Cleveland Cavaliers Rumours

02 Oct 2023 07:58:37
Blazers/Clippers/T-Wolves

T-Wolves
Get
Malcolm Brogdon

Clippers
Get
Mike Conley

Blazers
Get
Nicolas Batum
Robert Covington
Amir Coffey
2024 2nd.via Raptors from Clippers
2024 2nd.via Pacers swap with Jazz or Cavaliers from Clippers

02 Oct 2023 12:44:14
i like this trade

Conley would be a great fit for the clippers

Minny loses a great leader, but they get a younger player back

And Portland is getting two future assets.

02 Oct 2023 18:43:04
No idea why Minnesota would consider this. Brogdon is not nearly as reliable as Conley and he's not a good PG. He's a scorer.

28 Sep 2023 16:20:07
Cleveland gets: Duncan Robinson, Caleb Martin & '26 srp via Lakers
Miami gets: Isaac Okoro, Ricky Rubio, Dean Wade & Sam Merrill

Why?
Cleveland adds a shooter & a wing. They add much needed wings to the roster.
Miami does this to unload Robinson for more cap flexibility. Okoro is a decent prospect worth taking a close look. Dean Wade is a shooting big, could bring value off the bench. Rubio is non-guaranteed for next season & is considering retirement.

28 Sep 2023 18:38:16
Miami gives up the best player and draft capital. LOL!

28 Sep 2023 19:42:25
They also dump a bad contract & get under the tax.

29 Sep 2023 00:48:31
Miami is one of those teams that doesn't worry too much about the tax level.

25 Sep 2023 19:22:38
SAC - CLE

Sacramento receives: Isaac Okoro (uses trade exception from Holmes trade)

Cleveland receives: Chris Duarte, future 2nd

SAC signs Ish Smith to play the veteran role that Dellavedova had last year. CLE signs Cameron Payne to replace Rubio.

SAC depth:
Fox / Mitchell / Smith
Huerter / Monk / Jones
Barnes / Okoro / Edwards
Murray / Lyles / Vezenkhov
Sabonis / McGee / Len

CLE depth:
Garland / Payne / Jerome
Mitchell / Duarte / Merrill
Strus / LeVert
Mobley / Niang / Wade
Allen / Jones / Thompson

25 Sep 2023 19:55:31
Thought there was an exception for Holmes, looks like I was wrong though.

26 Sep 2023 16:56:10
Doesn't matter. Kings weren't letting Duarte go for that cheap of a package.

22 Sep 2023 18:50:41
Cleveland gets: Tim Hardaway Jr. & Jaden Hardy
Dallas gets: Isaac Okoro, Ricky Rubio, Dean Wade & 2 2nds ('25 & '26)

Why?
Cleveland upgrades their bench.
Dallas gets salary relief next year & a cheap big who can stretch the floor.

24 Sep 2023 23:00:14
Not enough for Hardaway + Hardy.

21 Sep 2023 07:21:24
IND/BKN/BOS/CLE eastern shake up

IND get Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade & pick swap from CLE, 2 2nds (CLE/BOS)
- pick swap from CLE could be changed to a 1st round pick if IND prefers, that's negotiable. Someone could give a 1st for Hield. Pacers add a young guy they can develop

Pg Haliburton/McConnell
Sg Brown/Nembhard
Sf Mathurin/Okoro/Nwora
Pf Toppin/Walker/Jackson
Ce Turner/Theis/Wade

BKN get Malcolm Brogdon & BOS 2nd round pick
- Nets have a good wing depth already, they can use a backup vet guard

Pg Dinwiddie/Brogdon/Smith Jr
Sg Bridges/Walker/Whitehead
Sf Oneale/Thomas/Bazley
Pf Johnson/Simmons
Ce Claxton/Giles/Clowney

BOS get Buddy Hield & Dayron Sharpe
- gets a shooter to add more firepower

Pg White/Pritchard
Sg Brown/Hield/Banton
Sf Tatum/Hauser/Mykhailuk
Pf Porzingis/Brissett/Kornet
Ce Williams/Horford/Sharpe

CLE get Dorean Finney-Smith
- gets a starting caliber SF, a piece ready to compete with the team. Adds line up flexibility as they can have Mobley play the 5 and DFS at 4

Pg Garland/Levert/Rubio
Sg Mitchell/Strus/Bates
Sf DFS/Merill/Jerome
Pf Mobley/Niang
Ce Allen/Mobley/Jones

21 Sep 2023 19:06:47
For Boston, I'm not a fan of Hield, but I also don't like Brogdon on Boston. Hield's durability, expiring contract, and the young big makes it a yes for me.

21 Sep 2023 22:32:30
Cleveland making out like bandits here.

21 Sep 2023 22:39:18
Absolute yes from Cleveland.

19 Sep 2023 20:02:27
Cavs - ingram, valanciunas, trent jr, 1st from raps, swap from raps

Garland
Strus
Ingram
Mobley
Valanciunas

Pels- anunoby, allen, okoro, 1st from raps

Cj
Anunoby
Murphy
Zion
Allen

Raps- mitchell

Dennis
Mitchell
Barnes
Siakam
Poeltl

20 Sep 2023 06:39:58
Cavs giving up too much. Mitchell is better than Ingram, Allen is better than Valanciunas.

Great trades for Raptors and Pelicans.

21 Sep 2023 01:29:37
I’d rather have Ingram over OG.

18 Sep 2023 07:10:28
My dream Cavs re-tool

Trade #1:
Cleveland gets: Scoot Henderson, Anfernee Simons & Jusuf Nurkic
Portland gets: Darius Garland & Jarrett Allen

Why?
Cleveland chooses to go into a different direction. As of now, their ceiling is second round, which is not enough. Scoot is a great fit next to Mitchell. Simons would be a great bench piece & Nurkic is added to match salary, but he could contribute as well.
Portland goes for players who are proven & young as well. They then have the ability to trade Lillard for players that fit next to Garland & Allen.

Trade #2:
Cleveland gets: Brandon Miller & Mark Williams
Charlotte gets: Evan Mobley & Ricky Rubio

Why?
Cleveland mixes it up to try & have a higher ceiling by going for younger players with high upside. Miller has star potential & Williams has a high ceiling himself.
Charlotte gets one of the best young players in the NBA, a good fit next to LaMelo.

In these scenarios, the Cavs do this to build around Mitchell. He's the future of this team, the best player on the roster & the only one who is close to being a superstar. If you put together a winning team next to him, he'll likely stay. Besides, the Cavs can offer him much more money compared to other teams.

Coaching change
Cavaliers fire J. B. Bickerstaff in favor of an assistant coach who is highly regarded in Charles Lee. J. B. Bickerstaff is not very well liked amongst Cavs fans thanks to some questionable decisions & poor adjustments.

Sign Wenyel Gabriel

New Cavaliers line-up:
PG: Scoot Henderson / Ty Jerome
SG: Donovan Mitchell / Anfernee Simons / Max Strus
SF: Brandon Miller / Caris LeVert / Isaac Okoro
PF: Wenyel Gabriel / Georges Niang / Dean Wade
C: Mark Williams / Jusuf Nurkic / Damian Jones
Coach: Charles Lee.

18 Sep 2023 08:31:33
Apologies for the spam. I had to modify my trades, didn't realize they would all be posted.

18 Sep 2023 07:01:43
Cleveland gets: Scoot Henderson, Brandon Miller, Mark Williams, Anfernee Simons, James Bouknight, 4 2nds from Charlotte & 2 2nds from Portland
Hornets receive: Evan Mobley & Jusuf Nurkic
Portland receives: Darius Garland & Jarrett Allen

Why?
The Cavs need to do some moves if they want to get out of purgatory. I really doubt we're more than a second-round exit, if we're lucky. These moves are made with the future in mind. Each team gets something good. Portland proceeds to trade Lillard for pieces that fit next to Garland & Allen. Cavs also save some money.
Charlotte swaps Miller & Williams for one of the best defensive bigs in the league with tons of upside offensively as well.
Portland builds around Garland & Allen.

New Cleveland line-up

PG: Scoot Henderson / Ty Jerome / Ricky Rubio
SG: Donovan Mitchell / Anfernee Simons / James Bouknight / Sam Merrill
SF: Brandon Miller / Max Strus / Caris LeVert / Isaac Okoro
PF: Georges Niang / Dean Wade
C: Mark Williams / Damian Jones
Coach: J. B. Bickerstaff.

18 Sep 2023 08:49:52
Why would Portland trade Henderson for another pointguard?

I do like a Mobley for Miller swap.

18 Sep 2023 06:52:52
Cleveland gets: Mark Williams, Gary Harris, Chuma Okeke & '25 top 10 protected first from Charlotte, '24 & '25 seconds from Orlando
Orlando gets: Terry Rozier, Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade & Kai Jones
Charlotte gets: Jarrett Allen & Markelle Fultz

Why?
Cleveland sacrifices Allen to get Williams, who I think has a very high ceiling, & they also get depth with Harris & Okeke. They also get a protected first.
Orlando gets a 21 PPG scorer in Rozier & some other niece pieces.
Charlotte gets an all-star caliber big that fits well next to LaMelo, Brandon Miller & get a quality back-up guard in Fultz.

17 Sep 2023 22:37:37
Cleveland gets: Scoot Henderson, Brandon Miller, Mark Williams, Anfernee Simons, James Bouknight, 4 2nds from Charlotte & 2 2nds from Portland
Hornets receive: Evan Mobley & Jusuf Nurkic
Portland receives: Darius Garland & Jarrett Allen

Why?
The Cavs need to do some moves if they want to get out of purgatory. I really doubt we're more than a second-round exit, if we're lucky. These moves are made with the future in mind. Each team gets something good. Portland proceeds to trade Lillard for pieces that fit next to Garland & Allen. Cavs also save some money.
Charlotte swaps Miller & Williams for one of the best defensive bigs in the league with tons of upside offensively as well.
Portland builds around Garland & Allen.

18 Sep 2023 01:46:18
Then with that move you are in the first round exit purgatory at best.

18 Sep 2023 02:10:38
The new team has a much higher ceiling than our current one. Need a coaching change as well though.

18 Sep 2023 03:53:17
why isn't Cleveland, I mean you, building around Allen and Garland?

17 Sep 2023 09:22:42
Celtics: Garland+ J Allen
Cavs: J Brown+M Brogdon

17 Sep 2023 11:38:38
Brown can't be traded for about 11 months.

18 Sep 2023 09:26:11
i think he can be traded from januari 21.

19 Sep 2023 19:01:34
@gasupo Brown is ineligible to be traded until July 26, 2024.

16 Sep 2023 19:19:19
@JJ_Pr. You wanted a counter offer, this would be it.

Cleveland: Fultz, Harris, Okeke, 2025 1st (Den) and 2026 1st (Orl)

Orlando: Donovan Mitchell

Mitchell is the only player I would want (realistically) from Cleveland. Easily would give these 3 young guys and a couple 1st Rd picks.

I know you will say hell no though

17 Sep 2023 17:57:03
Magic would need to give up Suggs or Wagner imo for a superstar. This isn’t anywhere close.

Could’ve at the bare minimum at least included Black and/ or Jett.

17 Sep 2023 18:06:41
Thanks for the counter, but Mitchell is the most untouchable player in our roster.

18 Sep 2023 03:47:22
@JJ like I said, you would say hell no. You can't offer us trash for solid role players though. At least with my counter you get good pieces to work with.

13 Sep 2023 20:50:43
Cleveland gets: Gary Harris & Chuma Okeke
Orlando gets: Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade, Ricky Rubio & 2 2nd rounders

Why?
Cleveland upgrades their bench & gamble on Okeke's upside.
Orlando gets a recent top 5 pick & a big who can shoot.

14 Sep 2023 02:46:25
@JJ Orlando (and myself lol) have no interest in any of these pieces Cleveland (you) is offering. Okoro hasn't shown much, Wade isn't more than an end of the bench depth piece, Rubio is hurt and won't play, and Orlando hates 2nd Rd picks.

14 Sep 2023 03:05:09
Fair enough. Could you do a counter that involves sending Harris & Okeke to Cleveland?

14 Sep 2023 06:42:10
Counter:

Cleveland gets: Gary Harris & Chuma Okeke
Orlando gets: Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade, Ricky Rubio, draft rights of Luke Travers & Khalifa Diop, '24 unprotected pick swap, '30 unprotected pick swap & 5 2nd rounders.

That's the most I'd be willing to give up.

14 Sep 2023 11:49:39
What's going on here? Harris and Okeke combined are worth about 1 decent 2nd round pick.

14 Sep 2023 16:04:14
@nightcap Danny Ainge trying to convert trash into a fine wine.

15 Sep 2023 04:43:57
@JJ not a single piece offered would be accepted by Orlando. Harris did very well for us last year. Okeke has high upside if he can stay healthy. Not a single player offered fit Orlando better than what we give up.

12 Sep 2023 07:00:46
Cleveland gets: Gary Harris & Cole Anthony
Orlando gets: Isaac Okoro, Dean Wade, Ricky Rubio & 2 seconds

Why?
Cleveland upgrades their bench.
Orlando adds a defensive specialist & a big that can stretch the floor.

13 Sep 2023 14:02:55
Orlando passes easily. Harris contributed a lot last year and Anthony is worth more than this by himself.

13 Sep 2023 15:15:24
@ShaqIsBack would you do it if it was Okeke instead of Anthony?

14 Sep 2023 02:44:21
@JJ. No interest in this at all. Wouldn't do it even if it was for Harris by himself.

11 Sep 2023 15:32:11
Cavs - Raptors - Blazers

Cavs get OG Anunoby & Chris Boucher

Garland
Mitchell
Anunoby
Boucher
Mobley

Raptors get Damian Lillard & Jusuf Nurkic

Lillard
Dick
Barnes
Siakam
Poeltl

Blazers get Jarrett Allen, Gary Trent Jr, Thad Young, Isaac Okoro, 3 1sts from Toronto & 2 pick swaps via Toronto/Cavs

Henderson
Sharpe
Thybulle
Grant
Allen

12 Sep 2023 10:27:18
i lik that anunoby swap for Cleveland

Lillard is a great player, switch teams with Curry and he would have been a champion, but i can't see Toronto giving up 3 picks and two swaps for an aging player, who had some injuries and is who's on a massive contract.

10 Sep 2023 03:03:11
Cleveland gets: Scoot Henderson, Shaedon Sharpe & Anfernee Simons
Portland gets: Donovan Mitchell & Ricky Rubio

Why?
Cleveland makes sure they get something for Mitchell, a nice package for them.
Portland goes for a star player to pair next to Lillard.

10 Sep 2023 04:58:26
Mitchell is very good. But there’s no way I’d give up this much for him. Mostly because he’s a small guard. But also, it’s just a lot for him.

10 Sep 2023 11:31:18
No way I consider that if I'm Portland.

10 Sep 2023 13:47:55
This seems like reliving the Lillard-McCollum days.

05 Sep 2023 09:27:46
Cleveland gets: Andrew Wiggins
Golden State gets: Isaac Okoro & Ricky Rubio
Indiana gets: Dean Wade & 2 2nds

Why?
Cleveland gets their starting 3.
Golden State dumps Wiggins contract & huge savings down the line, both are expiring.
Indiana adds a role player on a valuable contract for free.

With Golden State having an astronomical salary cap sheet, they have to be good or else, it isn't worth it to pay the insane amount of tax they currently boast. The new CBA makes it even more complicated for them.

05 Sep 2023 14:49:19
i don't think GS is ready to dump Wiggins and they can always get a first for him.

05 Sep 2023 17:17:23
Wiggins' value is way more than a salary dump. Lmao.

05 Sep 2023 19:18:37
@honeycutt, I know that, but the Warriors are in salary cap hell. They don't have any leverage, even had to attach a first to dump a valuable player in Jordan Poole. Nobody is giving the Warriors anything of value aside from expiring's.

05 Sep 2023 20:00:11
JJ you do realize that Wiggins' was a vital part of their championship run. Warriors wont waste Curry's remaining time for this.

06 Sep 2023 14:35:29
If GS was worried about salary cap, they would have not resigned Draymond Green. Kings would offer way more than that for Wiggins.

04 Sep 2023 20:40:13
Chi - Cle - Tor

Chi- Pascal Siakam, Gary Trent Jr & 1st rd pick swap with Toronto

Dosunmu-White-Carter
Trent Jr-Caruso
Derozan-Terry
Siakam-Craig
Vucevic-Drummond

Cle- Pat Williams & Flynn

Garland-Flynn
Mitchell-Levert
Strus-Niang
Mobley-Williams
Allen-Wade

Tor- Zach Lavine, Isaac Okoro & 2nd rd picks from Chicago

Barnes-Schroder
Lavine-Dick
McDaniels-Okoro-Porter
Anunoby-Boucher-Young
Poeltl-Achiuwa-Koloko

05 Sep 2023 19:18:59
I'd do this for Cleveland.

04 Sep 2023 19:23:16
Cleveland gets: Collin Sexton & Ochai Agbaji
Utah gets: Dean Wade, Isaac Okoro & Ricky Rubio

Why?
Cleveland adds a back-up for Garland & a potential starter at the 3.
Utah dumps Sexton & his contract while getting some decent role players in Okoro & Wade.

04 Sep 2023 21:36:45
Not remotely close for Utah.

03 Sep 2023 18:35:41
Philly - LA Clippers - Cleveland

Philly get Mitchell & Covington

Maxey
Mitchell
Covington
Harris
Embiid

LA Clippers get Harden, Tucker, Okoro, Rubio (waive) & 1st from Philly

Westbrook
Harden
Leonard
Tucker
Zubac

Cleveland get George & Powell

Garland
Strus
George
Mobley
Allen

04 Sep 2023 01:10:56
Mitchell + garbage gets PG13 + Powell? Easy pass by Clippers.

04 Sep 2023 04:13:15
@Fredman are you serious? You think 33-year-old Paul George has more value than Donovan Mitchell? Not to mention George is a walking injury. This is terrible for Cleveland.