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17 Jan 2019 21:08:01
Two trades in the deadline

Milwaukee: Nene, Chriss, Anthony
Washington: Connaughton, Wood, HOU 2019 FRP (top 15 protected)
Houston: Dekker, Smith, Green

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Ariza for Snell, WAS 2020 and 2021 SRPs back, WAS cash back

Milwaukee upgrade at backup SF with exp Ariza and unload Snell.

Washington gets for that their two SRPs and their cash back from Milwaukee and two rotation players tied with min contracts. They avoid the tax and get a FRP from Houston.

Rockets get three exp players that can immediately help their rotation while sending their trash to Milwaukee. Nene's PO adds value to part from their mid-low FRP.

milpso

1.) 17 Jan 2019 21:37:37
With the second trade, why is washington taking on Snell's additional years if salary when Wall's super max extension kicks in next year? Fianancially, washington can't and won't be looking for deals like this. Remember washington traded Oubre because they weren't going to be able to resign him (Oubre will get something in the $12-$15 per year range) . Taking on Snell would be the same thing as paying Oubre. ain't happening.


2.) 17 Jan 2019 22:00:39
So, why would Milwaukee do the 1st one?


3.) 17 Jan 2019 22:22:54
I think it's obvious that there are two trades here because Ariza can be traded combined with another player only after the deadline. It's one trade split in two just for functional reasons.


 

 

14 Jan 2019 22:57:12
MIL - LAC

Milwaukee: Gallinari, Williams
Clippers: Snell, Ilyasova, Smith, Connaughton, SRP

This is assuming LAC are convinced they can sign both Leonard and Durant in the offseason. It cuts them 10,5 million, which is just enough to go for it. It also "helps" them stay out of the playoffs and keep their FRP from Boston.

LAC 2019

Alexander...Beverly
Snell.......Robinson
Leonard.....Connaughton
Durant......Ilyasova
FRP.........Harell

This will set the Bucks way better for the playoffs. They will have to go in the tax next year to keep the team together, but it's worth if it takes them to the finals this season.

Bledsoe..... Hill
Brogdon..... Lou...... DDV
Middleton... Gallo.... Brown
Giannis..... Wilson
Lopez....... Maker.... Wood

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01 Jan 2019 11:18:46
Deadline deal with Beal asking out

Bucks get Beal
Washington get Hill, DiVicenzo, Maker, Brown, their 2020 and 2021SRPs back, Mil FRP (unprotected, it will probably fall in 2024 since Bucks owe 1sts to Suns and Cavs)

Bucks get even better. They will be good and deep enough to meet GSW in the finals.

Bledsoe....... Brogdon
Beal............. Pat
Middleton.... Snell
Giannis........ Wilson........ Wood
Lopez.......... Ilyasova...... Smith

Wizards get three young players to work with and a package of picks. They should sell everything now IMO and build again over Wall next season since his contract is untradeable.

milpso

1.) 01 Jan 2019 12:56:06
I think Brogdon would need to be in the deal.


2.) 01 Jan 2019 16:02:56
Brogdon is start Middleton is realistic. Beal is better than both.


3.) 01 Jan 2019 16:12:55
I believe the Bucks would pass. They seem to be doing ok without Beal. No need to give up the players that are getting them there, plus picks for a player they will have to find a way to pay later. No doubt Milwaukee is going to try and find a way to pay Middleton, Bledsoe, and Brogdan next year.


4.) 01 Jan 2019 16:50:35
If MIL hovers around the right # it's hard for me to see someone offering Wall money to poach Middleton. There seems to always be a CHI for every Parker though!


5.) 01 Jan 2019 17:19:51
Beal isn't better than Middleton imo similar offensively Middleton better defensively.


6.) 01 Jan 2019 17:42:04
Beal is a better player than Middleton currently. Middleton just had a slump showing how green he still is, and he doesn't have as much skill handling the ball. Beal hasn't had one of those in over 2 seasons. When Wall is out he lights up the score board and the Wiz do pretty good.


7.) 01 Jan 2019 19:10:55
Trading Beal with Middleton doesn't make sense for both teams. Beal is not that better for Milwaukee to risk Midds and Giannis chemistry. Washington wouldn't have interest too, since Middleton woulld 100% walk in summer.

Brogdon is the only player that should interest WAS since he will be restricted.


8.) 01 Jan 2019 20:02:32
Without Middleton there isn't a conversation to be had for Beal. Bucks are loaded @ the 2 is why I wouldn't be interested. Too much work to move all the other guys and get a replacement for Middleton. Bucks are better off. Wiz could handle some Middleton just fine.


9.) 01 Jan 2019 20:36:07
yes very unlikely middleton chooses to stay in wash, thus not a trade centerpiece.


10.) 01 Jan 2019 20:48:14
I think it's not enough. I think another team should get involved. Maybe take Bledsoe and give up Washington something else so bucks get another player too. Then bucks can start brogdan Beal Middleton giannis and lopez. Then just worry about resigning Middleton and brogdan is restricted so easy to keep. I put bucks at favorates easily if they add Beal for Bledsoe.


11.) 01 Jan 2019 23:53:22
Beal may be better handling theball but not at running an offense Middleton is better.


 

 

24 Dec 2018 23:55:42
MIL - NOP - ATL

Milwaukee: Mirotic, NOP filler
New Orleans: Snell, Ilyasova, Connaughton, Lin
Atlanta: Solomon Hill, WAS 2020 and 2021 SRP owed to MIL

Bucks grab a great 6th for their team and clear all their contracts. This makes them better now and gives them flexibility to do whatever they want in summer.

Pelicans add players in positions they need most help. Ilyasova can backup AD and Randle just fine and all three other players will upgrade their poor rotation.

Hawks will stragle to net a FRP from Lin. Two early 2nds for taking back Hill's contract is just fair.

milpso

1.) 25 Dec 2018 00:53:05
I believe the Bucks would pass. What they would get from NOP Mirotic and a "filler" They already have in Ilyasova! Snell and Connaughton.


2.) 25 Dec 2018 00:59:34
Can the filler be Washington lmao.


 

 

22 Dec 2018 23:55:32
LAL - NOP

This is actually what I think will happen. AD rejects the contract extension in July 1st and Boston pushes the Lakers to this offer:

Davis for Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Mykhailiuk, 2019 1st (LAL going to have to sign him at 1.7 mil to match salaries).

Lakers save Hart and 2021 1st with that and will have the exact cap space to go for Kawhi. They keep Rondo with the room exception and let James recruit 5-6 Chandlers.

Rondo/Bonga
Hart
Leonard
James
Davis

milpso

1.) 23 Dec 2018 00:15:05
If you do a side by side comparison of what the Celts and the Lakers can offer its pretty safe to say if BOS ponies up Tatum, and 3 '19 rookies they have an incredible edge.


2.) 23 Dec 2018 00:42:22
4 mid round 1st and Tatum is not good enough, milspo offer is better. Tatum Brown 4 late 1st seems fair.


3.) 23 Dec 2018 00:43:05
Leonard won't want to be in Lebron shadow lmao.


4.) 23 Dec 2018 00:44:23
Plus, I would guess that NOP, will want to trade him out of conference where they will face AD only twice a year, even If the offers are equal.


5.) 23 Dec 2018 00:56:30
Agree with Btec. Boston has the better young talebt and better collection of draft picks. Tgat is why New Orleabs is going to wait on trading him until this upcoming off season when AD is eligible for his supermax as well as Boston is eligible to actually trade for him.


6.) 23 Dec 2018 02:22:23
Shizzee, not at all what I was saying. Tatum and those picks are extra and others, above anything the Lakers can offer was the idea. Not Tatam and possibly 3 '19 rookies as a celts trade proposal. I'm not a homer with dumb value ideas.


7.) 23 Dec 2018 02:41:05
JoeB, That would be a seasoned, veteran, smart GM decision. Demps? Whatever happens he is outmatched considerably by LA, BOS executive management and has a history of being a sucker, or takes advice from one.


8.) 23 Dec 2018 03:04:02
Celtics offer is far better. I wish Boston would trade kyrie snd picks for him.


9.) 23 Dec 2018 12:11:36
Shiller, why do you wish the Celtics would trade Kyrie?


10.) 23 Dec 2018 12:52:05
JoeB- young guys all moved the ball last year. Celtics don't seem as good with kyrie. He will be expensive and older than rozier. Heck with the picks they can draft a backup pg and center.


11.) 23 Dec 2018 15:19:04
Why would the Pelicans value Irving. They’d be in the same place with him as they would be with Davis. Unless you’re bringing a third team in for Kyrie and even then you’re selling low on him given the uncertainty of his future.


12.) 23 Dec 2018 17:07:52
Fredman and btec I strongly disagree. If they wait those picks will be used and rozier would be restricted free agent. So that leaves brown and tatum Plus whoever Boston draft. If I'm trading my superstar I want a player with super star potential or for assets to get that super star potential player like tatum but will Boston include him. Boston has a lot of late first round picks look at Memphis Boston clippers and sac there doing pretty good none will be a top 8 pick. Boston has to do a trade now to cash in those picks for a better one or at least a young rookie contract player who not restricted to trade with brown for Davis. I see Boston chance now but it just can't happen cause Irving is on Boston. So in end it's either la or philly can win him in trade who would actually risk him for one year.


13.) 23 Dec 2018 19:12:47
II/ 9955 no. Tatum>Lakers stuff. Tatum is going to be really good for a long time probably. All-Star good. Next season I think.


14.) 23 Dec 2018 19:31:44
Btec Boston 3 picks this year not that good I rather have kuzma ball or Ingram anyday over all 3 picks. Plus Boston would have to trade Irving this year to get ad if not next year those 3 picks will be used up. Rozier may get offered big money so he not be in the trade for next year deadline. That leaves brown tatum and whoever Boston drafts. I'm going with ingram ball and kuzma plus 4 first then what Boston will have left.


15.) 23 Dec 2018 19:32:40
If Boston waits till next year rozier will be restricted free agent, all those picks will be used. Davis will be a laker just like cp3 was almost a laker so new Orleans will trade with the Lakers. Like ad said it's not about money it's about winning.


16.) 23 Dec 2018 19:57:58
Tatum> Lakers stuff.


17.) 23 Dec 2018 21:23:36
9955 there will def be a few teams willing to take a 1 season flyer on AD. okc did, toronto did, and AD is better than both those guys. pg inked with okc, and especially if kawhi stays in toronto like i think he will, some “one brow away from contending” team will risk it to take that chance with AD.


18.) 23 Dec 2018 23:13:13
I don't think Leonard stay. Toronto did the trade for better chance to win and there not going to beat golden state. No reason to stay pg13 stayed to play with Westbrook who in his prime. No reason for Leonard. Look at d12 he left lakers to play with Better option in Houston. Just my opinion don't think Boston includes tatum. If Lakers drafted tatum would say the same thing. He and simmons are the most untouchable players in the league to me.


19.) 24 Dec 2018 16:24:51
I think the Pelicans would actually be in a worse place with Kyrie than they are with Davis. He's got no control, and at that point all of your top talent is on the perimeter. At least right now they are spread throughout the ideal starting lineup with Davis, Mirotic and Holiday.

With the trade value FOR Davis, the Celtics definitely have more than the Lakers do, especially with Ingram just not looking very good this season. I think they're going to want Tatum, but I don't think that's the direction the Celtics would want to go. I think they'll wind up trying to include Horford or Hayward as the salary balance instead, and also including Brown and some picks. The Pelicans can do a whole lot worse than that.


 

 

 

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03 Sep 2018 21:15:49
PHO - MIN - MIL

Phoenix get Teague, Henson
Phoenix give Chandler, Bender, Canaan, Bucks 1st

Suns get a reliable starting pg. They loose a 1st for that, but they already have much talent to develop

Teague/Okobo/Melton
Booker/Jackson/Daniels
Ariza/Bridges/Reed
Warren/Anderson/Holmes
Ayton/Henson/Arthur

Minnesota get Bledsoe, Snell, Brogdon, Bender, Chandler, Bucks 1st
Minnesota give Teague, Butler, Dieng

Wolves commit with KAT and Wiggins and clear a ton of money. They can still make a run for the playoffs with Bledsoe, Brogdon combo.

Bledsoe/Jones/Rose
Brogdon/Snell/Okogie
Wiggins/Nunnaly/Bates-Diop
Gibson/Tolliver/Bender
Towns/Chandler/Patton

Milawukee get Butler, Dieng, Canaan
Milwaukee give Bledsoe, Brogdon, Snell, Henson

Bucks get the best player in the deal. Butler will be better off with Giannis IMO. Milwaukee will have to start Delly, but this can be fixed at the deadline and Bud can use Giannis as pg.

Dellavedova/Canaan/Duval
Butler/Brown/DeVincenzo
Middleton/Connaughton/Muhammad
Giannis/Ilyasova/Wilson
Lopez/Dieng/Maker

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18 Jun 2018 11:51:49
Lebron opt in and trade scenarios. They are not ideal for Cavs of course since he can walk for nothing. I cut out GSW, Houston, Miami, Boston as i find it extremely unlikely for a trade

1. Lakers
Cavs get Deng, Ball, 25th, 47th

This is tricky because the Cavs can push for Kuzma also, assuming Lebron wants to recruit bot Paul and George

2. Knicks
Cavs get Noah, Thomas, 9th

It's not so bad for the Cavs since they get back to back 8th and 9th. Noah helps the two years tanking which gives two more lottery picks. Cavs can also trade something like Love for Parsons and 4th maybe. Knicks can trade Porzignis, Ntilkina for Leonard

3. Clippers
Cavs get Gallinari, 12th, 13th

Better for the Cavs. Two high picks and a servicable player. Beverly, Lou, Harris, Lebron, Jordan is a team that allows the King to compete

4. Spurs
Cavs get Aldridge, White, 24th

These are the only pieces that would interest the Cavs, but still not enough to be in the tax zone

5. Washington
Cavs get Gortat, Morris, Oubre, 15th

Oubre and 15th might interest the Cavs, since they only take two servicable expiring contracts

6. Milwaukee
Cavs get Snell, Henson, Maker, Brogdon, 17th

Something alike to the Wizards but with not expiring Snell and Henson

milpso

1.) 18 Jun 2018 13:57:07
The Cavs aren't going to take on that kind of salary in any Lebron trade. There first goal if Lebron leaves for the Cavs is to get under the luxury.


2.) 18 Jun 2018 17:43:54
After each one of these they go around 135 mil. They can unload then one contract for a 2nd or stretch one and get under the luxury.


3.) 18 Jun 2018 20:43:05
Unloading 15 to 20 million isn't going to be easy right now. A ton of teams want to unload salary and there aren't many teams willing or able to take it on. It's going to cost about as much as or more than the what they're getting back in most of these trades. The Cavs would have to get a ton back in any Lebron s and t that has to match salaries. I'd be happy with any young assets that they could get back because it's not my money, but looking at realistically, it's hard to imagine.


 

 

25 May 2018 08:38:01
There is a saying in Europe that Doncic wants to play in the NBA only for a playoff team. So if the Suns choose Ayton, he is not really into playing for SAC or ATL.

That said, he could fall at No4, which Memphis is reported to be willing to trade. In Europe it is also said that Lakers, Bulls, Spurs and Bucks are interested in Doncic.

What trades would you suggest?

milpso

1.) 25 May 2018 10:31:02
From what I have heard the Kings aren't interested in Doncic. I find it odd for the potential top pick of the draft to say he wants to play for a playoff team. You rarely have a playoff team drafting in top 5 of lottery. Also not a good look if he is already trying to force a trade. I hear his stock has slipped and he's not real athletic. I can't imagine any logical trade scenarios in a situation like this especially involving an overseas prospect.


2.) 25 May 2018 15:56:12
Doncic has little chance of demanding a trade before his on court performance is viewed. Lots of guys can't jump real high and are great nba players. His athleticism is there he has coordination all over the place. Ayton can't jump either, yet gets credit for moving well. Doncic can step back, crossover, shoot the 3. He's not slow mo like Kyle Anderson either.


3.) 01 Jun 2018 03:32:15
Kobe did it and didn't have three million s year in europe to run too. Doncic has more power than you think. Says he signs in eurooe any team that drafts him loses him for three years and wated a pick. I see him going to memphis.


 

 

06 May 2018 23:44:08
What if Lebron decides to join his successor in the NBA, Antetokounmbo, and his good friend Bledsoe?

I know Milwaukee is not a big market for the King like LA, but imagine him and Giannis playing together, plus he stays in the east where he has always been (only Phily could be in the question of his purchase).

The Bucks i think can afford to go over the tax for a couple of years, given their new arena and of course Lebron in this case.

Any thoughts?

milpso

1.) 07 May 2018 01:27:33
It'd be interesting, I'd worry about the lack of shooting around Lebron and Giannis. Also, it would have to be a trade since The Bucks have no cap space. What all would the Cavs want? The trade will keep them deep in the luxury, so it would need to be something pretty significant for a tanking team to be willing to pay luxury tax.


2.) 07 May 2018 17:32:50
MIL could make cap room for Lebron if they first talked Miami into accepting Henson, Delly, Snell for Whiteside - which is not impossible - and maybe give up on Wilson for any pick.


3.) 07 May 2018 17:53:21
The cap will be at 100 million next year. The Bucks without Parker have 107 million committed. After your suggested trade they would have about 102 million committed. Wilson would open up 3 more million. That would give Milwaukee 1 millionish to sign Lebron? They would have to gut the roster to open up 35 million.


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2019 22:22:54
I think it's obvious that there are two trades here because Ariza can be traded combined with another player only after the deadline. It's one trade split in two just for functional reasons.

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17 Jan 2019 19:50:14
I think that Pau's 6-7 mil guaranteed kills it. And even if they weren't you need the Spurs 1st there.

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01 Jan 2019 19:10:55
Trading Beal with Middleton doesn't make sense for both teams. Beal is not that better for Milwaukee to risk Midds and Giannis chemistry. Washington wouldn't have interest too, since Middleton woulld 100% walk in summer.

Brogdon is the only player that should interest WAS since he will be restricted.

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22 Dec 2018 14:33:46
The Suns should ask a second trade with Anderson and ZBO to accept this.

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19 Dec 2018 20:51:53
So you are trading Brogdon for Oubre and Suns are getting the pick? I don't get it! Brogdon is a proven starter avg 15.3 ppg shooting 52/ 47/ 98 in his 3rd NBA year, while Oubre is underachieving in his 4th.
As much as I like Oubre, this is horrible for the Bucks. His value is closer to Maker and a 2nd than what you are suggesting.

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