldn’t be on him to produce and they would let the game come naturally to him. Paul and Schroeder attitude shouldn’t be a problem. Both would be more motivated after this trade to prove everyone wrong. Wall is already motivated with his injury. Capela and Adams are both young and yes centers but defensively they would be able to control the key area themselves. Also any team trying to deal with the size of Capela and Adams would struggle. Having both would mean more rebounds and thus opportunity for the speed of the guards to run the break or pull up from deep. Try contending the size down low then also match the speed of the three guards. Would be difficult to do. Gives the rookies more playing time as well so they could develop. Do they go into luxury yes. But giving time for this team to build chemistry would only help them. Cavs keep all the young developmental pieces in this trade as well. With the draft lottery even being a bottom 3 team doesn’t guarantee a good draft pick as we know so why not go for is and give the fans a reason to be excited except wait another few years and we may be good. I honesty do believe this team could contend next year once Wall returns but got to take a risk in Cleveland for them to have a chance as we know.

25 Sep 2019 22:03:20
If they could keep Love and get Paul, Roberson and Gallinari, then maybe you consider it. Then you flip Sexton for something. Wall is guy who’s game is largely predicated on him being athletic and he blew out his Achilles. He has a 4 year super max contract. It’s easily the worst contract in the league.

26 Sep 2019 02:34:16
Cavs have nothing of value for the Thunder other than picks. Why would the Thunder trade Adams, Paul, Gallinari, etc. For players that are worse than the Thunder's bench players?

26 Sep 2019 11:14:14
Paul and Schroeder both have negative value. A trade that let's you get off of them and isn’t sending out young talent is a win.

24 Sep 2019 13:31:01
Iggy doesn`t intend to Memphis training and only Mavs have the assat and the need for a trade (Houston, L.A. and so on do not have the CAP / assat) right now:

Memphis:
- Lee
- 3x 2nd pick
- full 5,2m cash consideration

Dallas:
- Iguodala

24 Sep 2019 15:38:02
Clippers can't do Harkless+McGruder+2020first for Iggy?

Spurs can't do Gay+2020first for Iggy?

Portland could also put a package together as well.

so the "only Mavs have the assat and need" is probably not very accurate.

25 Sep 2019 20:05:34
Couldnt memphis trade iggy to Denver, portland who actually have first round pick to offer. I do agree houston Lakers clippers don't have anything to offer. I don't think mavs do either.

22 Sep 2019 13:53:02
OKC: Covington+KAT+ Booker

Phoe: Gallinari+ Ferguson+1rnd pick Denver+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 1rnd pick Miami 2023+ 1rnd pick clippers 2026

Minny:CP3+ 1rnd pick Hou 2020+1rnd pick 2022 Clipper+1rnd pick Hou 2024+1rnd pick Hou 2026


OKC:
C:Adams
PF:KAT
SF:Covington
SG:Booker
PG:SGA

Phoenix is not going to make the playoffs and Booker is going to be unhappy, so Phoenix starts rebuilding around Ayton.

Minny gambles that CP3 can upgrades Wiggins value and they can start over with all those draft picks.

22 Sep 2019 14:33:23
Houston still owns its 2020 pick, so not sure how its included.

Minny gets robbed as RoCo and KAT are worth those picks, where are the picks for Paul's horrible contract.

22 Sep 2019 20:29:04
Considering how late those 4 firsts are, I don’t think they alone get KAT. Let alone Covington. And add in taking Paul. Seems way off.

23 Sep 2019 00:40:34
To be fair, kind of hard to predict where 2026 picks will be.

23 Sep 2019 02:02:58
Of every team in the entire NBA, Houston is one of the last I’d expect to ever tank. It’s just not their way. They mortgage their future to stay competitive on a consistent basis. I’d expect Houston’s picks to be late lottery at the very best.

23 Sep 2019 07:22:35
Also Miami is a team that never tanks, but still there's a big chance those 2024 and 2026 Houston picks falls in the lottery.

Westbrook will be 36 in 24 and 38 in 26
J Harden will be 35 in 24 and 37 in 26
And the Harden-Westbrook experiment could fail.

23 Sep 2019 11:18:45
For the MIN-OKC half of the trade, OKC got about this package for trading Westbrook.

Westbrook.

23 Sep 2019 13:34:42
Plus Gaspo left out the injury bug that often hits older players.

23 Sep 2019 16:09:56
Considering overall trade value, KAT>Westbrook. And I don't think it's very close.

23 Sep 2019 18:34:05
The picks could fall into the lottery, sure. But if I’m putting value on those picks, it’s reduced due to history of how teams are run.

I feel like bringing up Miami is making my point. There was a Miami pick floating around (Maybe it still is? ) that people valued really high. I didn’t think so because Pat Riley won’t full on tank. Look at that team now, they’re going to be a playoff team most likely.

17 Sep 2019 18:06:54
WE KEEP BRUNSON! Since Houston will not sign with Shumpert - we have it! Shumpert is a good 3 & D guy, that can still slash in the paint.

It is what Dallas needs to share the sport with Curry!

Shumpert is strugling somehow but I think Mavs can offer him a great opportunity, by giving him the same contract that Maxi has but with restriction on money!

Sign Iman Shumpert 4y 36m - he will be happy! But to prove his 3&D value he gets:
- 3 m are garanteed
- 3 m coming from more than 1 steal a game per 36 minutes
- 3 m coming from more the 42% shooting and 35% 3point shooting a game per 36 minutes

Finally Mavs have all the tool to trade for Dummond:

Toronto:
- Hardayway
- 2nd Mavs 2020
Detroit:
- Ibaka
- Justin Jackson
- 1st Mavs
Dallas:
- Drummond
- (signs Shumpert)

Voila!

17 Sep 2019 22:18:04
Voila! No.

17 Sep 2019 23:49:06
I get that we all over value players on our teams, I'm probably guilty of that too. But why do you think the Raptors would trade Ibaka for Hardaway. That's a lateral move at best.

17 Sep 2019 23:51:53
I question whether the Raptors would even do that, let alone the Pistons. Outside Luka, Kristaps, and maybe Powell, none of the Mavs have any real value. And that pick won't be for years.

18 Sep 2019 00:58:04
The Drummond trade is BS and has been for a while. But I am also trying to figure out where the cap space exists to sign Shumpert to a $9 mil per year deal. Dallas is over the salary cap and doesn't have a mid-level exception available to SIGN Shumpert.

18 Sep 2019 01:09:52
pourtant .

18 Sep 2019 09:31:30
Mavs have a Trade Exception that is more than 9m a year. So Houston will always agree to a S&T, since they will create a 9m trade exception for the Rockets!

Raports have Gasol for a year. Ibaka is 29/ 30 and he playes only 20 minutes anymore. Siamka is the go to guy already and he plays PF. But with Leonard leaving, Raports will miss a lot outside shooting. Maybe not on the high percentage, but exactly that is what Hardaway is good in! And if he stay health he is a good scorer and that has the physics to be a good defender and he can create his own shoot and make plays! I would always keep him, but Mavs have a lot of shooting and hence he is trade chip.

To say the Mavs have no value beside Magic/ Porzee shows a lot. There are good role players or at least very good backup players that any team needs.

18 Sep 2019 13:45:40
I agree. The Raptors don't really need Ibaka. I just feel like Hardaway hasn't proven himself enough as a defender or as a scorer to really be worth the trade.

17 Sep 2019 03:48:41
HOU - SAC

Houston receives: Dedmon, Giles

Sacramento receives: Capela

Houston trades for fit / depth / flexible assets (Giles is a good prospect, Dedmon has 2 years guaranteed on contract vs. 4 years with Capela). Dedmon's 3PT shooting at the center position helps clear the lane for Westbrook + Harden.

Sacramento already has the depth (Holmes now becomes backup center), so they combine a couple assets to acquire a better starter. Capela is still young / fits the timeline and is a complementary piece who won't take away from developing young stars (similar to Harrison Barnes). His shot blocking will help create more fast break opportunities.

17 Sep 2019 12:57:00
Kings signed Dedmond for hos "stretch" capabilities that Capella doesn't have, so they will most likely pass on this.

05 Sep 2019 15:53:52
The Cavs get Theis, Ojeleye, and House

The Celtics get Capela

The Rockets get Brown, Wanamaker , Henson and a 2nd from the Cavs.

05 Sep 2019 16:48:38
Not sure this works for any of the teams involved.

02 Aug 2019 09:41:58
OKC: KAT+D booker+covington+saric

Phoe: Gallinari+ Ferguson+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021 and 2023+ 1rnd pick Denver 2020+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2026

Minny: Schroder+Adams+1rnd pick Clippers 2022+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2024+ 1rnd pick Hou 2024+ 1rnd pick Hou 2026+ 1rnd pick OKC 2026


OKC:
C: KAT
PF: Saric
SF:Covington
SG:booker
PG:CP3
Sixth: SGA

02 Aug 2019 11:04:42
No way does the Wolves do that.

02 Aug 2019 13:01:46
While that team looks competitive for Okc, I don’t think that’s the team Presti is trying to put together. I don’t think he’s looking to spend heavily this year for players with large contracts. He’s probably looking for players on their upswing to build a nucleus around, rather than transplant players and tell them they have a nucleus and to go figure it out. Plus Okc is not in a win now mode. They’re looking to become competitive in about 2-3 years. Most of those guys are in their prime.

I haven’t lived in purgatory and followed the Suns or T-wolves much to know if this would help them a lot this year, but it seems like it’s clearing out some cap space and setting them up for some more future rebuilding. Remember, these are 3 smaller markets that don’t always attract many of the free agents, so most come through draft or trades.

02 Aug 2019 13:32:25
PHX hangs up on this one. Better or worse, Booker has been indentified, by the Suns Mgt, as their "face of the franchise" so, no, he's not getting moved right now.

02 Aug 2019 14:46:54
Both KAT and Booker are on five year deals, and both are in franchises that are unlikely to draw top free agents. I don’t think either will be traded, nor able to even have the leverage to demand a trade, for three years. Random future picks won’t get them.

03 Aug 2019 00:20:30
Why would Minny trade their future star? Just stop.

03 Aug 2019 04:11:11
Future star? How much longer does KAT need to become a star?

04 Aug 2019 14:04:03
All NBA at age 22 is not good enough to be called a “future star? ”

Tough crowd.

23 Jul 2019 23:39:28
Phoenix
Send tyler and baynes to okc, okobo to detroit
Take hassan whiteside from portland
Depth: Ayton, Kaminsky, Mikal, Booker, Rubio
Hassan, Saric, Oubre, Johnson, Jerome

Oklahoma
Send adams to portland, paul and gallinari to detroit
Takes kennard, jackson, galloway and snell from detroit, tyler and baynes from pistons, bazemore from portland
They get rid of paul and adams contract and clears the cap for 2021 free agency like ny while build around schroeder-diallo-ferguson-sga-bazley-noel core and other picks from la, miami and houston

Portland
Send Hassan to Phoenix, Zach and Nurkic to detroit and bazemore to okc
Take Adams from okc, Blake from detroit
They create a contender
Starting 5: Adams, blake, little, cj, lillard

Detroit
Send jakckson, galloway, kennard and snell to okc, blake to portland
Take okobo from phoenix, zach and nurkic from portland and paul and gallinari from okc
Depth: Drummond, Gallinari, Sekou, Svi, Paul
Maker, Zach, Morris, Brown, Rose
Nurkic, okobo.

23 Jul 2019 23:38:44
No one wants Adams unless OKC is giving up picks in a salary dump.

24 Jul 2019 02:51:58
Okc wants to keep Adams.
What Okc doesn’t want is to trade 3 players and get 7 back

24 Jul 2019 16:24:12
Remove OKC, just do Collins, Bazemore, a first for Griffin. Or Whiteside, Simons, a first.

22 Jul 2019 19:21:03
Rockets - Bjencia

Kings - Shumpert (s&t) and trade exception (Chriss)

- Rockets add stretch 4
- Kings add wing depth

Westbrook/Rivers
Harden/Green
Gordon/House
Tucker/Bjencia
Capela/Nene

Fox/Joseph
Hield/Bogdanovic
Barnes/Shumpert
Bagley/Ariza
Dedmon/Giles

23 Jul 2019 02:15:10
You can't start 4 guards on a nba team and win.

23 Jul 2019 03:19:25
Kings can just sign Shumpert to a vet min deal. So why should they send Bjelica to Houston for free?

19 Jul 2019 10:14:34
Say booker wants a chance to win a title and he wants out of PHX to a contender


PHX-DEN-HOU



PHX gets DEN 2020 1st, Milsap, Barton, Craig


DEN gets Booker, Ty Johnson, Eric Gordon
And future HOU 1st rounder

HOU gets MPJ, Baynes,


Rubio
Oubre/ Craig/
Barton/ Bridges/ Johnson
Milsap/ Saric
Ayton/ Kaminsky


Murray/ Beasley
Harris / Ty Johnson
Booker/ Gordon
Grant/ Plumlee
Jokic/ Bol Bol


RW/ Rivers
Harden/ Green
Tucker/ MPJ
Baynes/ Faried
Capela/ Chandler.

19 Jul 2019 10:51:05
Not sure that Booker has the cache to force his way out of Phoenix. at least not yet.

19 Jul 2019 10:54:56
Must include at least Harris to PHX.

19 Jul 2019 14:07:00
OKC has DEN 2020 1st and PHX would say not to that trade they don't get enough back.

19 Jul 2019 19:41:44
How is Denver getting all that, and not giving up anything of value? The best asset they're giving up is porter Jr, and he just got hurt again and hasn't done a single thing. Not to mention Phx gives up test player plus 25 million in expiring money, while getting nothing of value back. Gtfoh.

16 Jul 2019 10:16:07
To keep the CAP lower for Houston and make a Iggy trade happen when Grizzlies ask for a 1st!

Houston want to win NOW! They get two centers that both may have 15m left in the tank per night and have Faried. Iggy may be a missing piece. Memphis get another first for the rebuild. Mavs get a real center and defense in the middle and the wing - voila.

Memphis:
- Lee
- 1st via Mavs

Dallas:
- Capela
- Shumpert (S&T 2y 15m)

Houston:
- Iggy
- Howard
- Noah (sign via 3m exception)

16 Jul 2019 14:20:00
Houston can't trust Howard's health. Better to keep Capella.

16 Jul 2019 14:22:04
Appreciate all the likes!

Best trade ever! : )

14 Jul 2019 21:54:40
Houstons wants a first for Capela, Memphis a first for Iguodala. Not so much offer may come. But Dallas may offer a future 1st for Capela and has the CAP to sign him:

Memphis:
- Broekhoff
- 1st (via Dallas)

Houston:
- Iguodala

Dallas:
- Capela

Houston can go for Noah and resign Faried. Memphis get a pick and Mavs can close out their roster still having a big exception if they asked again to facilitate a Miami trade and to clear cap for OKC like Paul for Dragic and Leonard + Jones Jr. to Mavs.

15 Jul 2019 02:05:02
You may want to review your cap numbers. Once Dallas completes their agreements with Boban and Seth Curry, the Mavs will be over the salary cap and only have $11 mil left on their trade exception whoch is not enough for Capella's nearly $15 mil salary. Going to have to send someone like Jackson or Finney-Smith to get the numbers right.

14 Jul 2019 16:22:53
Hou: K Love

Cle: E gordon+Tucker+frazier

14 Jul 2019 16:48:15
Frazier or Love. By the who is frazier.

14 Jul 2019 20:01:40
Michael Frazier a nonguatenteed bench sitter.

14 Jul 2019 20:03:22
Fyi. Cleveland only moving Love for picks.

12 Jul 2019 02:51:24
Since Westbrook went to Houston...
Miami and OKC
Miami gets CP3
OKC gets waiters and Johnson.

Why?
Well, OKC can have major cap space in the biggest free agency of stars in 2021 instead of having CP3 on the books holding them back.
Miami does it because they will have that improved backcourt they need.

11 Jul 2019 23:36:56
Rockets - Thunder

Rockets gets:
Westbrook
Adams
2020 2nd rd pick
2021 2nd rd pick

Thunder gets:
Paul
Capela
2021 1st rd pick (top 4 protected)
2023 1st rd pick (top 10 protected)
2025 1st rd pick (lottery protected)

12 Jul 2019 02:03:57
Close.

11 Jul 2019 23:01:33
Memphis may not find takers for Iguodala and Howard. Could be a cool story to see Dwight again in Houston! And he may be ready for a limited role - maybe a successtory! And Iguodala is what they need on the wing athletic 3&D! And they can sign Tyson Chandler in addition. The math works with the salary + 5m rule in trade under 20m.
So they have shortterm a better team. Mavs get a strong center that is yound and Mavs can variy with Capela/Powell/KP. Memphis unload 13m and gets a young scroer in Jackson what Mavs can give away if they get Jones Jr. in a Miami trade.

Rockets:
- Howard
- Iguodala
- Sign T. Chandler (3m exception)

Grizzlies:
- Lee
- Justin Jackson
- D.Davis
- 2nd Mavs

Mavs:
- Capela
- Frazier

12 Jul 2019 03:46:37
Mavs need to give up for than that.

11 Jul 2019 22:05:00
Houston/OKC

CP3 for Russ straight up works for both sides..... Identical contracts plus with OKC rebuilding, CP3 can help the development of a player. At this point, Russ can not. Ideal if Rockets can find some shooting and OKC can land picks by throwing in Adams to a 3rd team.

11 Jul 2019 23:30:38
Russ has more value than Paul.

12 Jul 2019 02:06:45
Welp. called that one. I think OKC makes playoffs as 7th seed if CP3 stays. They need a young wing and it should be fun. One thing for sure, we'll see how much Russ was overrated.

12 Jul 2019 02:15:55
Nice job. Not too far off.

12 Jul 2019 03:21:19
Rockets throw in 2 firsts.

12 Jul 2019 03:22:08
This happened. but with picks.

11 Jul 2019 21:30:41
Bulls trade rockets

Rockets get felicio,carter jr, and dunn

Bulls get capela

11 Jul 2019 22:37:45
Why would the bulls give up carter jr to get and older player?

 
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