New Orleans Pelicans Rumours

15 Oct 2019 23:41:50
OKC: G Hayward+ Langford

Boston: Gallinari+Bamba+Augustin

Orl:Schroder+1rnd pick Denver (top 20 protected)+ 1rnd pick Boston(top 20 protected)

15 Oct 2019 12:18:28
Blockbasters can be nice but simple trades are more simple .. :: (()) : )

Since Pelicans have an amazing young grid and a lot of 3&D Players and Alexander will fit well from the beginning Josh Hart will not see much minutes in the backcourt and is undersized on the wing.

Mavs need a 3&D guy (also i'm THJ improves his Defense) and have a lot of inside outside scoring forwards that can create their own shoot, what Pelicans would need probably more than 3&D, so they could offer the young talented Jackson and a 2nd as a sweetener.

Pelicans: Justin Jackson, 2nd
Mavs: Josh Hart

15 Oct 2019 13:12:50
Knicks still waiting thj improve on his defense.

15 Oct 2019 20:37:23
Nice job!

14 Oct 2019 10:44:41
ORL-PHX

ORL: Rubio, Saric, 1st round swap

Rubio/Fultz/Mcw
Fournier/Ross
Isaac/Iwundu/Okeke
Aminu/Saric
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

PHX: Gordon, Augustin

Augustin/Johnson/Carter
Booker/Johnson/Jerome
Oubre/Bridges
Gordon/Kaminsky
Ayton/Baynes

14 Oct 2019 15:08:14
Phoenix needs its draft picks.

15 Oct 2019 05:03:23
It’s true that PHX needs it’s draft picks, but since they aren’t a free agent destination, I wouldn’t mind seeing them use one on Aaron Gordon.

With less chance that a high level slot will get you a top pick, I wouldn’t mind converting future payroll into Gordon.

14 Oct 2019 08:05:40
Pelicans x Minnesota

Minnesota gets
Derrick favors, Josh hart, Darius miller and Etwaun moore
with
lakers 2021 first top 8 protected conveys unprotected in 2022
Lakers 2024 unprotected first
cleveland 2020 first (top 10 protected conveys 2021 and 2022 second rounders)
new orleans 2020 and 2022 unprotected firsts
3 second rounder from 2020 draft (washington, new orleans and milwaukee)
and washington 2022 second rounder

New orleans gets KAT and Gourgie dieng
Waive dieng, williams and jackson sign with crawford and melo

After the trade pelicans roster is the future

Kat, hayes, okafor
Zion, melli
Melo, İngram,
Holiday, reddick
Ball, crawford, walker

İ would invest 2024 first and second also if wolves do not accept the offer.

14 Oct 2019 09:28:40
Not bad. It feels like a lot, but that might be fairly close to what it would take.

14 Oct 2019 09:54:27
I would like this to happen.

That NO team would be awesome.

12 Oct 2019 00:42:20
TOR-ORL
TOR:
-Fournier
-Bamba
-2nd rounder
ORL:
-Ibaka

12 Oct 2019 08:04:48
ORL already done that and it was a mistake that will never happen again.

12 Oct 2019 23:44:29
Forget the other two pieces.
2nd rounder > ibaka.

09 Oct 2019 15:58:08
The Warriors get Ball, Favors, Hart, and the Pelicans' 20 1st lottery protected

The Pelicans get Russell.

09 Oct 2019 18:06:02
Why would Pelicans do that?

09 Oct 2019 18:22:40
Go out and get a 23 year old allstar pg that can shoot?

09 Oct 2019 22:24:00
All star replacement from the weak east, who can’t get to the basket or defend?

I think Russell has a lot to prove before anyone would pay that much. I think the Warriors really gambled on him, rather than lose Durant for nothing.

10 Oct 2019 01:01:34
He’s a subpar defender, but he isn’t awful and given his size and solid athleticism, you would think he’ll continue to get better. The not getting tot he rim is concerning, but he’s a legitimate shooter off the dribble, he can play on and off the ball, he’s a good passer, he’s shown the ability to hit difficult shots, he’s gotten better over time, he’s still only 23 and he’s shown the ability to be the guy on offense on a decent team. I get if you just don’t like him as a player, but that didn’t seem to me like a ridiculous package for him. Ball is a decent player with upside, but he’s a weird fit on that team. Favors seems like a stop gap for Hayes. Hart might be a 3 and d player at some point and if things don’t go well the first doesn’t convey.

10 Oct 2019 14:48:29
Not sure Russell is THAT much better than Ball. A first and 2 other players?

10 Oct 2019 16:26:29
Ball was the 4th best player in a bad team last year. Russell was the best player on a good team. Not to mention Ball hasn’t been able to stay healthy. Not to mention that he’s a guard that can’t shoot in a league where shooting is the most important skill on a team that doesn’t have a plus shooter in their starting line up.

11 Oct 2019 00:30:53
It is a stretch to say Russell was on a good team, at 42-40, playing the bulk of their games against the horrible East.

Also, keep in mind that even the Nets didn’t want to feature him initially. They were forced to after that horrible injury to LeVert, then Dinwiddie went down.

Finally, he did not get better every year. The season before he actually did a little worse. I am suspicious of a player who only succeeded when an entire team was built to help him succeed. He won’t be seeing any other team do that for the rest of his career.

06 Oct 2019 19:14:55
TOR-ORL
TOR:
-Vucevic
-Mo Bamba
ORL:
-Lowry
-2020 2nd

06 Oct 2019 19:47:53
Are you implying that Bamba is only worth a second rounder? Because Vooch and Lowry are both all-stars and essentially a wash. Why would Orlando want to leave itself with only a third string center?

06 Oct 2019 20:12:45
To TOR will have 4 centers and ORL not one? Smart. Bamba and Fultz opr something else for Lowry maybe. But I think TOR will give Lowry the contract to stay till he finish.

06 Oct 2019 20:35:42
FLhoopsFan, i was in a hurry, so yes, you could change it to a first and a second or three seconds.

The_one_and_only_ddrainr, no, not really.
TOR:
C:Gasol, Vucevic, Bamba
PF:Ibaka, Siakam, Boucher
SF:Anunoby, Johnson, RHJ
SG:Powell, Matt Thomas, McCaw
PG:Vanvleet, Payne, Isiah Taylor.

06 Oct 2019 22:02:54
Lowry is 34. You’re not getting Bamba or Vucevic for him. You’re looking at more like a 1st and maybe low end prospect with some expiring money. There aren’t many teams that are playoff contenders and need a pg and there are going to be atleast 2 pgs that are likely to be shopped.

02 Oct 2019 07:45:01
Det: A gordon+Wiggins

Minny: B Griffin

Orl: R Jackson+ T Snell+ 1rnd pick Minny 2020 and 2022 (lotetery protected)

27 Sep 2019 07:50:17
Nets: A gordon

Orl: Dinwidie+Temple+T Prince


Nets:
C:J Allen
PF:A Gordon
SF:J Harris
SG:Le Vert
PG Irving


Orl:
C: Vucevic/Bamba
PF:Isaac/aminu
SF:Ross/Prince
SG:Fournier/Temple
PG:Dinwidie/Fultz

27 Sep 2019 11:03:51
Prince is a Kyrie and KD friend so he is not going anywhere.

27 Sep 2019 12:14:17
KD, Durant and the Nets prefer titles over friendship
A Gordon is a good fit in that team.

Dinwidie is a great player, but they don't need him in Brooklyn and they can use him in Orlando, to lead that core and play defense.


this trade works for both teams.

27 Sep 2019 15:47:38
So as tbe GM or owner of the Nets, you want the teams reputation to be that they have no loyalty to their players. They only get players for their All-Star friends and then dump the player once their friends are signed to longterm deals. I think you have an "ends justify the means" petspective that makes it hard for the players to trust the FO. And we saw in the Lakers how that plays out.

27 Sep 2019 17:04:19
It's not like Price is the central piece to this trade. Swap him for a future protected first. Fixed.

25 Sep 2019 14:05:48
Orl: B Beal

was: Bamba+Isaac+Fultz+augustin+ 1rnd pick Orl 2020+ lottery protected 1rnd pick 2022

25 Sep 2019 20:00:29
As a wizards fan that would be great.

19 Sep 2019 19:23:00
BOS-IND-ORL

BOS: M.Turner, A.Johnson

Walker/Edwards/Waters
Hayward/Langford
Tatum/Johnson
Williams/Theis/Ojeleye
Turner/Kanter/Poirier

IND: A.Gordon, W.Iwundu, 2nd round pick from ORL

Brogdon/Holiday
Oladipo/Lamb/Holiday
Warren/Iwundu/McDermott
Gordon/Leaf
Sabonis/Bitadze

ORL: J.Brown, M.Smart

Smart/Augustin/MCW
Fournier/Ross/Fultz
Brown/Frazier
Isaac/Aminu
Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

19 Sep 2019 19:41:32
I like this. Indy separates their two bigs and gets a more versatile hybrid guy. Boston gets a starting caliber big. Orlando gets a much needed wing and clears space for Isaac/ Bamba/ Aminu.

19 Sep 2019 22:38:26
I think the draft pick should come from Boston, not Orlando.

20 Sep 2019 12:03:04
nice one.

07 Sep 2019 05:48:23
Magic/Kings

To Orl: Bogdanovic, Bjelica, Ferrell & 1st round pick

To Sac: Gordon

07 Sep 2019 10:15:18
I’m not really a fan of it for either team. Bagley and Gordon are really similar and I think this is a step back for Orlando. I think they’re more likely to be buyers than sellers with the exception of Vucevic depending on where Bamba is at.

07 Sep 2019 10:35:48
Gordon was one of the guys I was targetting with my other post, but Orlando's roster is kind of full so I don't know how they take on additional players.

04 Sep 2019 20:54:28
Cavs - Pelicans

Cavs gets:
Favors (expiring)
Moore (expiring)
2020 1st rd pick (get their own pick back)
2020 2nd rd pick (Wizards)
2020 2nd rd pick (Bucks)

Pelicans gets:
Love

04 Sep 2019 22:40:43
Love would be a great fit with NOLA but i think that’s too much for him at this point.

05 Sep 2019 00:20:56
I can’t see the Cavs doing that. They’ll already have more money than they can spend this summer and that pick is going to be two 2nds any way. It’s pretty clear that they won’t read Love without getting assets back.

05 Sep 2019 00:37:32
Actually, I think that its a fair price. It wasnt like that 1st rounder was conveying so basically its Love for 4 seconds and expiring deals.

05 Sep 2019 07:47:25
Favors >>> Love.

05 Sep 2019 12:42:33
Shizzee, Love is a better scorer, shooter, passer and rebounder than Favors. Also, here is a fun stat for you, 2 of the last 3 years, Love has posted a better defensive real plus minus than Favors on significantly worse teams.

Also, in a year where Love was injured, then never really was given a chance to get back in rhythm, and played most of his minutes without anyone on the floor that could get him the ball consistently, his per 36 numbers were 23 14 and 3.

05 Sep 2019 15:54:51
Saying Favors is better than Love is either admitting your complete bias or your complete lack of knowledge about basketball.

05 Sep 2019 19:07:02
Rkenne, I have no respect for player who plays possum on bad teams. Who he is better than depends what his record is.

05 Sep 2019 21:05:10
Was that true when he was on a horrible Minny team and was considered a top 10 player in the league? Or are you making that up shizzee?

06 Sep 2019 11:48:45
Love was the 3rd best player on a championship team. Favors has been the 4th or 5th best player on a 1st or second round out.

06 Sep 2019 12:52:55
Kevin avg 59 games in 11yrs. Only when he was final yr of contract, winning team, and rookie yr he played 70 or more games. That is pathetic without any major injury.

29 Aug 2019 20:15:16
Devin Booker trade (s) :

Pelicans trade: Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Derrick Favors, Brandon Ingram, and 2 future 1st Round Picks

Suns trade: Devin Booker

Pelicans Lineup:

PG: Lonzo Ball
SG: Jrue Holiday
SF: Devin Booker
PF: Zion Williamson
C: Jaxson Hayes

Bench:

Josh Hart
JJ Redick
Jahlil Okafor
Darius Miller
Frank Jackson
E’Twaun Moore

Hawks trade: Bruno Fernando, Cam Reddish, Alex Len, and a 2020 1st Round Pick

Suns trade: Devin Booker

Hawks Lineup:

PG: Trae Young
SG: Devin Booker
SF: De’Andre Hunter
PF: John Collins
C: Some free agent or draft pick or Damian Jones

Bench:
Kevin Huerter
DeAndre Bembry
Jabari Parker

Also, wrote an article about it - Free Devin Booker.


Thoughts?

29 Aug 2019 20:28:49
Big no on hawks trade.

30 Aug 2019 01:27:29
Big no on both trades.

30 Aug 2019 03:09:17
Without question a Phoenix fan. Maybe a relative of Booker. No way for either trade.

30 Aug 2019 11:58:12
If you want an idea what kind of trade package Booker can get, look at what the Kings got for Boogie Cousins. 1 young lottry talent, 1 lottery pick and expiring salary filler. So the Hawks deal is about right, but I think they eould rather go with Reddish and Huerter than Booker.

30 Aug 2019 13:35:59
Suns will only trade their self-anointed "face of the franchise" in one of those deals that overwhelms them. These deals don't approach that level so, PHX wouldn't have any interest. Oh and Alex Len back to a place he loathes and where he underachieved for 4 years? Don't think so.

30 Aug 2019 15:06:28
Booker is in a weird place where he and Phoenix think he's got a future as a superstar, but I'm not sure anyone outside of Arizona thinks so. I think Booker is a lot closer to CJ McCollum than a superstar.

He'll have to accept a role as a second star if he ever wants to win, and if Phoenix wants to move him will have to accept that's his value.

30 Aug 2019 22:35:01
Booker=Utah's version of Gordon Hayward.

31 Aug 2019 13:49:53
Bmiller66,that is true about Booker. He's good not great (like McCallum) and his value to the Suns is nearly as much a management/ marketing one as it is an on court one and, that is unfortunate. He got his huge contract and is placated by these latest round of staff changes the Suns have made but unless they get a lot better this coming year (and his play is a big part of that), he will start making serious noise about getting moved. Still, the way PHX views Booker, they would resist any overtures to move him unless it was for a package well above what the market may say he is worth.

31 Aug 2019 18:33:23
Plus, didn't Phoenix just get approved gor a new stadium? They are going to need talent to move i to that new arena.

01 Sep 2019 13:42:38
Almost. Not a new arena, mostly public money to refurb the existing place which, of course, sits really well with the voters of PHX. One of the many reasons why the Suns have this deluded idea of "face of the franchise" stuff, a likable guy who they can build up to the fan base who is a "pillar in the community".

29 Aug 2019 13:28:31
ORL/TOR/POR

ORL get Kyle Lowry
They get Lowry to become a court leader for this young developing team

Pg Lowry/Augustin/MCW
Sg Ross/Iwundu
Sf Isaac/Frazier/Okeke
Pf Gordon/Aminu
Ce Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

TOR get Kent Bazemore (exp), Gary Trent Jr, Markelle Fultz, 1st round pick from ORL & 2nd round pick from POR
If they are going nowhere it will be wise to rebuild. They already have a ring so it's time to develop a young team and get assets. Could also offer Gasol to POR for Whiteside and a 1st if they want.

Pg Vanvleet/Fultz
Sg OG/Powell/Trent
Sf RHJ/Johnson
Pf Siakam/Ibaka
Ce Gasol

POR get Evan Fournier
I think Fournier could provide better help for POR than Bazemore. They could take the offer of Gasol for Whiteside and a 1st or could use those assets for a bigger move (Griffin, Gordon, Love, etc)

Pg Lillard/Simons
Sg McCollum/Hood
Sf Fournier/Little/Hezonja
Pf Collins/Tolliver/Skal
Ce Whiteside/Nurkic/Gasol

30 Aug 2019 03:44:02
hell no.

26 Aug 2019 08:33:48
Sac: Bamba

Orl: Y Ferrel+ 1rnd pick Kings

26 Aug 2019 10:34:17
Not giving up an unprotected 1st for Bamba. Will do 2020 lottery protected and if not conveyed, Orlando gets two 2nd round picks (1 2020 and 1 2021)

26 Aug 2019 10:41:10
Fredman, I think you’re underselling Bamba. Last year was always going to be more of a development year, while he gets stronger and works on his skill set on offense. He has a chance to be really good.

26 Aug 2019 11:22:00
Fully understand. Just not sure how Bamba gets minutes behind Dedmond when the Kings are also trying to develop Giles and Bagley. Just not willing to give up a lottery pick for a guy who the Kings probably can not fully invest in at this moment.

If Orlando can get a better offer, they should probably take it. Not sure who has a backup PG in need of a backup center to develop? New Orleans (Ball for Bamba)?

26 Aug 2019 12:05:28
i agree, the pick could be top 5 protected, but i don't think it's necessary. That Kings team would make the playoffs

*let them sign J Lin

C: Bamba/ Dedmon
Pf:Bagley/ Giles
SF:Barnes/ Ariza
SG:Hield/ Bogdanovic
PG:Fox/ J Lin

Fox is going to be an all star, Bamba 's in the running for MIP and that's a deep bench Bagley will improve and Both Hield and Barnes can pull up all star numbers.

21 Aug 2019 08:15:01
The Pelicans get Myles Turner

The Pacers get Brandon Ingram, Etwann Moore, Jaxson Hayes & 1st round pick

21 Aug 2019 17:08:13
I’d do it if I was the Pacers. Ingram could start to become a star on Indiana while Dipo recovers and would provide a great 1-2-3 punch alongside Brogdon. Lineup could create problems

Brogdon
Oladipo
Ingram
Warren
Sabonis.

21 Aug 2019 19:39:26
Myles Turner worth 3 lottery pick talents?

10 Aug 2019 14:07:16
ORL GSW 2 different trades for Russell to Magic after Dec 15 if Fultz isn't the starter they r hoping he is, and Russell isn't workimg well for GSW. Which trade happens depends on how the Magic are doing.

Trade 1 if Magic aren't playing well and want to take the younger better for the future route

ORL get Russell
GSW get Vucevic

Picks added wherever if needed but seems fair to me as a player swap with nothing else involved. ORL get Russell to be their PG of the future and they go with Bamba over Vucevic. GSW get the C position locked up for multiple years with an all star C to pair with Curry, Thompson, and Green for the next few years.

Trade 2 if Orl is in the playoff race and again Fultz isn't the starter they hope he will be and Russells not working well with GSW.

ORL get Russell
GSW get Bamba, Augustin, Fournier, and a 1st

Again ORL get their starting PG which helps with the playoff push. GSW help their depth which Good depth would have been huge this past post season. They get Bamba to come off the bench this year then start next year when WCS expires. And they get a 1st out of it. Salary works they can use some of the Iguadal trade exception if needed.

Let me know what yall think do tgese trades work for both sides let me know.

10 Aug 2019 22:25:41
Trade 2 only.

10 Aug 2019 22:29:03
Russell Paschall for Gordon Fultz.

09 Aug 2019 17:25:09
The Magic get Robert Covington & Jeff Teague

They are on a contending mode and one of their weaker spots is the point guard position. There aren't much available point guard at this point and bringing in Teague will help and along with a healthy Covington who plays 3 and D, this team would be better

Jeff Teague/Carter-Williams/Fultz
Evan Fournier/Ross
Robert Covington/Okeke/Frazier
Jonathan Isaac/Aminu
Nikola Vucevic/Bamba/Birch

The Timberwolves get Aaron Gordon & Lonzo Ball

Meanwhile, this Wolves squad is going younger with Towns as their primary player. Adding Gordon and Lonzo would be good as they will grow together for their future

Lonzo Ball/Napier
Jarrett Culver/Okogie
Andrew Wiggins/Layman/Graham
Aaron Gordon/Vonleh
Karl Towns/Dieng/Bell

The Pelicans get DJ Augustin, Wes Iwundu & 2nd round pick from Wolves

With the signing of JJ Reddick, it looks like he and Holiday would be the starting guards, Lonzo would be on their bench and for him to develop his game, he needs to start on a young team (perfect for Wolves), Pelicans gave him up and acquire a true back up point guard who is a veteran too. They also add a young wing on the process

Jrue Holiday/Augustin/Jackson
JJ Reddick/Hart/Alexander-Walker
Brandon Ingram/Iwundu/Miller
Zion Williamson/Melli
Derrick Favors/Okafor/Hayes

What do you think? Is this trade reasonable for all teams involve or is there a change for a better deal? Thank you.

09 Aug 2019 17:12:14
I think the Pelicans would need significantly more to give up Ball.

10 Aug 2019 00:14:50
Covington best player in trade.

09 Aug 2019 02:45:00
Pelicans/Thunder/Bulls

Pelicans/ Markannen + Gallinari + Dunn

They acquire 2 players that will fit perfectly with Zion Williamson. The 3 point shooting is on with this starting line up

Holiday/Ball/Dunn
Reddick/Hart/Alexander
Gallinari/Miller
Williamson/Melli
Markannen/Hayes/Okafor

Thunder/ Moore + Felicio + Valentine + Dunn + 2nd from Bulls & Pelicans

Paul/Schroeder
Gilgeous/Moore/Diallo
Ferguson/Roberson/Valentine
Bazley/Muscala
Adams/Noel/Felicio

Bulls/ Ingram + Favors + Burton + 1st from Pelicans

White/Dunn/Arcidiacono
LaVine/Satoransky/Burton
Ingram/Valentine/Hutchinson
Porter Jr/Young
Carter/Favors/Gafford

09 Aug 2019 04:14:45
Seriously doubt Markensseen gives Chicago that kind of haul.

And which team is getting Dunn? NO or OKC?

09 Aug 2019 05:05:05
Think Dunn is going to the Pelicans with roster list. However, the money could work better if he goes to the Thunder.