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03 Aug 2021 14:02:10
Sixers: Schroder s&t 4yrs/70mil, Bagley, 1st rd pick Lakers (not sure if they have any though)
Lakers: Hield
Kings: Harris
I think this trade is under 1% chance of happening but this is the only way the Lakers can get Hield. I know, Sixers can do a straight swap with the Kings here. Just thinking of a scenario where the Lakers can land Hield. Kings get a talented all-star level player to play PF alongside Holmes & Len
Schroder
Curry
Thybulle
Simmons
Embiid
Westbrook
Hield
Ariza
Lebron
Davis
Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Harris
Holmes
1.) 03 Aug 2021 15:22:20
Rather keep Hield + Bagley than take on Tobias Harris.
22 Jul 2021 21:52:32
PHX add: Tristan Thompson
BOS add: Dario Saric
Saric is injured, but if healthy he will fit perfectly with BOS. PHX has enough firepower and getting big man depth should be prioritized. Thompson is a good back up to Ayton. Anymore pieces to be involved?
1.) 22 Jul 2021 23:16:42
I've been thinking about this for quite a while but I think the injury put an end to it for Boston.
11 Jul 2021 13:28:21
LAL get : Adams, Lewis
- get a defensive center and a young guard to develop
Lewis
KCP
Lebron
Davis
Adams
DAL get : Harrell (opt in), Kuzma, 2nd rd pick LAL
- get 2 players who could deliver outside of LA, maybe Doncic playmaking can give them more confidence than what Lebron can give
Doncic
Richardson
Kuzma
Harrell
Kleber
NOLA get : Porzingis, 22nd pick via LAL
- get a center who fits with Zion, get a pick for taking risk
Ball
Mitchell (pick)
Ingram
Zion
Porzingis
1.) 11 Jul 2021 15:08:14
Not sure Adams+Lewis = Porzingis+#22 pick.
Not sure Lewis has shown enough for LeBron to say, "that's the PG the Lakers for a Championship Team. "
2.) 11 Jul 2021 18:01:47
Don’t see Lakers giving a first to take on Adams deal.
09 Jul 2021 05:29:48
Cleveland get Siakam, Hood
Garland
Sexton
Okoro
Siakam
Allen
Raptors get Love, Osman, 3rd pick
Vanvleet
Trent/Suggs?
Anunoby
Love
Mobley?
1.) 09 Jul 2021 13:59:40
Not enough for Siakam.
08 Jul 2021 14:12:05
NOLA get Luka Doncic, Dwight Powell
DAL get Brandon Ingram, N. Alexander-Walker, 5 or 6 1st round picks DAL preference
NOLA sign Duncan Robinson 4yr/70mil
Doncic
Hart
Robinson
Williamson
Adams
Brunson
Walker
Ingram
Finney-Smith
Porzingis
Ring ding ding!
1.) 08 Jul 2021 14:38:09
LOL. Nice!
2.) 08 Jul 2021 17:58:55
Man you made my day!
3.) 08 Jul 2021 21:21:21
Y have to add an chees burger.
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02 Aug 2021 21:07:54
Lakers chose starpower over fit. I don't know where it might lead them to. On paper, it looks like a disaster. Only solution is that free agents (shooters) signs with them on a minimum deal. Good luck convincing them. Smh. Only thing that make this worth it is if they win one last chip for Lebron
09 Jul 2021 13:26:42
DEN already has a solid young group. Beside Millsap, i think they need to add another vet leader on that team to make a serious championship run like PHX with Paul. Lowry is a perfect fit i think behind Murray, Jokic and Porter. Now i ask, any chance that Lowry would have any interest in playing for DEN or what it would take to get him there? Thanks
1.) 09 Jul 2021 14:01:30
Maybe a package around Gordon+Barton+Millsap+MPJ for Siakam+Lowry? Picks of course. I don't see anything that Denver has that we'd want, beside MPJ, which Denver certainly won't give.
2.) 09 Jul 2021 18:28:18
Since Lowry is a free agent, it would have to be a sign and trade, so you couldn't include siakam in the deal.
As to the first question, I doubt Denver is a place Lowry wants to go to, but if they make an offer he can't refuse they do fit his requirement as a contending team. Money is important, contention is important, and he has said family is a big factor. This is why I don't think Denver is top of list.
From Toronto's perspective if Denver needs to match salaries it would take MPJ to start, then Gordon to match, and a future first for taking Gordon's salary (we really don't need/ want him) .
Or DEN could trade Gordon somewhere with cap space for a bag of peanuts and renounce everyone else to sign Lowry into space, but he'd probably want a premium to go to Denver.
3.) 09 Jul 2021 18:48:27
They messed up trading for the overpaid and mediocre Gordon.
4.) 09 Jul 2021 19:21:21
getting a first round pick back in a S&T is a great return.
5.) 09 Jul 2021 19:46:43
I could see Lowry going for a MLE or so deal with the right team, and Denver is one of those teams.
6.) 09 Jul 2021 21:32:20
I don’t think Toronto has the leverage to get MPJ since Lowry is a FA.
7.) 09 Jul 2021 23:56:13
Lowry is worth a lot more than the MLE imo.
8.) 10 Jul 2021 05:19:21
He’s worth more. He’s also 35 and plays the deepest position in the league. I could see him struggling to find an offer anywhere near his actual value if he leaves Toronto.
If it’s MLE from a contender like Denver, or 15 million from a lesser team? Taking less wouldn’t be that surprising.
9.) 10 Jul 2021 12:16:45
If the highest offer he gets is 15 million, then we'll offer him 17.
10.) 11 Jul 2021 14:15:45
@NBA16 - Toronto has all or none of the leverage with Lowry S&T. If the team he wants to sign with has room or can create it then the Raptors have no leverage. If the team he wants to sign with cannot create the room, Toronto holds all the leverage since a S&T is the only way he's getting there. At the very least Toronto is going to look for a draft pick and a TPE, but Masai will squeeze that lemon for all the juice that's in it.
No way Lowry is signing for the MLE. If that's the best offer he finds Toronto will give him more on a one or two year deal.
11.) 11 Jul 2021 18:06:05
False. No team is going to give up their best prospect on rookie deal for 35 year old FA. If they’re trading MPJ I’m sure they’ll rather package him and others for players like Beal or Lavine.
12.) 11 Jul 2021 21:14:31
The question was what would it take, not what should denver be willing to pay. there isn't a deal to be done here, because toronto would not take what denver is willing to pay unless it included mpj. ujiri has shown that he is more than willing to walk away if he doesn't get the deal he wants.
13.) 11 Jul 2021 23:43:26
Then Nuggets and other contenders can offer him MLE.
14.) 12 Jul 2021 09:44:37
Raps fan your not getting mpj for sign and trade Lowry green and Barton plus a first will be good.
Lowry
Murray
Mpj
Gordon
Joker.
15.) 12 Jul 2021 12:21:08
We can get better for Lowry.
16.) 12 Jul 2021 13:19:17
Bottom line is Masai will get what he wants for Lowry or he'll take the cap space. Toronto doesn't have to take any deal, and Ujiri has demonstrated that he won't settle for a deal he doesn't like. Clearing cap room is not a bad option for Toronto. Definitely a better option than taking on bad contracts.
17.) 12 Jul 2021 19:04:37
I feel like if Lowry wants out of Toronto Masai is going to do everything right by him and get him wherever Lowry wants to be.
18.) 12 Jul 2021 20:29:52
Masai will treat Lowry with all the respect he's earned. Lowry does not expect, nor will Ujiri allow, the Raptors to make a bad move for the Raptors just to please Kyle Lowry. There will be a mutually beneficial S&T or the Raptors will walk and let Lowry go for the cap space.
19.) 13 Jul 2021 15:38:31
I'm sorry but Green+Barton+ a 1st is most definitely not enough for Lowry.
20.) 13 Jul 2021 16:48:45
How and they couldn’t even get a first for him or even Tucker at the deadline delusional lil kids these days.
21.) 13 Jul 2021 16:55:51
The benefit is the first round pick. Look what Philly got for sign and trade butler who is a way better player then Lowry. Your treating Lowry like he a top 20 player or something. It’s like sign and trade me to Denver for the first or I’m signing with ny and you get nothing.
22.) 13 Jul 2021 21:06:17
Green, Barton, and a first is amazing value for Lowry in a S&T. If you’re expecting more, you’re nuts.
23.) 13 Jul 2021 21:45:06
Yes Il. that's exactly it. Green and Barton are both expirings, so Toronto would have to consider it getting a 1st for one year of holding salary they don't really want. That's not a bad option if they don't have another plan to use the cap space for a preferred deal. but allowing him to sign with NY isn't nothing. it's the freedom to spend that money whatever way you want if you have a target for it.
24.) 14 Jul 2021 21:33:38
If I was the raptors I would package both those players who are expiring plus add picks and get a real good player. Like the center they need like Christian wood.
25.) 13 Jul 2021 19:28:23
Those aren’t bad contracts there expiring contracts and will have value. They can package those contracts plus other picks and players to get a good player. That’s like only way they can get better and they have no cap to sign anyone to get better. How can you get better for Lowry when they couldn’t even get tucker from the Lakers. So a first is excellent with expiring contracts.
26.) 14 Jul 2021 17:43:55
@Darry_Doza. What you are seeing in the Denver S&T is on par with what Phoenix paid in a trade for CP3. May want to consider that.
27.) 16 Jul 2021 17:13:14
Oubre, Rubio, 2 role players, and a 1st? For a worse shooter and inside scorer? We can get more than expirings and a first.
02 Aug 2021 21:03:06
Where is Wiseman.
02 Aug 2021 21:02:14
In Sixers pov, not enough. Lmao. But we as fans, we know it's too much.
22 Jul 2021 13:04:03
You are so confusing.
22 Jul 2021 02:19:53
Simmons' value isn't that low.
21 Jul 2021 06:42:32
I think it's clear that the Suns need a lot more size behind Ayton. I don't think Harrell is the answer.
03 Aug 2021 08:04:12
We'll see. But being delusional sometimes leads to nothing.
03 Aug 2021 05:14:59
Warriors line up is quite deep.
23 Jul 2021 00:03:41
Lebron joined a Miami team who can barely make the playoffs and immediately made them a contender. Meanwhile, Durant joined a championship team in GS. Both are a** moves though especially to the fans. I agree with Fredman about the comparison of Milwaukee to those teams who are built to win championships.
21 Jul 2021 04:58:03
Celtics kinda perfect fit.
21 Jul 2021 04:57:22
Giannis is a monster. Happy for him for staying and winning for the team that drafted him.