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19 May 2017 16:57:13
Bulls celtics and sixers.

Sixers trade okafor, three pick, and Covington
Sixers get first pick

Celtics trade Avery Bradley and number one pick
Celtics get jimmy butler.

Bulls trade jimmy butler
Bulls get three pick, okafor, Covington and Avery Bradley.

Bulls completely rebuild

Sixers get fultz who they probably need to complete their rebuilding efforts.

Celtics finally get a star player so they have a realistic chance to go to the finals. Right now there the celtics have zero chance to beat cavs or golden state. They need to make a move if not this one.

TreGib

1.) 19 May 2017 21:25:16
I would definitely prefer just getting #1 and Bradley over Okafor, Covington and #3 if I were the Bulls. 76ers would need to add their or Lakers 2018 pick for me to justify involving them in trade (can keep covington and Okafor in that scenario) . Celtics being how they are will probably draft Fultz and try and sign Hayward before trying to make a move for Butler.


 

 

22 Feb 2017 19:06:02
PACERs and sixers.

Sixers trade: Noel, (better of sixers and Sacramento pick swap), lakers pick ( top three protected 2017 and unprotected in 2018) sacramento 2019 unprotected pick.

Pacers trade Paul George.

Pacers rebuild right away getting three unprotected first assuming lakers pick doesn't convey this year. Sets themselves up for a solid rebuild going forward. They sign Noel to play next to turner. Turner shoots 37 percent from three so the pairing could be solid.

Sixers get a star without giving up embiid or Simmons, who are their most important assets. They have a ton of money left to sign a few more players and George is under contract for the next two season. That's a solid group to build with going forward.

TreGib

1.) 22 Feb 2017 19:41:41
Too much for potentially one year of george.


2.) 22 Feb 2017 20:23:18
Not a chance. George alone won't make the 76ers all that better. Basically 4 1sts for George? NOT in this lifetime.


3.) 22 Feb 2017 22:26:07
How is that 4 firsts? Is a 4 year vet still considered a rookie now?


4.) 22 Feb 2017 23:14:23
There pick would become a lotto pick. No way philly does this!


5.) 23 Feb 2017 00:05:42
i take this as an indy fan.

This would only work for the sixers if B Simmons can play PG. They hope he can become the next Giannis antetokounpo, but i think he should play PF.


 

 

14 Feb 2017 20:51:27
Bulls knicks and Philly

Sixers trade okafor staukis
Sixers get mirotic, mcbuckets, and rondo.

Bulls trade mirotic, mcbuckets, and rondo.
Bulls get melo

Knicks trade melo
Knicks get okafor staukis


Only a six player deal so possible. Bulls take a run at the title. Sixers get mcbuckets and mirotic for accepting rondos contract. Knicks get the guy they wanted on draft day in okafor to pair with provingus. Staukis helps a bit for youth movement as well.

TreGib

1.) 14 Feb 2017 20:59:56
With the emergence of Hernangomez and the boat anchor contract of Noah, along with O'Quinn, I don't see the Knicks being as interested in Okafor today as they were 18 months ago.


2.) 14 Feb 2017 21:27:45
Well let's Ben real Noah is way past his prime.

Hernangomez is nothing. Like literally nothing. He's tj McConnell. Playing well but back up quality. o quinn I still a pf.


3.) 15 Feb 2017 04:10:42
Agree 100 percent Hernangomez comment tre. For sure a backup on not even a good team, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

the sixers shouldn't need to take on rondo in this deal though.


 

 

05 Feb 2017 15:22:29
Sixers lakers realistic trade.

Sixers trade Noel and lakers pick.

Lakers trade Ingram

I think Sixers's give enough here for sure. They get a player of the future who they can start molding now with Simmons coming back soon and embiid. Sixers still have the swap with sac and that means another high prospect coming soon.

Sixers starts next year

Dennis smith
Staukis
Ingram
Simmons
Embiid

Lakers finally can say the tanking is worth it for sure as they keep they're pick this year so one of ball Jackson fultz smith would be a great addition. If nothing else it looks like it could be a long rebuild so they keep the unprotected pick next year. They also get a legit starting center in Noel who will absolutely help that teams terrible defense. He's a restricted free agent so lakers can match any offer and have him for four more years.

Lakers starters next year.

Russell
Jackson/ smith/ ball etc
Young
Randle
Noel.

Young could be easily replaced with a mid level free agent.

TreGib

1.) 05 Feb 2017 15:34:16
All 76ers could get for Noel right now is a second-rounder. As a RFA the team that trades for him might have to way overpay just to keep him around.


2.) 05 Feb 2017 17:20:37
Noel is a borderline starter at best. There are at least 20 centers I'd take over him. He doesn't have a ton of value, especially since someone is going to overpay him because of the flashy defensive potential. And the lakers pick doesn't hold a ton of value either, as they're currently sitting 3rd right now, so they'd keep their pick again.

I wouldn't trade Ingram for those two. I think if you wanted him you'd have to include philis pick instead of the laker pick.


3.) 05 Feb 2017 17:28:01
Noel is Deandre Jordan without Chris Paul. If he had a great point guard he would be just as good if not better than Jordan. Extremely undervalued and I believe the Sixers should hang on to him and see what he can do with someone like Lonzo Ball or Dennis Smith maybe Jrue Holiday. Also will be showcased when Simmons comes back.


4.) 05 Feb 2017 18:07:54
Lol @sheeee, better than Jordan? Nah


5.) 05 Feb 2017 18:12:43
B Miller.

And how is Ingram a starter again. O wait he isn't. And while o see flashes her and there it's no more flashes then I saw with Noel in his rookie year

Supercollider

I know this is shocking but if someone is overpaying for Noel I guess he's worth something then huh. Must be somewhat good player huh. So why woudlnt the lakers want him. Worst defense in the league.


6.) 05 Feb 2017 19:06:22
Noel hasn't improved since his rookie year, he's javale mcgee, not deandre Jordan.

Ingram is a 19 year old rookie that has started less than 20 games. He has potential that we haven't seen yet. Noel has been in the NBA for 4 years and hasn't shown that he's a starter, but has shown that he has some major injury issues. and he's not an elite defender, he's above average at best.

On overpaying Noel: crabbe, Turner, deng, and biyombo got overpaid too, doesn't mean they're worth nearly what they got. That's why trading for Noel would scare me.


7.) 05 Feb 2017 19:28:57
Bmiller.

I can see that. If Noel was the only center on my roster I would have signed him without a problem. The thing is with embiid there and okafor under contract that's more of a back up kind of pay it's hard for me to say Philly will resign him. They might though and trade okafor. I think that says everything you need to know about Noel's value.

Philly "might" resign him to play 15 minutes off the bench at a max deal. If the suxers, a team who has the least reason to have Noel on the roster in the league may resign him for max he must have some serious value. Especially on a team like the lakers who desperately need a big man. Mozgof was a mistake. Back up I guess.


8.) 05 Feb 2017 21:56:35
Due to the Lakers current record they may keep their pick regardless so I don't think it holds as much value as it should to them. If it were the Philly pick instead I think they'd be more interested. I think Noel is a better player than most people think but his trade value is still quite low due to his contract situation and his numbers are down from last year (although not really his fault).

I could see Lakers being interested in Noel especially since there aren't any good bigs in this upcoming draft (although next year is loaded with them) but I don't think they'd want to give up Ingram to do so. I think something along the lines of a Clarkson and Noel swap would be beneficial for both sides.


 

 

29 Jan 2017 15:27:18
I think after reviewing some online material and other rumor sites the value of melo is worse then even I thought. So new trade.

Sixers and Knicks.

Sixers trade okafor ( who Knicks targeted in the prozingus draft) and staukis.

Knicks trade melo.

Money would be just right. Knicks drop melo a little late but get two young guys in return. They tank the rest of the year and trade away any pieces they can. End up around the eight pick in the draft and get a Guy like monk Tatum or fox. Next years starters

Fox
Staukis
Lee
Prozingus
Okafor.

Not actually a bad group to start a rebuild with. Also will have fifty plus million in cap room.

Sixers get a guy in melo ( two year left on his deal) can be a bridge until Simmons and embiid and current draft picks are ready to win consistently. SIXERS HAVE THE SACRAMENTO SWAP SO WINNING doesn't HURT THEIR DRAFT PICK THAT MUCH. THEY ALSO HAVE THE LAKERS PICK IF THAT CONVEYS.

Sixers starters post all star break.
Mcconell
Henderson
Melo
Simmons
Embiid.

Sixers would have around 30 mil once they sign their draft picks ont he offseason and Noel for 15 mil. Plenty to sign a mid level free agent pg OR POSSIBLY ONE STAR. if they choose not to resign Noel that cap room could be even greater.

TreGib

1.) 29 Jan 2017 16:35:15
I just don't see the Knicks trading for Okafor, further jumbling their Center position and adding another below average defender to an already porous team.


2.) 29 Jan 2017 17:01:01
Triangle.

I don't see the issue at center. Are you talking about o quinn and Noah? Neither are Nba starters. I'm actually hoping the Knicks can get rid of Noah immediately somehow. He's not going to get better. Only worse.

If I was the Knicks I'd fire sale and tank. But frankly I just feel like that's the only way they succeed from here.


3.) 29 Jan 2017 18:58:03
PER:

Average = 12.0
Noah = 15.27
O'Quinn = 20.56
Okafor = 15.06

So, in theory, all 3 are above average, Okafor is the worst of the 3. Provides zero defense. The worst rebounder. And is a black hole on offense.

So agian. why would they want him?

Also, you literally trashed melo for 2-3 years, now you want him? Interesting.

There are joke sites that post a sixers trade. None were serious, and melo clearly would veto that. Calm down Tre.

Ideally, knicks can trade noah, trade or just not resign rose. Melo, likely get some expiring contracts and a pick or two. And then start a rebuild around Porzingis. absolutely NO interest in okafor.

Great, he was drafted before Porzingis. And Darko was before Melo, Wade and Bosh. what's your point?

I always love your posts. well, I guess well do you a favor and give an elite center like okafor for melo. but were just doing it to be nice. Get out of here with that hypocritical noise


4.) 30 Jan 2017 00:06:40
Hamburger

You know what your right. I'm so iffy on this deal. Melo is a cancer. I wish I could say I was sure adding him would help the sixers. your probably right. In a perfect world melo would have a legit two years left on his career. In a perfect world he'd be the scorer the sixers need to finish games consistently. But I now better. He'll just hold the young guys back.

As for the center situation on the Knicks. really. So you'd keep Noah and o Quinn as your future centers? No way. Okafor is younger and has much more upside. Knicks need a fire sale. But your right. Melo needs a perfect world to help a team win. He just is too much of a ball hog. I'm glad you reminded me.


5.) 30 Jan 2017 00:33:01
TreGib,

You forget about Hernangomez, who looks good as well. I would rather have O'Quinn and him than Okafor.

You claim Melo's a cancer, yet he's one of the most popular guys amongst the players in the L. Did you see how well he fit into the US team this time out? Don't mistake ball hog with bad guy.


6.) 30 Jan 2017 02:53:09
Triangle.

I did. I also noticed he didn't make the all star game. I also noticed he's 32. I also noticed he never wins anything ever. I also noticed he's got two years left at way above his worth. I also noticed that even though the Knicks had a ton of cap space in the offseason not one major free agent considered them.

Idk about a cancer. but a ball hog he absolutely is. A young team could really take a step back adding him because he takes so many bad shots and those shots should be taken by the young guys and have them learn from them.

Perfect world. He plays his role well and teaches guys like Simmons how to win in the NBA . but I am trying really hard to see it. and i really want to see it. but I know better. There's a good chance he'd kill the Sixers progress. There's a chance he'd lead us to the eight seed. not sure it's worth the risk.


7.) 30 Jan 2017 04:02:18
The hate for okafor is real on here.

He plays behind the rookie of the year and a guy that will be on all NBA defensive teams in the years to come.

Saying to would rather have guys like herengomez and Oquinn just magnifies the hate.

That being said, Melo isn't a bum either and still has a few good years left in him. I just think that having to out there night in and night out losing, with no one but porzingis can be wearing. Okafor alone wouldn't get him.


 

 

 

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24 Dec 2016 17:14:41
Okay. Just want to hear teams best offer for Okafor.

Scouting report form watching him a lot:

Strenghts: Very high offensive iq. Great post scorer. Can pass above average when willing to actually pass. Mid range jump is actually above average. Still young and on his rookie deal. Defense is getting better but a long way away from even being average for the position. Has potential to be an above average rebounder given his frame but effort hold him back in that regard.

Weaknesses:
Pick and roll defense is terrible. Lays too far off both guys in the pick and roll leaving both guys uncovered. Ball hog once he get the ball in a post up position. Could be coaching but he needs a significant number of shots to be effective and make up for his defense. Also does not play above the rim much. Rarely leaves his feet on defense and with a 6 10 frame that leaves much to be desired on defense. Also has poor effort at time. His motor must be constantly focused.

Outlook:
has potential to be al Jefferson in his prime. But his effort seems to be a constant question. When he's focused and playing hard his skills are very effective on even the defensive end. But the Problem is getting him to give that effort consistently.

So what's the best offer you would give for him?

TreGib

1.) 24 Dec 2016 19:16:04
Wolves offer Adrien Payne.


2.) 25 Dec 2016 07:17:09
Lakers offer Clarkson.


3.) 25 Dec 2016 08:08:15
Mavs offer Justin Anderson Wes Mathews 18 top 5 protected pick but sixers send us rashaun Holmes and a second rounder.


4.) 25 Dec 2016 20:11:40
Bulls offer Mirotic and a second


5.) 26 Dec 2016 13:34:33
Your report is laughable. Can pass. If he wants.

Outlook. He will be al Jefferson at his best. So all star level pf. Yes he's done nothing to prove that besides stat stuff on the worst team so well that they bench him.

But I've watched him I know he can pass real good. If he ever chooses to pass. What a homer.


6.) 27 Dec 2016 22:54:41
Hamburger.

Al Jefferson in his prime in today NBA is different then in his era. Some would say al Jefferson doesn't fit in today NBA. Other say he'd bring the position back. But that's a good comparison for okafor. Smaller then average center. Good post moves. Not amazing defense. that's al Jefferson in husband prime.


7.) 27 Dec 2016 22:55:23
ALSO keep in mind with these ideas the sixers do not need anymore bigs.


 

 

27 Sep 2016 01:35:38
Who would Suns rather trade?

Bledsoe, booker, knight, or warren.

TreGib

1.) 27 Sep 2016 12:19:18
not Booker, unless they get LBJ, KD, PG, Curry or Thompson

I thik Bledsoe, his value is higher than Knight, but Knight is a good PG and he has lesser injurys.


2.) 27 Sep 2016 21:09:50
Gasupo

What's bledsoes value?


3.) 28 Sep 2016 02:57:16
He's a great pg, but he isn't an all star and he had some injuries. But He's on a good contract for three years. He can play defense and offence ( good shooter and passer) So that's difficult to say.

The thing is, there are many good pointguards

I would only trade Noel for Bledsoe, because i think there are teams that are going to offer him to much money to keep him.

I would gamble, match the Noel offers and try to trade Okafor for Bledsoe and the Miami pick (If Phoenix still want a big for Bledsoe)


4.) 28 Sep 2016 13:18:03
Gasupo

I could see it but I don't think Phoenix gives any picks along with Bledsoe.

I personally really like Bledsoe. But after the injury his value is low until he proves healthy. He's such an explosive player so to hurt a leg means a sharp drop in play unless it's completely healed.

I'd do Noel for him or Okafor for him. Straight up.


5.) 28 Sep 2016 22:22:34
if he can stay healty, .


 

 

06 Sep 2016 21:57:40
Bradley beal or John wall trade?

I don't even think it's close.

TreGib

1.) 06 Sep 2016 23:31:21
Obviously we would all want to keep wall over beal but teams won't give full value for beal due to his injuries and maybe his contract.


 

 

11 Aug 2016 20:21:28
Hearing reports nerlen Noel is open to being traded. Boston is a nice target spot for him. Posted on Twitter by Noel #boston strong and love my city.

So which of these would make most sense.

Noel for:

1 smart
2 Bradley
3 crowder
4 brown
5 Brooklyn swap next year
6 Brooklyn pick in 2018
7 rodier, young and hunter

Their are the only players I can see that wou do interest the Sixers. The 7th package is really a bunch of role players. That's why it would cost all of them.

TreGib

1.) 12 Aug 2016 03:21:17
Smart and a non Bkn 1st.


2.) 12 Aug 2016 04:43:47
Smart doesn't fit well with Sixers. I'd rather this as a main package (other pieces added and needed)
Celtics get Noel
76ers get Knight
Suns get Smart.


3.) 12 Aug 2016 14:05:22
NBA

Why would Suns want smart over knight?


4.) 12 Aug 2016 16:59:56
Because Smart is younger, and he fits with the team better long term because of his defense. He would be a great fit beside Booker long term.


5.) 12 Aug 2016 21:03:07
NBA. And where would he play?

Bledsoe, booker, warren

Then there's smart who wouldn't start. It essential trading a guard for a guard for the Suns. No reason to do.


6.) 12 Aug 2016 23:51:39
Then they could use bledsoe as a main piece for trading for a star player but will depend on his health.


7.) 13 Aug 2016 00:13:54
He would come off the bench and learn from Bledsoe and can play beside him at times. Plus Bledsoe is often hurt.


 

 

09 Aug 2016 15:18:10
If Sixers keep everyone they currently have. Who shou do start and be back ups.

I think Oakfor is Better then Noel but on a starting group of Simmons bayless Henderson and Embiid scoring hail don't be a problem. I think the Sixers sacrifice scoring in the starting group for defense in Noel. Meanwhile the back up group has Oakfor as its focus.

Pg bayless, Sergio
Sg Henderson, staukis
Sf Simmons, Covington
Pf Noel, saric
C Embiid, Oakfor.

TreGib

1.) 09 Aug 2016 18:14:40
I think Saric will be the 4 since the Sixers will need shooting with Simmons playing 3 and I think Noel starts and Embiid maybe replaces him later in the year but not game 1


2.) 09 Aug 2016 19:16:12
I think they love Embiid. I think he's a most likely starter so they can control his minutes. I believe that's wat colangelo said during summer league.


3.) 11 Aug 2016 12:46:27
There day 1 line up will be
Pg- bayless
Sg- Henderson
Sf/ pg- Simmons
Pf- Noel
C- okafor.


 

 

 

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19 May 2017 16:59:21
Eric Bledsoe is a good player but clearly on his way out of the suns. Sixers need to give more though. Maybe okafor and 2 2nds plus a swap in the draft so the suns can draft Jackson instead of settling of the Tatum or monk.

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09 Mar 2017 14:57:18
That's a pretty solid outcome. Of course your missing a few key details if the sixers continue like they have been historically.

1 Ben Simmons will be on a minute restriction and no back to backs next year.

2 embiid while he hasn't had the surgery to fix his meniscus yet I'm 85 percent sure he will get it by the end of the month. That means he'll miss the start of next season and be on a similar minute restriction as this year.

3. Sixers are seen to be all about losing right now so I don't see jute holiday being signed. These owners are cheap and greedy a holes and con artists.

So don't get your hopes too high for this team. Tank five may very well be coming next year as well.

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02 Mar 2017 13:27:34
Sixers are a joke. Just lose forever right.

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28 Feb 2017 21:13:55
Btw. I don't see fultz as a generational talent. Sorry. I do see Simmons as having that potential. Ingram I don't either. Oakfor I don't see it.

So I give up a generational talent for two none generational talent. I'll pass.

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28 Feb 2017 15:57:08
Sixers pass. Ingram has barely impressed me. Most days he's unimpressive. I'd take the injured Simmons every time.

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