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15 Oct 2019 12:49:55
Pacers get Gallinari, Nader, Burton, Denver 2020 first
***Sabonis and Gallo could be a really nice tandem down low. Additionally, Gallo provides spacing needed for Oladipo as he comes back from injury. Playoff Push will be real as I see the Pacers as a team that could go deep in the East.

Thunder get Warren, McDermott, Sabonis
***Bring Sabonis back! He fits the timeline and team needs. Also, they get much needed wing help. And they don't really need the Denver pick.

15 Oct 2019 13:11:46
Bring Oladipo back too, stop living in the past. Move on.

15 Oct 2019 13:17:07
Why would it matter if sabonis and gallo would work?

15 Oct 2019 15:50:28
"Sabonis and Gallo would work great together! " as you trade one for the other.

15 Oct 2019 16:31:58
I meant turner and Gallo. Jeez.

15 Oct 2019 08:36:01
NOLA/DET/IND

NOLA get Domantas Sabonis, Jeremy Lamb & Doug McDermott
- I think Sabonis is a good fit with Zion, young and can stretch the floor and improve more

Pg Ball/Moore
Sg Holiday/Reddick/Alexander
Sf Ingram/Lamb/McDermott
Pf Zion/Melli
Ce Sabonis/Okafor/Hayes

DET get TJ Warren & Derrick Favors (exp) + 1st round pick from IND + 2nd round pick NOLA & IND

Pg Rose/Jackson/Galloway
Sg Kennard/Johnson/Brown
Sf Warren/Snell
Pf Morris/Maker
Ce Drummond/Favors/Wood

IND get Blake Griffin & Josh Hart

Pg Brogdon/McConnell/Holiday
Sg Oladipo/Hart
Sf Holiday/Johnson
Pf Griffin/Leaf
Ce Turner/Bitadze

15 Oct 2019 12:53:59
I like this for Indy.

14 Oct 2019 09:34:58
Bucks - Clippers - Thunder

Bucks gets:
Paul

Clippers gets:
Bledsoe
Ilyasova (expiring)
Nader

Thunder gets:
Harkless (expiring)
Hill
McGruder
Robinson
2020 1st Clippers (Lottery protected)
2021 2nd Pacers (via Bucks)

14 Oct 2019 15:14:56
Clippers pass.

25 Sep 2019 10:58:51
The Hawks get Myles Turner

Trae Young
Kevin Huerter
Evan Turner
John Collins
Myles Turner

The Pacers get Aaron Gordon & 1st round pick Hawks

Malcolm Brogdon
Victor Oladipo
TJ Warren
Aaron Gordon
Domantas Sabonis

The Magic get Cam Reddish, Allen Crabbe & 2nd round pick Pacers

DJ Augustin
Evan Fournier
Jonathan Isaac
Al Farouq Aminu
Nikola Vucevic

25 Sep 2019 13:16:53
Maybe without the picks for Indy
Or we could the trade without Orlando and develop Reddish.

25 Sep 2019 13:25:01
I’d pass on that as Orlando. Reddish is a lottery ticket at best. There’s a decent chance, he’s out of the league soon.

25 Sep 2019 13:50:43
The 10th pick in the draft that’s never played a game has a “decent chance” to be out of the league soon? That’s completely ridiculous.

25 Sep 2019 14:18:12
Reddish was drafted based on workouts in a down draft. He has upside and maybe that’s extreme to say he’ll be out of the league, but he gives me Marquese Chriss vibes. He gets labeled a shooter, but can’t shoot. He can handle the ball, but he couldn’t get to the basket in college. He’s a great athlete, but he was among the worst finishers for his size. He was suppose to have some guard skills but he averaged more turnovers than assists. You can talk about fit or whatever and yeah, I’m the nba he’ll probably have more room inside, but he’s going to be even more entrenched into an off ball role and that was what he struggled to do in college. He just has no feel for the game.

25 Sep 2019 14:31:53
Also by soon I meant 3 to 5 years.

25 Sep 2019 19:34:46
Pacers would rather have Myles as their big. He can stretch the floor better and is an elite defender.

24 Sep 2019 13:37:40
Detroit doens`t expect to content but will try a playoff run. Hence they do not have the CAP to extent Drummond by MAX. Since I think Boston will go after Sabonis, since he has all the tools Boston is looking for and Boston can send good 1st picks to Indiana only Mavs have a real need on a classic center. At Mavs everybody, Porzingis, the team and Drummond itself can profit from each other!

Detroit:
- Ibaka
- Justin Jackson
- 1st pick Mavs

Toronto:
- Beal

Washington:
- Hardaway
- 3x st pick Toronto

Dallas:
- Drummond
- Thomas

Ibaka can help Detoit similar to Drummond but also strech the floor behind the arc! Justion Jackson can create his shoot on the wing.

Wizards will not get much better and Beal will look to win soon! He can try to follow Leonard, a risk but also a chance for him and Toronto.

Mavs get their force in the middle and a young 3&D that can growth behind Iguodala that Mavs get in another trade. The are out of picks for the next years but have the roster to build success!

Voila.

24 Sep 2019 15:08:09
Doubt that Toronto offers that much for Beal.

Also doubt Hardaway+JustinJackson+DistantFuturePick gets Drummond.

23 Sep 2019 11:29:34
Pacers - Thunder - Timberwolves

Pacers gets:
Gallinari (expiring)
Covington
Muscala (expiring)

Thunder gets:
Dieng
Sabonis (expiring)
2020 1st rd pick (lottery protected)

Timberwolves gets:
Warren
Lamb
McDermott


Pacers starting lineup:
Brogdon/Oladipo/Covington/Gallinari/Turner

23 Sep 2019 13:25:51
Minnesota passes. Diengs deal will be valuable as an expiring next season when their is a treasure trove of FAs to sign.

23 Sep 2019 13:57:50
i would like to see the combo Sabonis-Turnerthis season, before we trade Sabonis.

23 Sep 2019 14:09:45
Another reason it would help to write the IN/ OUT for each team would be so that you could tell which team is giving up a 1st round pick.

I assume it’s IND, and they say no. Using assets to clear cap space has less value to teams that aren’t free agent destinations. I doubt MIN trades Covington, who is KAT’s buddy, and critical to both their offense and defense. However, if they do, they will use that value for youth and picks, not to clean up their books.

23 Sep 2019 14:57:47
I meant, I assume it’s IND, and “MIN” says no.

23 Sep 2019 17:06:40
It’s from the Wolves.

23 Sep 2019 19:02:45
Then Minny definately says No.

19 Sep 2019 19:23:00
BOS-IND-ORL

BOS: M.Turner, A.Johnson

Walker/Edwards/Waters
Hayward/Langford
Tatum/Johnson
Williams/Theis/Ojeleye
Turner/Kanter/Poirier

IND: A.Gordon, W.Iwundu, 2nd round pick from ORL

Brogdon/Holiday
Oladipo/Lamb/Holiday
Warren/Iwundu/McDermott
Gordon/Leaf
Sabonis/Bitadze

ORL: J.Brown, M.Smart

Smart/Augustin/MCW
Fournier/Ross/Fultz
Brown/Frazier
Isaac/Aminu
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

19 Sep 2019 19:41:32
I like this. Indy separates their two bigs and gets a more versatile hybrid guy. Boston gets a starting caliber big. Orlando gets a much needed wing and clears space for Isaac/ Bamba/ Aminu.

19 Sep 2019 22:38:26
I think the draft pick should come from Boston, not Orlando.

20 Sep 2019 12:03:04
nice one.

19 Sep 2019 03:59:07
GUYS ACCORDING TO MY SOURCE BOSTON AND PACERS TALK ABOUT TURNER AND TATUM AND MEMPHIS PICK .

19 Sep 2019 08:05:19
Yeah, that’s not happening.

19 Sep 2019 09:02:05
Hahahaha if the Celtics wouldn't trade Tatum in a deal for AD, they would never trade him for Turner, nevermind having to add the Memphis pick. Lol.

19 Sep 2019 11:33:01
Brown and pick for Turner, maybe.

19 Sep 2019 17:03:32
I guess indy calling boston and saying "tatum+pick for turner" with Boston saying "no way" qualifies as "talking".

20 Sep 2019 13:57:32
That the teams are talking is pretty likely.
Boston doesn't want to overpay players, so Turner would be the perfect target.

That the Pacers want Tatum also might be right.
At the end I see it more realistic that the Pacers get maybe Brown, Smart and the Memphis pick. Especially if Boston doesn't want to pay Brown about 25 million a year. So why not trade him.
A core of Tatum, Turner and Walker sounds really good.

16 Sep 2019 09:51:49
Should CP3 consider a buy out?

And what would be a fair offer for both CP3 and the Thunder?

I would offer a 38 million buy out.

CP3 can sign for the vet minimum with LA Lakers or even the LA clippers, the spurs, Indiana or Miami and explore the free agent market next year.

16 Sep 2019 10:17:41
He has 3 years left on the deal.

16 Sep 2019 11:15:08
120 mil or 38mil 🤣, read before u post. 80 mil would be the least and still I take the final 44 mil over a ring.

16 Sep 2019 11:56:27
can't a player agree a buyout when he has a three year contract?

16 Sep 2019 12:10:37
No owner is giving him 38 to leave. He is stuck.

16 Sep 2019 13:34:27
I think the Thunder would be ecstatic if he took 38 mil. I don’t see any way he just gives away 80 million though. Why in the world would he? I think he’d want closer to 80-100, which seems unlikely from the Thunder.

As the president of the players union, it makes him even less likely to give much away, it doesn’t set a good example.

16 Sep 2019 20:18:23
The real problem is that buyouts do not remove the 3 years worth of salary from OKC'S salary cap. It essentially becomes dead cap space which could be spread over the next 9 years ($13 mil in dead cap space for the next nine years? Yikes! ) .

16 Sep 2019 21:14:48
It would be 7 years if they stretched his salary.

(Years x2) + 1

Right now he is owed $124 mil, ($39, $41, $44), so stretched it would be an $18 mil/ yr cap hit for a staggering 7 years.

As the president of the NBA Players Association, and a guy that got rid of the rule that prevented big paychecks to older players, I think it would set a bad example if he took a buy out and left money on the table. But even if he does, I would think OKC would prefer not to stretch him, and eat the cap hit over the next three years, when they are unlikely to be a contender anyway. In 4-7 years, who knows how much they’d need the extra cap space?

16 Sep 2019 22:35:51
Thanks for the correct Shrink. Wasnt able to do the proper research before posting. On average, rebuilding teams get a first round draft pick for using $18 mil of their cap space based on past salary dump deals. So stretching Paul comes at a cost of $120 mil (or whatever the buyout is) AND 7 first round picks. YIKES!

11 sep 2019 07:25:45
pacers - towns
wolves - turner mcdermott leaf a.holiday and 1/2 first(s)

brogdon/mcconnell
oladipo/lamb
warren/holiday
sabonis/johnson
towns/bitadze

teague/holiday
culver/okogie
wiggins/layman
covington/bell/leaf
turner/vonleh

12 Sep 2019 02:56:44
MIN has Towns locked in for five years. They can’t afford to deal him.

12 Sep 2019 16:12:27
Minny is tied to Towns and Wiggins as their two highest paid players for the next few years, can they afford the status quo?

13 Sep 2019 06:29:44
LOL! Linking Towns to Wiggins is bad enough, but the trade unlink them and trades Towns!

13 Sep 2019 15:20:38
Well, you have to give up assets on an already bad team to trade Wiggins. That doesn't feel successful short or long term. Find me a way to improve the team to be a solid playoff team while trading Wiggins and I'll buy into that as a possibility. I just don't see it.

By trading Towns, yes, you're admitting you're basically tanking. But isn't that better than wallowing in the mid-late lottery with a bunch of ok pieces around a second tier star?

13 Sep 2019 17:26:53
Bmiller- doing and their pg coming off books wolves can add next summer.

13 Sep 2019 18:13:33
Add what? What is Minny luring to play with Towns and Wiggins? Even if they have a full max amount open, they're not pulling Steph Curry or Harden to come and be their #1 option. Maybe they can get a guy like Aaron Gordon when his deal is up. They couldn't land Russell (who probably doesn't even cement them as a playoff team) .

I just think Minnesota's short term outlook isn't great. They're too old with too few assets and too many big contracts to be building, but they're not good enough to not build.

13 Sep 2019 19:30:41
Betcha ATL would give a treasure trove for KAT.

14 Sep 2019 03:16:36
MIN’s future is KAT. Finding a potential superstar is the hardest step towards relevance, and they have one in KAT.

I agree they need to add talent, but don’t think it’s coming from free agency. MIN is not a free agent destination, so using assets to clear Wiggins’ contract doesn’t necessarily mean they can replace that payroll with a star. They need to hold onto their young assets and picks, and hope that they can develop complimentary talent to KAT.

14 Sep 2019 03:25:45
BTW, if you think MIN is “too old, ” you need to check out MIN’s current roster.

This summer, Rosas got rid of Taj Gibson, Jerry’s Bayless, Anthony Tolliver, and Derek Rose. They still have Teague 30 (expires this season), Dieng 29 (expires next season), Napier 28 (expiring, they got him free), and they love the 28 year old Covington.

The entire rest of their roster is between the ages of 20-25. Rosas made an effort to focus on adding players that were Towns’ age. They are younger than most teams, but they are less talented and more shallow. Next season is not win-now, with questions on the bench throughout the line up.

14 Sep 2019 05:59:50
But KAT isn’t a superstar. He’s a secondary star. No way he can be the best player on a top 4 seed. You’re not looking for a compliment, you’re looking for a #1.

“Too old” was probably the wrong term. Too many guys on big contracts. Very few rookie contracts. And almost no assets.

06 Sep 2019 12:44:03
Celtics - Pacers - Thunder

Celtics gets:
Gallinari (exp)
Schroeder
Leaf
2020 1st rd pick (Nuggets)

Pacers gets:
Brown

Thunder gets:
Hayward
Sabonis

06 Sep 2019 16:01:08
Right now, I think Sabonis > J. Brown, so Indy should be getting more of a return than just Brown. And thst is not even counting that Brown costs $3 mil more than Sabonis.

05 Sep 2019 20:19:38
Indy and Minnesota

Timberwolves get: McDermott , Johnson, 2022 first

Pacers get : Covington

06 Sep 2019 14:52:38
And Minnesota does this why?

07 Sep 2019 10:39:08
Make room for Culver and get a future pick? Not sayong I think this is the best course (or offer), but it answers the qurstion.

07 Sep 2019 12:37:08
You’re probably better off bringing Wiggins off the bench, if you want to put Culver in the starting line up and you want Culver and Wiggins in closing lineups, Covington can play the 4.

22 Aug 2019 10:24:00
The Lakers get Ferguson, Noel, Muscala, Paul and 2 Indy 2nds.

The Thunder get Leaf, Mcdermott, Sumner, KCP, Bradley, Cousins(waive), and Daniels(waive)

Indiana gets Danny Green

22 Aug 2019 15:40:25
KCP vetoes.

22 Aug 2019 18:24:12
Okc isn’t giving up Ferguson here

22 Aug 2019 18:30:48
Who thinks KCP is going to sign off playing in OKC?

23 Aug 2019 00:06:37
Fredman he has a choice? I thought that was last contract.

23 Aug 2019 17:55:15
Spotrac.com shows him having a no-trade clause. Also


Keith Smith

✔@KeithSmithNBA

I can confirm that KCP has a player option for 2020-21. This gives him another de facto no-trade clause.

Yahoo Sports Lakers beat writer.

21 Aug 2019 08:15:01
The Pelicans get Myles Turner

The Pacers get Brandon Ingram, Etwann Moore, Jaxson Hayes & 1st round pick

21 Aug 2019 17:08:13
I’d do it if I was the Pacers. Ingram could start to become a star on Indiana while Dipo recovers and would provide a great 1-2-3 punch alongside Brogdon. Lineup could create problems

Brogdon
Oladipo
Ingram
Warren
Sabonis.

21 Aug 2019 19:39:26
Myles Turner worth 3 lottery pick talents?

17 Aug 2019 01:11:24
WIZARDS-PACERS

WAS: Sabonis, Lamb, Warren & 2 1st round pick

Thomas-Smith-Wall
Lamb-Brown
Warren-Bonga
Hachimura-Wagner
Sabonis-Bryant

IND: Bradley Beal

Brogdon-McConnell-Holiday
Beal-Oladipo
Holiday-McDermott
Leaf-Johnson
Turner-Bitadze

17 Aug 2019 12:53:31
You don't trade 2 firsts for someone that forces oladipo to come off the bench.

14 Aug 2019 18:58:15
Cavs - Sabonis and McDermott

Pacers - Henson Osman and Porter Jr

- Cavs get a much needed promising young big

- Pacers get more wing firepower while Oladipo is out and another backup big until Bitadze is ready

Sexton/Delly
Garland/Clarkson
Windler/Mcdermott
Love/Nance
Sabonis/Thompson

Brogdon/Holiday
(Oladipo)/Lamb/Porter Jr
Osman/Holiday
Warren/Leaf
Turner/Henson/Bitadze

15 Aug 2019 17:11:31
Trying to figure out what from Cleveland comes within the same ballpark as the value of Sabonis. You overvaluing Osman that much? Or Porter?

09 Aug 2019 02:54:50
Pacers/Bulls

Pacers/ Markannen + LaVine

Brogdon/McConnel/Holiday
LaVine/Holiday
Warren/Lamb/McDermott
Markannen/Leaf
Turner/Bitadze

Bulls/ Oladipo + Sabonis

White/Dunn/Arci
Oladipo/Satoransky
Porter/Valentine/Hutchinson
Young/Sabonis
Carter/Felicio/Gafford

09 Aug 2019 04:11:36
Indy needs more.

01 Aug 2019 23:50:19
Paul +Denver's 2020 First to Indiana for

McDermott+TJ Warren+Lamb+TJ Leaf.

After the Dec 15 FA signing deadline passes.

Paul fills in as Oladipo recovers and becomes happier playing for a playoff team.

02 Aug 2019 09:48:33
CP3 to Indy isn't a bad fit and i like the idea.
But i don't want to give up good assets for him
And we have Brogdon for the pointguard spot.

What about this one:
Indy: CP3+SGA+ 1rnd pick Denver 2020 and 2rnd pick Hou 2022
OKC: Brogdon+ Lamb+Leaf.

02 Aug 2019 12:39:56
Feel Indy gave up too much to get Brogdon to trade him away. I think a Brogdon-Paul backcourt just might be best backcourt in the East. And Oladipo is on the way.

Left out the $10 mil in salary OKC saves this year to get well under the luxury tax.

31 Jul 2019 17:51:51
PACERS - PELICANS - MAGIC

IND: Gordon, Ingram, 1st round pick NOP (LAL)

Brogdon
Oladipo
Ingram
Gordon
Sabonis

NOP: Turner

Holiday
Reddick
Moore
Zion
Turner

ORL: Ball & Warren

Ball
Fournier
Warren
Isaac
Vucevic

31 Jul 2019 17:22:20
WAY big overpay by N. O. I agree that Turner would be a good fit on the Pels but not at that price. Ingram will be better in N. O. and they like what Ball can do as far as tempo and D. I'm not saying they aren't tradable but with Hayes on the roster it's an EXTREME overpay by the Pels. Maybe they should have traded the #8 pick to Indy for Turner on draft night.

01 Aug 2019 01:38:03
Not sure why NO is trading for Turner when they just used a lottery pick on a center.

22 Jul 2019 17:24:06
Knicks: Sabonis, Leaf, Lamb, 2 2nd’s Pacers

Pacers: Knox, Reddick, Hart

Pelicans: Mcdermott, Holiday, McConnell, 1st Pacers.

22 Jul 2019 17:42:14
Indy should try the combo Sabonis-Turner one more year.
It's a dangeroud duo, if both players improve a little in 3- point shooting.

22 Jul 2019 17:55:51
Cant see Pelicans trading Reddick's shooting. Plus, Sabonis about to enter RFA, so are you willing to pay him $20 mil to pair with Williamson long term? Just not seeing it.

 
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