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14 Jul 2019 22:06:49
CLE-BOS-DEN


BOS gets Love,


CLE gets Hayward, Milsap


DEN gets CLE 20201st rd, Clarkson, Henson, Osman



Kemba/ Smart
Brown/ Iggy
Tatum/ Langford
Kanter/ Theis
Love/ Williams

Sexton/ Garland
KPJ/ Nwaba
Hayward/ Stauskas
Milsap/ Nance
Thompson/ Zizic

Murray/ / Morris
Harris/ Clarkson
Barton/ Beasley
Grant/ Cedi/ Plumlee
Jokic/ Hernagomez/ Bol Bol.

15 Jul 2019 00:07:31
Love is the best player in this trade, Cedi is a solid young guy, and the Cavs are giving up a top 5 pick for a guy who was bad last year and an over the hill Millsap.

15 Jul 2019 01:47:10
Love may be the best player in the deal, but he only played 22 games last season and has missed at least 20 games the past 3 seasons.
So, that needs to be taken into account.
I'm not sure this is the right deal, but Love would be a great replacement for Horford, if he can stay on the court.

15 Jul 2019 09:26:22
Joe, sure, but the Cavs aren’t trading Love unless they can get value. That’s been reported since December. They’re definitely not giving up picks or you players to move him. It’s not like capspace is a big deal for them.

15 Jul 2019 12:39:27
Then the Cavs should keep him and his huge salary and let him miss 30 plus games while they miss the playoffs. Yup. that's the ticket.

15 Jul 2019 13:18:34
There’s no downside in keeping him, if you’re not getting anything back or having to give up assets.

14 Jul 2019 16:22:53
Hou: K Love

Cle: E gordon+Tucker+frazier

14 Jul 2019 16:48:15
Frazier or Love. By the who is frazier.

14 Jul 2019 20:01:40
Michael Frazier a nonguatenteed bench sitter.

14 Jul 2019 20:03:22
Fyi. Cleveland only moving Love for picks.

14 Jul 2019 05:23:48
Heyward to Cavs and love to Boston. Plus Cavs can swap their own pick with the Memphis one via Boston.
Walker
Brown
Tatum
Love

14 Jul 2019 14:25:44
This make sense.

14 Jul 2019 18:09:55
It makes no sense for the Cavs. The just swap Love for a worse player. The Memphis pick is protected and the Cavs are almost guaranteed to be in the bottom 5 this year.

14 Jul 2019 00:58:51
Orl: K Love+Sexton

Cle: A Gordon+ Bamba+Iwundu

14 Jul 2019 23:27:03
Maybe garland not sexton.

13 Jul 2019 02:50:17
The Whole Beal/Wall to Combo in trade got me thinking if the Cavs want go for it all.

First trade Cavs Wizards

Cavs receive
Wall
Beal

Wizards receive
Thompson(exp)
Henson(exp)
Clarkson(exp)
Nance Jr
Cavs 2023 first round pick

Second Trade

Cavs OKC

Cavs receive
Paul

OKC receives
Smith
Knight
Dellavedova
2022 second round pick

Cavs line up after trade (4 spots to fill)

PG Paul, Garland (Wall)
SG Beal, Sexton (Wanamaker 1yr min)
SF Osman, Porter Jr, Windler
PF Love (Faried 1yr 4mil)
C Zizic (Koufus 1yr Min) (Pachulia 1yr min)

Cavs take a chance and pick up 3 stars. Wall will give four stars and no better players for the young rooks to learn from. Free agents could be a lot better. Couldn't remember many left off the top of my head.

13 Jul 2019 16:34:19
In what world would a team be able to afford love, beal, paul, and wall?

13 Jul 2019 18:05:29
In a same world that a team is able to have Curry Russell Thompson and Green.

12 Jul 2019 13:30:19
OKC - Mia - Cle

Heat get CP3

Thunder get Dragic and JR

Cavs get James Johnson and very lightly protected Miami 1st rounder

11 Jul 2019 11:13:56
The Cavs get Patterson and Winslow

The Heat get Gallo and Westbrook

The Thunder get Smith(waive), Dragic(expiring), Johnson, Leonard, Jones, 22 1st swap rights, the protections dropped on the Hear 23 1st, and the Heat 25 1st

10 Jul 2019 19:47:38
What if after meeting with management, Russ stays and they trade for new costars?

Cavs get Adams, Dre, Patterson, 2 2nds via OKC

Wizards get Jr Smith, Schröder, Ferguson, 2 Miami 1sts via OKC

Thunder get Love, Beal

Russ, SGA
Beal, Diallo
Gallinari, Burton
Love, Bazley
Noel, Muscala

They still have: $10.4M trade exception from the George trade, 3 1sts from the Clips, cut salary, added shooting. They can still flip Gallinari to a team wanting cap space next summer to add depth if they choose.

10 Jul 2019 20:47:31
Obama is and harden wasnt enough but you think beal and love will be?

11 Jul 2019 09:10:26
I can’t see the Cavs having any interest in that and that’s a pretty laughable offer for Beal.

10 Jul 2019 16:02:37
Heat

Get-Russell Westbrook Kevin Love Brandon Knight Delly T Ferg

Thunder

Get-Justice Winslow Goran Dragic Kelly Olynk Cedi Osman picks

Cavs

Get-Bam Adebayo James Johnson Dion Waiters Andre Roberson picks

10 Jul 2019 16:22:03
Picks from who? I don't think Miami can trade one until 2026. Their 2021 pick goes to OKC already, as does their 2023 pick (has protection for 2 years on it) .

10 Jul 2019 04:35:23
Miami/Oklahoma/Cleveland

To Miami/ Russell Westbrook + Kevin Love

- reunite the old teammates and form a good contending team with Butler

- sign Livingston min, Noah or Gortat min,

Westbrook/Herro/Butler/Love/Leonard
Livingston/Waiters/Jones/Robinson/Noah or Gortat

To Oklahoma/ Justise Winslow + Collin Sexton + James Johnson + 2025 Miami 1st

- get a new look back court with Sexton & Alexander

Sexton/Alexander/Winslow/Gallinari/Adams

Schoeder/Diallo/Roberson/Nader/Johnson/Noel/Bazley/Muscala

To Cleveland/ Bam Adebayo + Terrence Ferguson + Goran Dragic (exp) + Kelly Olynyk + KZ Okpala + 2 2nd round picks Miami

- get a young center to grow with the team, losing Sexton might not be easy though.

Garland/Dragic/Osman/Olynyk/Adebayo
Dellavedova/Knight/Clarkson/Okpala/Porter/Nance/Thompson/Henson

08 Jul 2019 02:40:58
Hear me out. I'm a Thunder fan and very little of what I'm hearing for Russ trades. I want cap relief and/or picks. I don't want a swap of garbage salaries. Is Russ overpaid? Sure. Is he volatile and make questionable calls? Sure. Is he a superstar? Yes. We won't get a Paul George haul for Russ, but stop with the bad deals.

I've been on the trade machine like crazy trying to figure out what deal could work. What about this?

Hawks get Beal
***They lose Turner and picks, but Beal would elevate the Hawks into a dark horse in the east. Small price to pay for a great fit and a great talent. Young squad that could legitimately make a run in the East in the next few seasons.

Wizards get Westbrook, Turner
***Beal is a tough loss, but they get a massive win in moving Wall. The sweetener comes with a reunion of Russ and Scott Brooks along with a clean slate for the Wizards.

Thunder get Wall, four 1sts (Wiz 2020, Wiz 2022, Cavs 2020 via ATL, OKC 2022 via ATL)
***Wall won't play, and that's to OKC's advantage. Embrace the rebuild! This nets another 4 first round picks. That's a huge nest egg for the Thunder as they rebuild. They can continue to tear down OR run it back with those changes and could compete for the 8th seed while adding in those firsts.

Thoughts?

08 Jul 2019 05:41:12
Sooooo. Wizards are giving up Wall, Beal and 2 firsts for Westbrook and Evan Turner. Seriously?

You understand that in a Beal Westbook swap OKC would be the team giving up firsts, right?

For the most part, Wall for Westbrook is a push. Not a 4 LOTTERY PICK advantage for OKC.

08 Jul 2019 08:27:06
Atlanta not giving enough.
Okc :wall 3 first from hawks

Hawks: beal

Wizards: westbrook turner first from hawks.

08 Jul 2019 00:52:11
OKC-Cleveland

Thunder receive:
Kevin Love
Tristan Thompson
JR Smith

Cavs receive:
Steven Adams
Dennis Schroder
Andre Roberson
Patrick Patterson
2 or 3 first round picks.

08 Jul 2019 02:03:05
Thunder would never. Can’t see them being that desperate unless Russell will only stay if they trade for Love which isn’t going to be a deciding factor.

08 Jul 2019 02:24:30
Kind of funny because I was thinking Cleveland says no. This trade does not help the rebuild nor gets Cleveland under the luxury tax.

08 Jul 2019 04:03:29
Dont need picks adam worth more than love.

08 Jul 2019 00:23:00
OKC: K Love

Cle: Mahinmi+ Robertson+ 1rnd pick Was

Was: D Schroder+ 2rnd pick OKC

OKC:
Sign K Korver

C:Adams/Noel
PF:K Love/Patterson
SF:Gallinari/Grant
SG:Ferguson/Korver
PG: Westbrook/SGA

08 Jul 2019 01:21:03
Why okc fans want to screw teams after they dumped their best player smh.

08 Jul 2019 05:47:39
Trying to figure out how Shroeder and Roberson nets OKC a better player in Love AND a lottery pick. can anyone explain this to me?

08 Jul 2019 09:24:39
Robertson and Mahinmi are on a one year contract, so Cleveland saves money and they get a pick.

Schroder can be the starting pointguard for Washington and they can dump Mahinmi, so that's worth a pick.

07 Jul 2019 02:36:10
Cleveland / Oklahoma City

Westbrook, Adams, Patterson, and Ferguson to the Cavaliers for

Thompson, Smith, Clarkson, and Nance JR and a future 1st Round (unprotected) Pick and swap 2 1st Round Picks as well.

Thunder waive Roberson and Smith immediately.

07 Jul 2019 06:27:42
I don’t think it’s likely but I honestly think there a small chance the Cavs could try and do something like this. It doesn’t make any sense honestly for Cleveland besides the fact that they may want to be competitive and with Love being Russ old teammate. This could be an option. Long term though Russ Garland and Sexton really doesn’t make sense. But if they want a star this may be the only way.

08 Jul 2019 20:42:46
Clearly a cavs fan. How does okc trade Westbrook, Adams, and Ferguson only to receive 1 first round pick. The swaps won’t matter cause okc will be worse than cavs after this trade. Worst I’ve seen all week

06 Jul 2019 15:55:07
TOTAL REBUILD for OKC


OKC/ MIN/ MIA

OKC gets MIA 1st 2020, Winslow, Dragic, Wiggins, Covington
*Sends picks acquired from LAC to CLE for K. Love


MIN gets Shai, Roberson, Adams


Westbrook
Herro
Butler
JJ
Bam


Teague
Shai
Roberson
Towns
Adams


Dragic
Wiggins
Covington
Winslow
Love.

06 Jul 2019 18:46:48
Miami cannot trade its 2020 pick until draft day because Miami does not own a 2021 first rounder per the CBA.

05 Jul 2019 18:37:36
So here's a three team trade

MIN/OKC/CLE

Minnesota gets Jr Smith

Cleveland gets Steven Adams, Andrew Wiggins, T-Wolves 2023 first, OKC 2024

OKC get Kevin love

This works out perfectly for the wolves to get rid of the terrible Andrew Wiggins contract and have an expiring deal on JR. Cleveland gets a solid Center in Adams and two first round picks. OKC get the third player to pair with Westbrook and George and the Chemistry could be really good with love and Westbrook going to college together

05 Jul 2019 19:36:27
And this gets Cleveland under the luxury cap how exactly? Why would the Cavs be willing to pay the luxury tax (again) when this still will not be a playoff team? For a couple of 1sts in the distant future? Just stop.

05 Jul 2019 20:32:28
The Cavs don’t even get enough back to take on Wiggins.

05 Jul 2019 21:18:32
Twolves rather pay Wiggins shorter deal than love.

04 Jul 2019 22:06:38
HEAT :
Sign DeMarcus Cousins, Amar'e Stoudemire, Delon Wright, Monta Ellis or Jamal Crawforx


Trade :
HEAT : Wall, Beal, Jr Smith
Wizards : Love, Dragic, Herro, Leonard
Cavs : Olynyk, Waiters, Anderson (Waive), Howard, Robinson




Wall/Winslow/Wright
Beal/Smith/Ellis or Crawford
Butler/Jones Jr/Okpala
Adebayo/Johnson/Maten
Cousins/Stoudemire/Haslem

05 Jul 2019 12:36:26
It doesn’t make any sense for the Cavs. They’re better off keeping Love and getting off the jr money.

03 Jul 2019 10:51:33
Miami: K Love+ CP3

Hou: R Anderson+ dragic

Cle: J Johnson+ waiters+ 1rnd pick Miami 2023


Miami:
C:Adebayo
PF: K Love
SF:Winslow
SG:Butler
PG: CP3

03 Jul 2019 17:17:15
Miami can’t trade anthoter 1st til 2025.

03 Jul 2019 18:51:55
We would be stuck with 3 aging folks in CP3, Butler and Love for at least 3 or 4 more years.
I like Love over CP3 though.
Dont know why Houston does it but I'd risk it if Beal isn't a possiblity.

03 Jul 2019 00:45:18
Boston gets Adams, Roberson
***Boston has plenty of offense, so how about a little extra defense? Also, surely if anyone can teach Dre to hit a free throw, Brad Stevens can.

Cleveland gets Hayward
***I feel like Hayward is the wing equivalent to Love. Why not team them up? Maybe they could be a playoff team. It's only a 2 season commitment to Hayward.

Oklahoma City gets Thompson, Smith (waive), Osman
***Savings win championships, right? Thompson may not replace the void left by Adams, but he's fine behind Noel who deserved more minutes anyways. Waiving Smith could net the cap relief they crave. And Osman is a slight upgrade as a shooter who can boost their bench.

03 Jul 2019 01:55:03
Pass on Hayward. Unless a pick is attached. Also, I wouldn’t give up Osman without getting something significant back. It just doesn’t make any sense to trade any young talent guy.

03 Jul 2019 02:03:29
Why in the world would Cleveland make this move, it’s awful for them.

02 Jul 2019 19:43:39
Instead of two posts, heres two trades i'd like to see..
Heat get Beal
Wizards get Dragic, Meyers Leonard & Dion Waiters

Second one
Miami gets Love
Cavs get Meyers Leonard, Winslow & Olynyk

02 Jul 2019 21:11:21
Why would washington do the first one?

02 Jul 2019 22:03:11
Why do people still want Love. He has proven hurt or piss poor defense.

03 Jul 2019 18:54:03
Washington needs to rebuild, they overpaid Wall. They made a series of bad moves and have never scratched the surface. This gives them money in 2020 and 2021 which they do not have.
As for Love, it's because he can shoot and when healthy, he's a double double in his sleep.

 
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