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21 Jun 2018 20:31:57
MIL - CHA

Walker, Batum for Bledsoe, Snell, Zeller

For Charlotte it's now or never to unload Batum attached to Walker. Here they get two more than servicable players and the brother Zeller.

The Bucks need to be desperate for a big move to take on Batum's contract and Walker commited to long term deal to pull the trigger. With Parker resigning and such a trade MIL go over the tax. Maybe this is why they are reported to try to unload Dellavedova with the 17th.

milpso

1.) 21 Jun 2018 20:55:43
Seems like a fair trade!, Now if the Bucks can find a Big Man for the middle?


2.) 21 Jun 2018 21:23:23
The Hornets would need some kind of young talent or picks. They're going full rebuild. Bledsoe is basically just annexpiring to them.


3.) 21 Jun 2018 21:40:48
Hornets with 5 centers. I get the batum dump, but it seems there would be better deals to avoid the center glut. Unite the zellers!


4.) 21 Jun 2018 21:52:52
They can't ask for talents and picks and unload Batum.


5.) 21 Jun 2018 22:48:09
Yeah, Charlotte doesn't want "servicable players", they want youth or picks. Unloading Batum is great, but they'd want a first as well.


 

 

20 Jun 2018 22:42:11
MIL - ATL - CHA

MIL gets Walker
ATL gets Bledsoe, Wilson, Brown
CHA gets Schroeder, 17th, 19th

Bucks obviously get the best player and upgrade a ton at pg

Hawks switch similar pgs, but take one in a shorter deal. Atlanta might need anyway to attach the 19th to unload Schroeder, here they get also Wilson (for some reason they like him since last year) and Brown to add competition with Dorsey

Hornets made it clear that they will rebuild for the next two years with the Mozgov deal. They have to pull the trigger now for Kemba. If they can't succeed in dealing him with Batum, this package might be the best they can have

milpso

1.) 20 Jun 2018 23:42:40
That's not enough for Kemba and there is no way that the Hornets take on salary in the deal.


2.) 21 Jun 2018 02:31:44
@milpso, I don't believe The Bucks are going to give up 3 players plus their only pick in the draft for Walker. Yes, walker would be an upgrade, Just not worth 3 players and the 17th pick to get him. Schroeder wants to come to Milwaukee, As does Dedmon from Atlanta. The Bucks would be better off just trading head up with Atlanta, and not include The Hornets.


 

 

19 Jun 2018 22:31:33
WAS gets Parker (45mil, 3y, PO)
MIL get Oubre, 15th, Smith (if he opts in)

Wizards lock a fourth starter with long term deal in a friendly price considering the other deals they already have. They still have to upgrade somehow at C.

Wall/44th
Beal/Satoransky
Porter/Meeks
Parker/Morris
Gortat/Mahinmi

Bucks already have Brogdon, Brown, Maker, they add Oubre, draft Lonnie Walker and Mitchell Robinson. It's an exciting core for Bud to work with and develop some possible future starters. They will also need an upgrade at C. They could force a trade using some of Bledsoe, Snell, Henson, Delly or use the full MLE for Dedmon.

Bledsoe/Brogdon/Delly
Snell/Walker/Brown
Middleton/Oubre
Giannis/Maker/Smith
Henson/Robinson

milpso

1.) 20 Jun 2018 04:05:03
Don’t like giving that’s much up for Parker with his injury history.


2.) 20 Jun 2018 21:32:42
You realize the draft is tomorrow, right?


 

 

17 Jun 2018 11:23:38
LAL - SAS - MIL

This is based on Spurs not taking Deng's contract or Ball, so Lakers need a third team to make Leonard, George, James happen. Milwaukee can be that team, because of Lebron's buddy Bledsoe.

Lakers get Leonard, Bledsoe

Spurs get Ingram, Kuzma, 25th LAL, Dellavedova (or Henson)

Bucks get Ball, Deng, 47th LAL

Lakers will be at 101 mil after that having Bledsoe, Leonard, George (29mil), James (34mil), Zubac, Hart. So they do it.

Spurs assuming that LAL's best offer would be Ingram, Kuzma, Deng, 25th, here they avoid Deng by taking an overpaid but servicable player from the Bucks.

Bucks take a pg that fits better to Middleton and Giannis. Ball had 7.2 ast, 6.9 reb which they need more than 5.1 ast and 3.9 reb of better scoring Bledsoe. Don't forget that Lonzo is still rookie, so at least he will shoot like Bledsoe in time. Bucks eat 36 Deng's mil, but they also move 20 mil of their own bad salary

milpso

1.) 17 Jun 2018 14:22:09
I don't believe Milwaukee would want the "Ball Circus", Plus, Why would the Bucks get rid of 20 Mil of their own bad salary, Only to take on a worse salary of 36 Mil? I believe Milwaukee would pass on this idea.


2.) 17 Jun 2018 14:22:54
Spurs get Deng on trade or trade him to another team.


3.) 17 Jun 2018 15:38:20
@torque if Bud feels there is all star quality in Ball I'm ok with that trade. Bledsoe, Delly cost as much as Ball, Deng, 47th. We know Bledsoe's ceiling, if Bud is sure that he can make Lonzo's higher I take the circus. If Bucks can't trade for a third star next to Giannis and Middleton, they should try to make one instead of doing nothing.


4.) 17 Jun 2018 17:25:39
@milpso, I don't think anyone looks at Ball with "All Star" quality, Plus, who ant a non-starter (Deng) sitting on the bench paying him 36 Mil?, Yes, the Bucks do need to something, But, Ball and Deng are simply not the answer.


5.) 17 Jun 2018 18:01:06
RE, Wants, not "Ant"


 

 

16 Jun 2018 16:00:14
SAS - LAL - MIL

Spurs get Parker (16mil, s/t with Leonard), Kuzma, Maker, Wilson, 17th MIL

Lakers get Bledsoe, Green, Brogdon

Bucks get Leonard, Ball, Deng

SAS do that because they don't want Leonard in the West and straight to LA. They are getting a similar deal to what Lakers would offer them. It's like replacing Ingram and 25th with Parker, Maker and 17th

LAL still sign King and George. They bring Lebron's buddy and make cap space to sign Leonard in 2019. In that they even keep Bledsoe with MLE (or Brogdon) and of course Ingram as 6th.

MIL gets Leonard without losing Middleton. They hope that in time they convince him stay. At least they enjoy one dream season with Ball, Middleton, Leonard, Antetokoumbo, Dedmon starting 5.

milpso

1.) 16 Jun 2018 16:42:01
Why wouldn't LA just cut out the Bucks. They give up probably the 2 most valuable players outside of Kawhi here. Also, you can't sign and trade along side other players. Parker can't legally be involved directly with the trade. I don't think LA would have much interest in Bledsoe either.


2.) 16 Jun 2018 16:56:36
I agree with rkeene, Plus, Why would the Bucks want the Ball circus?, PLUS Deng's contract? I also don't think Leonard would want to come to Milwaukee. I also would rather see LA and the Spurs work out that trade. Instead of going after Leonard, Milwaukee should be looking for a Center. (Lopez, Jordan, Dedmon, but Not Whiteside, Think Larry Sanders) The Bucks could also use a legit SF, While moving 6'8" Middleton back to SG.


3.) 16 Jun 2018 17:29:47
This is based on Pop not wanting to send KL straight to LA, so you can't cut out Bucks. It's a mid ground for everyone. Lakers do their Big 3 with one year delay, Bucks take advantage for one year superteam.
It can be done if you seperate the KL - Parker trade.


4.) 16 Jun 2018 18:42:54
No super team has ball or deng om it.


 

 

 

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18 Jun 2018 11:51:49
Lebron opt in and trade scenarios. They are not ideal for Cavs of course since he can walk for nothing. I cut out GSW, Houston, Miami, Boston as i find it extremely unlikely for a trade

1. Lakers
Cavs get Deng, Ball, 25th, 47th

This is tricky because the Cavs can push for Kuzma also, assuming Lebron wants to recruit bot Paul and George

2. Knicks
Cavs get Noah, Thomas, 9th

It's not so bad for the Cavs since they get back to back 8th and 9th. Noah helps the two years tanking which gives two more lottery picks. Cavs can also trade something like Love for Parsons and 4th maybe. Knicks can trade Porzignis, Ntilkina for Leonard

3. Clippers
Cavs get Gallinari, 12th, 13th

Better for the Cavs. Two high picks and a servicable player. Beverly, Lou, Harris, Lebron, Jordan is a team that allows the King to compete

4. Spurs
Cavs get Aldridge, White, 24th

These are the only pieces that would interest the Cavs, but still not enough to be in the tax zone

5. Washington
Cavs get Gortat, Morris, Oubre, 15th

Oubre and 15th might interest the Cavs, since they only take two servicable expiring contracts

6. Milwaukee
Cavs get Snell, Henson, Maker, Brogdon, 17th

Something alike to the Wizards but with not expiring Snell and Henson

milpso

1.) 18 Jun 2018 13:57:07
The Cavs aren't going to take on that kind of salary in any Lebron trade. There first goal if Lebron leaves for the Cavs is to get under the luxury.


2.) 18 Jun 2018 17:43:54
After each one of these they go around 135 mil. They can unload then one contract for a 2nd or stretch one and get under the luxury.


3.) 18 Jun 2018 20:43:05
Unloading 15 to 20 million isn't going to be easy right now. A ton of teams want to unload salary and there aren't many teams willing or able to take it on. It's going to cost about as much as or more than the what they're getting back in most of these trades. The Cavs would have to get a ton back in any Lebron s and t that has to match salaries. I'd be happy with any young assets that they could get back because it's not my money, but looking at realistically, it's hard to imagine.


 

 

25 May 2018 08:38:01
There is a saying in Europe that Doncic wants to play in the NBA only for a playoff team. So if the Suns choose Ayton, he is not really into playing for SAC or ATL.

That said, he could fall at No4, which Memphis is reported to be willing to trade. In Europe it is also said that Lakers, Bulls, Spurs and Bucks are interested in Doncic.

What trades would you suggest?

milpso

1.) 25 May 2018 10:31:02
From what I have heard the Kings aren't interested in Doncic. I find it odd for the potential top pick of the draft to say he wants to play for a playoff team. You rarely have a playoff team drafting in top 5 of lottery. Also not a good look if he is already trying to force a trade. I hear his stock has slipped and he's not real athletic. I can't imagine any logical trade scenarios in a situation like this especially involving an overseas prospect.


2.) 25 May 2018 15:56:12
Doncic has little chance of demanding a trade before his on court performance is viewed. Lots of guys can't jump real high and are great nba players. His athleticism is there he has coordination all over the place. Ayton can't jump either, yet gets credit for moving well. Doncic can step back, crossover, shoot the 3. He's not slow mo like Kyle Anderson either.


3.) 01 Jun 2018 03:32:15
Kobe did it and didn't have three million s year in europe to run too. Doncic has more power than you think. Says he signs in eurooe any team that drafts him loses him for three years and wated a pick. I see him going to memphis.


 

 

06 May 2018 23:44:08
What if Lebron decides to join his successor in the NBA, Antetokounmbo, and his good friend Bledsoe?

I know Milwaukee is not a big market for the King like LA, but imagine him and Giannis playing together, plus he stays in the east where he has always been (only Phily could be in the question of his purchase).

The Bucks i think can afford to go over the tax for a couple of years, given their new arena and of course Lebron in this case.

Any thoughts?

milpso

1.) 07 May 2018 01:27:33
It'd be interesting, I'd worry about the lack of shooting around Lebron and Giannis. Also, it would have to be a trade since The Bucks have no cap space. What all would the Cavs want? The trade will keep them deep in the luxury, so it would need to be something pretty significant for a tanking team to be willing to pay luxury tax.


2.) 07 May 2018 17:32:50
MIL could make cap room for Lebron if they first talked Miami into accepting Henson, Delly, Snell for Whiteside - which is not impossible - and maybe give up on Wilson for any pick.


3.) 07 May 2018 17:53:21
The cap will be at 100 million next year. The Bucks without Parker have 107 million committed. After your suggested trade they would have about 102 million committed. Wilson would open up 3 more million. That would give Milwaukee 1 millionish to sign Lebron? They would have to gut the roster to open up 35 million.


 

 

 

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21 Jun 2018 21:52:52
They can't ask for talents and picks and unload Batum.

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20 Jun 2018 18:40:45
Why would Boston even think about that?

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20 Jun 2018 18:04:27
So Clippers take Leonard and retain two mid high picks? Too good for them.

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19 Jun 2018 20:42:19
That Bucks trade is really awful. Also hoy do with trade Faried with Kings?

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17 Jun 2018 15:38:20
@torque if Bud feels there is all star quality in Ball I'm ok with that trade. Bledsoe, Delly cost as much as Ball, Deng, 47th. We know Bledsoe's ceiling, if Bud is sure that he can make Lonzo's higher I take the circus. If Bucks can't trade for a third star next to Giannis and Middleton, they should try to make one instead of doing nothing.

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