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30 Jan 2018 19:21:11
The Pistons still can do 2 trades and help in the future

- (TRADE 1) DET - UTA
Pistons get:
SG Joe Johnson
2020 2nd Round Pick (UTA)

Jazz get:
PF Jon Leuer

Pistons add a SG/SF they need now and is on an expiring contract and if he retires, the 2nd round pick can help in the future as they recently traded their 2020 2nd round pick

Jazz gets Leuer who can replace Favors next year and can help for 2 more years after that

- (TRADE 2) DET - CLE - DAL
Pistons get:
(Cle)
PG D. Rose
(Dal)
SG S. Curry + PF N. Noel

Cavs get:
(Dal)
SG W. Matthews + '19 2nd (GS)
(Det)
'19 2nd (top 40 protected)

Mavs get:
(Det)
PG R. Jackson
(Cle)
SG I. Shumpert + PF C. Frye + '18 1st (CLE)

Pistons add Rose who would replace Jackson in the lineup and they add Curry who is a good shooter and Noel who would be a good backup for the rest of the season. All are on expiring contracts.

Cavs add Matthews who would help with shooting as Wade has struggled and Smith too...they also add 2 2nd rounders in 2019 with one being protected

Mavs add Jackson who can help in the near future...also Shumpert who would replace Mathews ans Frye who can also help off the bench...plus adding the Cavs 1st rounder in 2018

- PG:
D. Rose
I. Smith
D. Buyucks
- SG:
L. Kennard
S. Curry
L. Galloway
- SF:
S. Johnson
J. Johnson
R. Bullock
- PF:
B. Griffin
A. Tolliver
H. Ellenson
- C:
A. Drummond
N. Noel
E. Moreland

Cut Brice Johnson and Willie Reed to make room for the trades (Johnson to D- League)

cookie24

1.) 30 Jan 2018 19:58:07
Leuer is a no go for UTA.


 

 

27 Aug 2017 18:32:05
2 trades and 2 free agent signings the Pistons can do to be more competitive

(TRADE 1)
Pistons get:
(GS)
SG K. Thompson

Mavs get:
(GS)
PG P. McCaw + '19 2nd (DAL pick)
(DET)
PF H. Ellenson

Warriors get:
(DET)
PG R. Jackson + '18 1st (UP)
(DAL)
SG S. Curry

Pistons add a star player who helps in an area the pistons lack in production (3 point %). They insert him at SG while Bradley moves over to PG. They give up Jackson, Ellenson and 2018 1st round pick to do so.

Mavs add McCaw who would fill the void of Curry at SG but comes off the bench. They also add a future replacement for when Nowitski retires and resembles a similar play as a decent 3 point shooter for a PF. They also get back their 2019 2nd round pick they traded to the Warriors ahwile ago.

Warriors add Jackson who can be a reliable piece off the bench or move to SG. They also get an unprotected 1st round pick next year from the Pistons. They also get Steph Currys little brother who also is a good 3 point shooter and can go to SG.

SALARIES match for incoming and outcoming salaries.

Pistons recieve $17,826,150
Pistons send out $17,780,800

Mavs recieve $3,093,411
Mavs send out $3,028,410

Warriors recieve $19,028,410
Warriors send out $19,138,761

(TRADE 2)
Pistons get:
(MIN)
'18 2nd (top 40) + '20 2nd (UP)
(PHI)
C J. Okafor

Wolves get:
(PHI)
'18 2nd (HOU pick)
(DET)
PF J. Leuer

76ers get:
(DET)
'19 1st (Right to swap: DET-PHI)*
(MIN)
C C. Aldrich

*: pistons would recieve '19 2nd (NYK pick) and '20 2nd (DAL pick) if PHI excerices the swap

Pistons add 2 draft picks with a possible 3 more if the 76ers swap 1st in 2019. They recieve a 2nd that's top 40 protected in 2018 and a 2020 2nd that's unprotected from the Wolves. They also recieve Okafor who replaces Leuer on the depth chart.

Wolves add a 2018 2nd that's HOUs pick and Leuer (whos from Minnesota) to play at PF.

76ers add a right to swap 2019 1st round picks with the Pistons and if they choose to do so, theyd give them a 2019 2nd (Knicks pick) and a 2020 2nd (Mavs pick). They also recieve Aldrich to be a replacement for Okafor on the depth chart. His salary for the 2018-2019 season is partial guaranteed.

(FREE AGENTS)
PG Jason Terry or Trey Burke
1 year $2,000,000
$3,000,000 team option in year 2

SG James Young
1 year $1,250,000
$1,250,000 team option in year 2

Terry provides 3 point shooting and veteran leadership. Burke adds youth. Young adds youth and athleticism.

(DEPTH CHART)
PG:
Avery Bradley
Ish Smith
Jason Terry / Trey Burke
SG:
Klay Thompson
Langston Galloway
James Young
SF:
Stanley Johnson
Luke Kennard
Reggie Bullock
PF:
Tobias Harris
Jahlil Okafor
Anthony Tolliver
C:
Andre Drummond
Boban Marjanovic
Eric Moreland

cookie24

1.) 27 Aug 2017 18:55:40
Sooooooo. Pistons give up Reggie Jackson, Henry Ellenson, and a 2nd rounder. And they get Klay Thompson? I hope this is a joke.


2.) 27 Aug 2017 19:31:42
I said unprotected 1st round in 2018, lol.


3.) 27 Aug 2017 19:55:30
I'm not even sure Jackson has positive value at this point.


4.) 27 Aug 2017 21:49:20
Lol is right to that trade, it's a joke.


5.) 27 Aug 2017 23:23:08
I'm confused as to why Golden State does this trade.


 

 

09 Aug 2017 05:09:52
With the Kyrie Irving to the Pistons rumors just starting if they can't work out other trade proposals with other teams. The Cavs would like a veteran, young player who can potentially be a future piece to the team and a draft pick.

A proposed trade of Irving and Thompson for Jackson, Johnson and Drummond was brought up thru an E-S-P-N analyst. But i still like Drummond on the team and i propose a trade.

Pistons get:
PG Kyrie Irving
2019 2nd round pick (MIN or LAL pick)

Cavs get:
PG Reggie Jackson
SF Stanley Johnson
2019 1st round pick (top 5 protected)


*note: i believe the 2nd round pick is from either MIN or LAL...if i'm wrong then let me know

Pistons get an All Star in Irving who along with Bradley, Harris and Drummond can be a good starting 4 and with the 2nd round pick, theyd get 3 2nd round picks in 2019.

Cavs add Jackson, who with Rose getting the starting PG but both have injury history so both can contribute in split time and last longer. Johnson ultimately replace James if he does leave next year to the Lakers like most are projecting. They also add a 1st round pick that year since they don't have one due to the Korver deal (it is top 14 protected but Cavs should be outside the top 14 regardless) and be a future building block for the potential rebuild.

Also....this trade nearly matches the salary with less then 0.250 in salary of difference. So salaries do match and by trading a 1st into the trade would be enough without giving up Drummond

Pistons Lineup

PG: Irving
SG: Bradley
SF: Harris / Kennard*
PF: Leuer / Harris*
C: Drummond

Harris & Leuer if they wanna play big
Kennard & Harris if they wanna play small

cookie24

1.) 09 Aug 2017 13:27:55
I don't see why cleveland would want this. They get an overpaid pg who's had 1 decent year, a disappointing lottery pick in Johnson, and a late first rounder.


2.) 09 Aug 2017 14:28:33
Agree with skills, I doubt the Cavs have any interest in Jackson and Johnson isn't the high upside player they're looking for. It would need to be Drummond, Johnson or Kennard, and a 1st.


 

 

12 Jul 2017 19:47:20
Recent trade rumors have a potential trade involving the Pelicans and Pistons

Names were discussed as a possible trade but heres what trade i'd do with the 2 teams as the difference in salary is only separated by 0.024 million

Pistons get:
PG E'Twaun Moore
SF Quincey Pondexter (waive)
C Alexis Ajinca
2020 2nd round pick

Pelicans get:
PG Reggie Jackson
SF Michael Gbinije (waive)

Pistons then sign SG James Young to compete with Eric Moreland for the last roster spot.

cookie24

1.) 12 Jul 2017 22:30:15
Hate this rumor. SVG need to involve another team. Moore isn't a PG or helps what so ever. PG is fine with just Bradley Smith and Galloway. My question is can we flip Jackson to New Orleans in a three team trade and a first get a SG like a Gary Harris.


2.) 12 Jul 2017 22:35:43
If New Orleans has the pieces to get Harris, why not just cut Detroit?


 

 

09 Jul 2017 11:19:08
3 more trades and 1 free agent signing the Pistons can do to get better

(TRADE 1)
Pistons get:
PG J. Nelson
SF M. Miller
'18 2nd round pick (POR or SAC pick)
'20 2nd round pick (DEN pick: UP)

Nuggets get:
PG R. Jackson

Pistons get cheaper and add 2 future draft picks and add 2 veterans who can lead the Pistons with the younger players. Plus Nelson, played under SVG.

Nuggets get a PG who can play better then what they currently have and help them get better.

(TRADE 2)
Pistons get:
PF N. Bjelica
'18 1st round pick (MIN: Top 10 protected)

Wolves get:
SG M. Gbinije
PF J. Leuer

Pistons get cheaper in this contract and add a 1st round pick next year which based on the recent signings for the Wolves, theyd moat likely be picking in the late teens.

Wolves add a young guard who if they choose to keep but if not just waive him. Plus they add Leuer who can help the Wolves and is even from Minnesota.

(TRADE 3)
Pistons get:
SG N. Stauskas
C J. Okafor

76ers get:
SG K. Pope
'18 1st round pick (DET: Right to swap)

Pistons add depth with Stauskas who can help in the 3 point shooting area and Okafor who can move to PF and form a good duo with Drummond in the front court. He can even potentially replace Drummond if they choose to trade him.


76ers add Pope who was recently linked to the 76ers and form a good young lineup of (Fultz-Pope-Covington/Saric-Simmons-Embiid) and help in the long run for the team and the pick they get is a right to swap with the Pistons pick and 76ers pick and if they choose not to swap then, the rights would be extinguished.

(Free Agent)
SG James Young
4 years $10,000,000
Yr 1) $1,000,000...100% guaranteed
Yr 2) $2,000,000...50% guaranteed
Yr 3) $3,000,000...0% guaranteed
Yr 4) $4,000,000...0% guaranteed

Yrs 3 would then become 50% guaranteed if the Pistons give Young the 2nd year as 100% guaranteed. But Young can opt out after yr 2 depending on playing time levels.

Young adds athleticism and just hasn't shown it much but going to the Pistons can hell him ease into it as he is from Detroit.

(Lineup)

PG: A. Bradley - I. Smith - J. Nelson
SG: L. Kennard - L. Galloway - N. Stauskas
SF: T. Harris - S. Johnson - M. Miller/J. Young
PF: J. Okafor - N. Bjelica - H. Ellenson
C: A. Drummond - B. Marjanovic - E. Moreland

Bradley moves to PG while Okafor also moves to PF. If they want to give Kennard playing time then this is what they do but if they choose to not to then Bradley goes to SG while Galloway to PG with Smith starting

cookie24

1.) 09 Jul 2017 12:12:41
Minnesota's 2018 1st goes to Atlanta and they don't have the cap space to do that.


2.) 09 Jul 2017 14:07:15
If your a Pistons fan I'm sure you know how bad Jackson was this past season. I don't think Pistons can get rid of him that easily even to a pg needy team like Nuggets. Do Nuggets even have enough cap space to take on his big contract after Millsap signing?

In 2nd trade nothing Pistons are giving up is remotely worth a 1st rounder. Leuer isn't that good and has a decently sized contract that I think Pistons would have to give up assets to move.

In 3rd trade I'm assuming 76ers have enough cap space to sign Pope outright (otherwise they likely wouldn't even be able to do the trade since Stauskas and Okafor don't make that much) so swap rights for the two is pretty bad value. Okafor would make a crappy pf next to Drummond especially in today's nba.


3.) 09 Jul 2017 14:21:44
The 1st trade doesn't work. The Nuggets take on to much salary and I doubt there is much interest in Jackson around the league.

The Timberwolves need to give up about 8 million more to make the salaries work in the trade and they already have two solid pfs. I don't see why they would want to give up a 1st for Leuer.

Detroit waived the rights to Caldwell Pope. They can't even sign and trade him.

Okafor at pf would be a disaster. He isn't atheltic enough to guard other centers. He would get torched at pf and I doubt Bradley can be an effective starting pg. He isn't a great ball handler or passer. He's at his best playing off the ball spreading the floor.


 

 

 

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27 Feb 2017 05:41:51
What would it take for the Pistons to trade into the top 3 if the lakers, suns and celtics finish in the top 3 picks???

Reason is to get Josh Jackson to be the SF for the team as he's from Detroit

Every player is up for grabs with the exception of Drummond and Pope (sign and trade)

cookie24

1.) 27 Feb 2017 12:01:27
All of those teams would probably want Drummond.


2.) 27 Feb 2017 17:35:24
It would almost be impossible and the price wouldn't be worth it, but the only one I could see them getting without Drummond is the Brooklyn pick. If they could get a good return for Jackson ( first round pick and a decent young player) which seems unlikely and Boston could pull the trigger on a trade for George or Butler. Maybe if they offered their current pick, a future pick, the pick from the trade, said young player, and maybe even Stanley Johnson? Then maybe those two teams just beginning a rebuild would value a collection of assets over 1, even if that 1 could be a super star controlled for the next 7 years.


3.) 27 Feb 2017 18:20:44
We want a highly prized asset, but we won't give up our 2 highly prized assets (KCP won't even get you that pick) . Great thinking. You should be a GM.


4.) 28 Feb 2017 05:07:31
Lakers may take Harris and Johnson but you would have to take Deng or Mozgov.


 

 

06 Feb 2017 06:32:39
What could the Pistons do at the deadline to make the team better???

I say eveyone is available outside of Pope, Johnson, Drummond and 1St round picks

Id only trade Johnson if its for a veteran SF but with Morris, the focus is on getting better with defense as well as scoring...3 point shooting may be the biggest need

cookie24

1.) 06 Feb 2017 11:26:51
They could look for wing scoring off the bench.


2.) 06 Feb 2017 15:43:26
Lakers would happily trade you Young or Williams for a 2nd rounder.


3.) 06 Feb 2017 22:32:07
I don't think it would be as cheap as 2nd rounders but Young and Williams would be solid pickups that would provide scoring off the bench. Williams has proven to be a dynamic scorer and can do things Jackson and Smith cannot and Young would provide some solid 3 and D play on the wing. They do need a boost if they want to ensure they make the playoffs.


 

 

16 jul 2016 01:38:30
bos - okc - phi

celtics gets:
(okc) pg r. westbrook
(phi) '17 2nd round pick (mem)

thunder gets:
(phi) pf n. noel + sf d. saric + '17 1st round pick (phi or sac)
(bos) pg i. thomas + '18 1st round pick (bro)

76ers gets:
(bos) pg a. bradley + '17 2nd round pick (bos)
(okc) sg d. waiters (sign and trade)

(roster in order: bos - okc - phi)

pg: westbrook - thomas - bradley/ marshall
sg: smart - oladipo - waiters/ henderson
sf: johnson - saric - covington/ thompson
pf: horford - noel - simmons
c: olynyk - kanter/ adams - okafor.

cookie24

1.) 16 Jul 2016 02:20:29
sixers getting killed in this deal. The kings/ Sixers 2017 pick is almost guaranteed top 5. Noel and Saric are both 22 and have way more value then this. So sixers give a top 5 pick in next years loaded draft, Noel, and Saric for Bradley and Waiters? ? This is a joke?


2.) 16 Jul 2016 05:16:03
great for okc.


 

 

26 Jun 2015 19:02:32
PISTONS CURRENT ROSTER

PG: JENNINGS - DINWIDDIE
SG: POPE - MEEKS - HILLIARD
SF: JOHNSON - MARTIN
PF: ILYSAOVA - MILLER - TOLLIVER
C: DRUMMOND

CURRENT TEAM FREE AGENTS
PG REGGIE JACKSON
I expect the pistons to resign Jackson but a article online said the pistons could move on from Jackson if he wants too much and go for a PF that fits more as a starter then ilysova

PG JOHN LUCAS III
hes gone cause he was only a fill in

SF TAYSHAUN PRINCE
it was cool to see piston hall of famer back but its way past his time and he's gone unless he's willing to sign near the minimum

PF GREG MONROE
he is not 100% gone but I see him signing with a team and the pistons could work out a sign and trade deal for a draft pick (under the rights to. )

C JOEL ANTHONY
hes only back as a depth piece and he would like to come back but it has to be for the minimum for it to work

so the pistons have 4 spots open with a PG, SF and 2 CENTERS and the pistons have enough money to get a top free agent (most likely one of their own) and fill the other spots with veterans near the minimum or even the $2.5 to $5.0 million range after signing a top free agent of over $10 million

cookie24

1.) 26 Jun 2015 20:57:52
Let Jackson walk. Keep Jennings. Go all in on Love and Aldridge.

pg. Jennings
sg. KCP
sf. Johnson
pf. Aldridge
c. Drummond


 

 

29 Jan 2015 02:24:24
if pistons want to trade for a PG, getting a good starter then you either trade a 1st round pick or monroe but if you need a fill in and go get robinson in free agency but if you want a low risk - high award go get seth curry who I feel can be a good player if he stays healthy go get him with a 10 day contract, then another 10 day contract and then sign him for the rest of the season and thatll be cheaper then any free agent and/or any tradeable candidate

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27 Aug 2017 19:31:42
I said unprotected 1st round in 2018, lol.

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26 Aug 2017 15:26:38
rkenne_16.it actually would give them a trade exception in the amount of difference in contracts that was traded and can be used to cover a contracts exceeding the amount over the cap

But like you said it still won't five them space unless Noel is willing to take a backloaded deal with this year low and then moves up later.

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14 Feb 2017 02:40:06
As a Pistons fan. this will be tough to decide

Im a big fan of Stanley Johnson but Mudiay i like and Gallinari is a good shooter

Id be a GM that may sit on this offer as its a too good to pass up offer but involves a player i like

Nice trade.

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12 Feb 2017 04:27:43
Well. Pistons don't have a 2017 2nd round pick

Also, the Pistons are looking to get cheap options and getting picks not trading them

Also, the burke trade is not even. adding a future 1st rounder makes no sense as baynes for burke may be enough.

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20 Feb 2016 04:18:53
got a better offseason for the pistons

(current slot number for the 2016 picks)

- (TRADE WITH LAL)
PISTONS GETS: '16 2ND ROUND PICK (32)
LAKERS GETS: SG JODIE MEEKS + '18 2ND ROUND PICK (TOP 55 PROTECTED)

pistons add another 2nd round pick and save $6.54 million in 2016-2017 season

lakers add a short term fix at SG with kobe retiring and meeks used to play
with the lakers and they potentially get a future 2nd round pick which the lakers
can get since the pistons are moving up in the power rankings with the recent trades

- (TRADE WITH WAS and UTA)
PISTONS GETS:
WAS = '16 1ST ROUND PICK (12)
UTA = PG TREY BURKE

WIZARDS GETS:
UTA = '16 2ND ROUND PICK (45)
DET = PF MARCUS MORRIS + '16 2ND ROUND PICK (44: DET PICK)

JAZZ GETS:
DET = C ARON BAYNES
WAS = '18 2ND ROUND PICK (31-35 PROTECTED)

pistons add a 1st round pick which is about where their pick they traded to the rockets would be at and they give up morris, baynes and a '16 2nd round pick and this trade would save the pistons about $8.2 million

wizards add another morris and reunite the morris twins again and they add 2 2nd round pick in '16 by trading their '16 1st round pick and '18 2nd round pick

jazz addbaynes who can play more with them then with the pistons and even start alongside favors and they also add a 2nd round pick in '18 and all theyd give up is burke and a '16 2nd round pick

(DRAFT)

(12: from was)
Michigan
sg/ sf caris levert

(32: from lal)
pf/ c kaleb tarczewski

(FREE AGENCY)

- SF/ PF KEVIN DURANT
5 YEAR MAX DEAL (OPT OUT EVERY YEAR, NO TRADE CLAUSE, a lot OF INCENTIVES)
- PF/ C ANDRE DRUMMOND
5 YEAR MAX DEAL
- PF/ C DONATAS MONTIEJUNAS
2 YEAR $7.50 ($5.00 TEAM OPTION FOR 3RD YR) ($7.50 MUTUAL OPTION FOR 4TH YR)
- PF/ C CHRIS KAMAN
1 YEAR $2.00
PF/ C TYLER ZELLER
3 YEAR $7.50 ($2.50 TEAM OPTION FOR 4TH YR) (GUERENTEED $$: YR 2: 75%, YR 3: 50%)

getting durant is on everyones wish list in this offseason but playing with a former teammate can lure him to the pistons as he is friends with reggie jackson, drummond gets a 5 year max extension, montiejunas gets a small extension and kaman is a veteran backup and zeller is a roster fill in

PG: JACKSON - BURKE - DINWIDDIE
SG: POPE - LEVERT - HILLARD
SF: DURANT - JOHNSON - BULLOCK
PF: HARRIS - MONTIEJUNAS - ZELLER
C: DRUMMOND - KAMAN - TARCZEWSKI

i like this one better.

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