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18 Jul 2016 15:24:44
rumors about knicks sixers trade discussions. I can see why both teams would consider it, just not sure how the fit is.

Knicks trade: O'Quinn, future 1st and maybe Courtney Lee

Sixers trade: Okafor

There are obvious reasons why the knicks would do this. Spacing wouldn't be an issue with Porzingis, plus Porzingis' rim protection would help make up for Okafor's lacking in that area. Okafor would also likely come off the bench and be able to develop more naturally.

The sixers would only do this because of the log jam at big man. My guess is they would get more attractive offers, but really, who knows. There hasn't been THAT much serious interest for Okafor thus far, so who knows.

hamburger

1.) 18 Jul 2016 15:46:42
So you believe the "rumor" that's sportsrageous put out. Why would they trade a center for another center?


2.) 18 Jul 2016 15:50:46
Not a chance in hell you trade Okafor for garbage like that.


3.) 18 Jul 2016 16:47:32
A) I don't believe it will happen. Do I believe there may have been discussions internally or even perhaps between the teams? Sure. It was just a interesting posting that I decided to throw out there.

B) Not a chance in hell they trade okafor for an unprotected 1st round pick, for a team you have spent months, probably years, bashing, so clearly it would be a valuable 1st. I mean, what's the deal Tre. you call the knicks one of the worst teams. but then when the value of the return package is based on your estimation of how bad they are. no chance. the knicks are too good to have that be a valuable pick? Probably should pick a side and stick with it as opposed to just immediately hitting the angry bitter post button before thinking.

C) Calm down tre. We all know Okafor is the second coming of Kareem Abdul Jabar, mixed with Olajowon, and a dash of Jesus Christ. But even still, the sixers are moving a big man. they have diminished value because they are obviously moving one. Oquinn was a salary filler, the players of value were potentially lee and more importantly, an unprotected 1st from the team you talk a bunch of smack on, until it actually comes time to get their pick, then its garbage. It is way too early for you to be this salty. Seriously. do you just wake up bitter?


4.) 18 Jul 2016 16:51:31
The Knicks have nothing of interest for the Sixers. It would have to be a multiple team trade with Melo going somewhere else.


5.) 18 Jul 2016 17:23:33
Hamburger. The Knicks just signed half the average free agents in the league. So yes they are completely different now then a year ago when they were terrible. They still will struggle with chemistry with som many ball hogs on the same team but they will be around 35 to 40 wins and their " unprotected first is then mid first round. You don't trsde Okafor for lee and mid first and o Quinn. That's three most likely nobodies for a young center on a great contract who probably would be the Knicks best player in a year or two next to prozingus. So not a chance in hell is a pretty good description of that bs trade. i'd rather keep Oakfor as a bench piece then give him away for a bunch of junk.


6.) 18 Jul 2016 17:25:36
O and hamburger. I garrenttee you were more bitter then me in that post as it took three paragraph of you ranting about someone else being bitter.


7.) 18 Jul 2016 17:33:05
Maybe next year, when the sixers have to pay Noel and the Knicks pick go's high in the draft.

I like this for NY, but not a chance sixers do this now :-)


8.) 18 Jul 2016 17:34:10
Weird. didn't you just like 2 weeks ago claim Porzingis to be the most overrated player. That he hasn't done a thing, and until he rebounds more than 7 rebounds a game he's no where near Okafor and his legendary back to the basket game?

Its just odd. because now you say Porzingis will absolutely be better than him in the coming years. So hard to follow you. Just make bitter salty statements, no matter if they are consistant with prior statements.

Like what I say or not. at least I stay relatively consistent in my thoughts as to just changing them to disagree.

food for thought Mr. Salty.


9.) 18 Jul 2016 20:53:32
I didn't say absolutely. I said Oakfor is first or second best player on that team in a year or two. Prozingus even if he does the exact same season as last year is second best on the Knicks. Melo and prozingus as of now. But melo is getting old. Rose and Noah both old or injury prone. So yes prozingus will be the best player on a crappy team Ina year or two. That being said. If Oakfor went there prozingus will have to improve a lot to get anywhere close to Okafor In a Year or two. In other words Okafor would be the best player on that team unless prozingus, Who I already established is the best player on that crappy team ( in two years), Gets considerably better. Right now he's just an over hyped New York knick. I don't limit a guy like him in the future. But based on wat we've seen so far he's over rated. Damn you really need to hop off dude.


10.) 18 Jul 2016 20:56:36
No from both teams. Knicks are not moving Noah's $18M contract to the bench for Okafor, and Philly is not getting enough from this deal.


11.) 18 Jul 2016 21:45:35
Actually tre. if you actually read what you wrote. you said okafor will be the best player in a year or two NEXT TO porzingis. What that means is that he will be the second best player, because based off your sentence, porzingis would be the best.

So yes. Reading what you wrote. You said exactly that. Floppy McSalty Flop.


12.) 19 Jul 2016 18:50:45
Lol so you disagree with my trade saying I overvalue sixes players, but yet here you are proposing a trade sending Okafor to the Knicks for Courtney Lee and Kyle oquinn?!?!?! You are way over valuing those guys, Okafor is going to be a STUD, the only reason he's on the block is because of the bad fit on his current team and the plethora of bugs they currently have, Okafor would bring back the best return. Also the Knicks JUST signed Courtney Lee. Why in the hell would they trade him b4 he's played a game, I mean when has that EVER happened? That'll also put the Knicks in a bind bcuz there are no more worthy starting 2 guards left In free agency. This proposal in beyond retarded.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2017 18:36:08
For supercollider, based off his valuations.

Rozier and Bradley for Melo, Porzingis, the 8th and the 2019 and 2021 1sts.

It may be an undervalue of Rozier because of his massive improvements this year, as well as Bradley's undeniable offensive arsenal which can only be considered among the best in the league, and arguably the best defender in the league. but the Celtics are willing to make that gamble. Crazy as it may seem!

Yes its true, Rozier statistically is one of the worst players in the league.

Yes its true, Bradley is an expiring contract, made 1 1st team all defense, 1 2nd team, and then 3 or 4 years without it.
And yes, its true, that his team was actually much better defensively when he was off the court than when he was on it. and as a player had a solid negative impact for the year. but regardless, ITS AVERY BRADLEY AND ROZIER. LEGEDARY!

Eh scratch this trade. prob more likely to net Steph and Klay, right?

hamburger

1.) 06 Jun 2017 19:22:42
This is so weird. something must be wrong!

During the regular season, the 1st place team in the East. Bradley was a -3.2 net rating. that's so odd. His team was actually better when he didn't play. Weird.

But hey, he prob did better in the playoffs right? Offense was about the same when on versus off. Defense.14.5 better when he was off.

SO WEIRD. But hey, legends are built on irrational emotions, not numbers and statistical evidence. YAY SUPERTROLL.


 

 

12 Dec 2016 16:41:12
All this Russell Westbrook talk. how is no one paying attention to the turnovers? he's on pace to break the all time turnover in a season record for both the ABA and NBA by about 50 turnovers. he's a stat machine, but I mean. at some point people need to pay attention to how careless he is being, no?

hamburger

1.) 12 Dec 2016 19:26:08
He's a point guard whos doing a lot without very much help. He's going to have turnovers.


2.) 12 Dec 2016 22:49:49
I wouldn't say he is careless, just has a lot of attention on him and he's trying to do a lot so he'll get turnovers, but yes he does have too many.


3.) 13 Dec 2016 00:23:27
Yes he has the ball almost every time so turnovers will be there. Hard to criticize his flaws if he is carrying the whole team.


4.) 13 Dec 2016 00:54:42
Have to look deeper than that. He has the ball a ton (41.4 usage %) so he is going to have more turnovers. His turnover % is 16.6 (turns it over 16 times out of 100 possessions) which isn't good but not as bad as Harden (19.8%) and John Wall (17.1%) and Lebron is only slightly lower at 16%. He certainly isn't taking care of the ball well but is not historically bad in this regard, he is just getting a historically high usage rate (Kobe holds highest mark at 38.74% in a single season)


 

 

08 Jul 2016 19:33:10
So, there is essentially zero chance and reason for Saric to come over to the sixers next season. If he stays in turkey, hell make 2,3,4 times as much the next year coming. If he comes now, he's getting 4 years for 9 mil.

so heres the thing. Does this really effect the sixers? sixers fans. what's your thoughts/ feelings on this?

hamburger

1.) 08 Jul 2016 20:24:46
Don't think It matters that much anyway it's only going to hurt Saric in the long run I think the sixers should trade his rights because he's not coming because he won't start


2.) 08 Jul 2016 20:35:44
I agree, twolves would gladly offer Bjelica, Jones and 2020 1st. Low ball sure, but its something.


3.) 08 Jul 2016 23:40:56
No matter where he go, he's not starting. This will hurt him but maybe the sixers can trade him.


4.) 09 Jul 2016 15:53:01
I trust the word or Dario. He will be here in 2 weeks. If Dario stays in Turkey, I will never post again.


5.) 10 Jul 2016 00:40:45
he just said he's coming over in a few days.


 

 

24 Jun 2016 17:14:33
Kinda feeling the Rose trade really opens up some options for the Knicks.

so, knicks have what, 35 million in cap space when things are all said and done?

Not likely. but would be rather interesting if the knicks were able to get Whiteside and Bazemore. the numbers would work out about right.

Just saw the idea on bleacherreport of whiteside and porzingis being an insane duo.

rose
Bazemore
Melo
Porzingis
Whiteside

thats a rather ridiculous lineup if they can stay healthy.

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20 Jun 2017 13:33:57
Rebuilding by getting big men that aren't good on defense and giving up all youth and picks? Smart.

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19 Jun 2017 16:01:33
You are legit the worst Knicks fan imaginable.

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18 Jun 2017 17:18:50
Knicks response. no.

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17 Jun 2017 18:08:59
How do sixers move from 3 to 1 by only giving up a bench player for the third worst team in the league?

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17 Jun 2017 18:08:02
HAHAHA ok Celtics fan.

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