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27 Oct 2020 20:00:38
Celtics get Andrew Wiggins, Eric Paschall, the 2nd overall pick, Minnesota's 2021 first round pick, and the Warriors' unprotected 2022 first round pick

-trades up from 30 to 2 to snag a franchise center in Wiseman, can go with multiple lineups, has future assets to work with. Kemba/Smart/Tatum/Paschall/Wiseman

Warriors get Jaylen Brown, Romeo Langford, and the 30th overall pick

Rerur

1.) 27 Oct 2020 20:18:10
Nah. Not in Celtics interests.


 

 

27 Oct 2020 19:44:37
Celtics get the 1st overall pick (James Wiseman), James Johnson (exp.), Jake Layman, the 17th overall pick, and a top 3 protected 2023 first round pick

-saves cap space, upgrades two of their three first-rounders, gets a franchise center, adds a future asset. Kemba/Smart/Hayward/Tatum/Wiseman

Timberwolves get Jaylen Brown, the 14th overall pick, and the 30th overall pick

-gets a perfect third star to complement KAT/Dlo, still have two 2020 first rounders

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27 Oct 2020 18:59:28
As a Pistons fan, I'd like to see this trade happen on draft night.

Pistons get the rights to the 1st overall pick (LaMelo Ball)

-get a young face of the franchise to build around

Timberwolves get the rights to the 8th overall pick, a top 3 protected 2021 first round pick, the Lakers' 2021 second round pick, and the Trailblazers' 2023 second round pick

-replenishes their 2021 picks just for moving down 7 spots, and they get a future second rounder as a sweetener

Thoughts?

Rerur

1.) 27 Oct 2020 19:01:59
7th overall pick not 8th overall.


2.) 27 Oct 2020 20:09:35
Seems like roughly fair value. Minnesota is looking to move down from reports. Detroit moving up makes sense as they’re devoid of talent.


 

 

27 Oct 2020 04:17:37
Draft night trade (revised)

Suns get the rights to the 1sf overall pick (LaMelo Ball) and James Johnson (exp.)

-dynamic young big 3, cap space

Mavericks get Ricky Rubio

-takes major playmaking pressure off Luka, can feed him and Kristaps

Timberwolves get Maxi Kleber, Delon Wright, the rights to the 10th pick from Phoenix, rights to the 18th pick from Dallas, and a top 3 protected 2021 first round pick from Phoenix

-provides a huge depth boost, gives them a 2021 pick

Rerur

1.) 27 Oct 2020 04:46:06
Dallas won't do it. Rubio can't shoot well. Dallas need shooters around luka.


2.) 27 Oct 2020 09:26:26
That's actually good for Dallas. It will give them another European playmaker to ease some burden on Doncic.


3.) 27 Oct 2020 09:40:08
I can't see the Wolves doing this.


 

 

26 Oct 2020 18:58:13
Draft night trade

Suns get the rights to the 1st overall pick (LaMelo Ball) and James Johnson (exp.)

Timberwolves get Ricky Rubio, the rights to the 10th overall pick, and a top 3 protected 2021 first round pick

The Suns now have a young, dynamic big 3 in Booker, Ball, and Ayton. LaMelo could be their franchise point guard for the next decade. Johnson's expiring contract will give the Suns cap space next offseason.

The Timberwolves welcome back Rubio who can distribute between KAT and Dlo. They retain a lottery pick this year and add a first round pick next year, which will be much needed considering that their 2021 first belongs to GSW.

Rerur

1.) 26 Oct 2020 19:06:11
Forgot to mention that Rubio’s presence allows Dlo to play the 2 and focus on scoring. Or Dlo can continue running the show and Rubio can be an elite 6th man.


2.) 26 Oct 2020 21:46:29
As much as would love Run to come back to the Wolves, I don't think it is in the cards. Especially with Russell on the roster.


3.) 26 Oct 2020 22:21:51
Find another team to take Rubio for an asset and it might work.


4.) 26 Oct 2020 23:33:44
Looks solid


 

 

 

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06 Oct 2020 17:05:12
If I'm the Timberwolves, I'm doing whatever it takes to land Devin Booker without trading KAT or Dlo. Although that big 3 has no defense, the offensive potential is insane. With three young stars in the mix, it shouldn't be too hard to recruit defensive veterans to come play there. Those three players are best friends, so there's a great chance that they would play with each other in Minnesota for the rest of their careers.

What do you guys think it'd take to pull this off? Obviously the 1st overall pick and Jarrett Culver would have to be included, but what else? How many first round picks? If there are any Suns fans out there, what kind of package would you expect for Dbook?

Rerur

1.) 06 Oct 2020 17:56:12
4 1sts, culver, Johnson, the 1st, the 17th, and maybe 2-3 2nds seems fair.


2.) 06 Oct 2020 17:59:34
After Booker’s bubble performance, Phoenix can’t trade him. He and the team looked too good. They have to give it a chance for a full season.

Minnesota’s best bet would have been for Phoenix to flop in the bubble.


 

 

02 Feb 2018 21:41:26
Warriors dream offseason

Warriors get LeBron James (he opts into the final year of his contract like CP3 did last summer)

Cavs get Klay Thompson and Andre Iguodala

Sign JJ Redick and Brook Lopez to the veteran minimum

Re-sign David West to the veteran minimum, re-tain Patrick McCaw and Kevon Looney (RFA)

C: Draymond Green/Brook Lopez/D. Jones
PF: Kevin Durant/David West/Jordan Bell
SF: LeBron James/Kevon Looney
SG: JJ Redick/Patrick McCaw
PG: Steph Curry/Shaun Livingston

With this squad, it's game over. It might take some time for them to get chemistry but once they do there's no stopping them. 16-0 in the postseason for sure. Redick and Lopez would be leaving a lot of money on the table but I bet they'd do it for a chance to play a big role on the greatest team ever assembled.

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13 Jul 2017 17:04:51
2013 NBA Re-Draft

1. Cleveland Cavaliers
Actual pick: Anthony Bennett, PF
Do-over pick: Giannis Antetokounmpo, SF

It didn't take the Cavs long to figure out that Anthony Bennett was one of the biggest draft busts in NBA history. A little over a year after the Cavs drafted Bennett, he was shipped to Minnesota in a deal that brought All-Star PF Kevin Love to CLE. Bennett has continued to do nothing as a T-wolf.

Meanwhile, the 15th overall pick Giannis Antetokounmpo has blossomed into an All-NBA Second Team player in just his fourth season. Giannis lead the Milwaukee Bucks in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals for the entire 2016-17 campaign(!) en route to a playoff berth. The Greek Freak is currently a three point shot away from becoming a consistent MVP threat.

Kyrie Irving's body control along with the prospect of acquiring Kevin Love was enough to convince LeBron to bring his talents back home in 2014. Imagine if the Cavs had Kyrie Irving and Giannis Antetokounmpo? Although it wasn't super obvious Giannis would be a star after his rookie year, he possessed a rare combination of length and athleticism: the same combination that made LeBron intrigued with center Tristan Thompson. With LeBron at the 4 and Giannis at the 3, a Kevin Love trade is no longer necessary. The Cavs could keep their 2014 and '15 first rounders and use them to address depth issues. A LeBron-Giannis-Kyrie Big 3 would currently be the best trio in the NBA in my opinion, although GSW might have something to say about that. Oh, what could've been...

2. Orlando Magic
Actual pick: Victor Oladipo, SG
Do-over pick: Rudy Gobert, C

Victor Oladipo hasn't been a bust, but he also hasn't been the franchise player the Magic were hoping he'd be. Orlando traded Oladipo to OKC in 2016 for Serge Ibaka, and a year later the Thunder traded him to the Pacers as part of a package for Paul George.

The 27th overall pick Rudy Gobert has developed into the kind of defensive center that would remind Magic fans of Dwight Howard in his prime. In his fourth season, Gobert was named to both the All-NBA Second Team and the All-Defensive First Team. Although he's still nothing special offensively (14 ppg) Gobert has the upside to be the best overall center in the game one day and a multiple DPOY winner.

Gobert would have given the Magic something they've lacked since Dwight Howard: a true franchise player. Rudy would have fit right in with a franchise that has only made the finals with a center as its best player (Shaq in 1995, Howard in 2009). The Magic are far from contention, but they'd be a lot closer with Gobert as the face of the franchise.

3. Washington Wizards
Actual pick: Otto Porter Jr., SF
Do-over pick: CJ McCollum, SG

Otto Porter has been a nice fit in Washington alongside Bradley Beal and John Wall: when Beal is actually playing. Beal has battled injuries throughout his career. Porter and Beal will make a combined $48.6 Million next year, pretty outrageous considering the skill and reliability of both.

McCollum has developed into the perfect complement for Damian Lillard in Portland. His scoring and sweet-shooting would help to take the pressure off any star. McCollum would be a better, more reliable backcourt complement to John Wall than Beal. The Wizards could have easily traded Beal for a veteran small forward or for draft picks. Everything is crystal clear in hindsight though.

4. Charlotte Bobcats
Actual pick: Alex Len, C
Do-over pick: Steven Adams, C

Alex Len is another bust of this class. The Suns have to be kicking their-selves for passing on Gobert and Steven Adams.

Adams has developed into a nice starting center in this league, capable of averaging a double-double while being a good defender. Adams can protect the rim and close out on shooters very well for a big man. The Suns wouldn't be forced to start an over-priced Tyson Chandler at center with Adams around.

Rerur

1.) 13 Jul 2017 19:24:50
The issue with the first scenario is nobody considered Giannis that high of a prospect and a major project at that. If they did select him and didn't trade for Love (kept Wiggins) then that likely wouldn't have been enough to convince Lebron to come back to Cleveland with Giannis a major question mark. They likely still would've had to have made that Love trade to attract Lebron (Lebron clearly signed with the promise the Twolves would trade Wiggins for Love) .

Magic are a mess. Oladipo wasn't that bad a pick given that draft class and as great a defensive force Gobert is without another star on their team Magic wouldn't be much better than they are now. Its highly unlikely they would've drafted a center with a young Vucevic putting in a strong season the year prior.

I don't view McCollum as an upgrade over Beal the only advantage is that he'd been healthy although Beal was able to do that this past year. Those same injuries would tarnish Beal's trade value so I doubt they'd get anyone better than Porter is now especially nobody as young as him. McCollum is being paid basically just as much as Beal. Don't see this switch making much if any difference.


2.) 14 Jul 2017 13:54:16
If Steven Adams is going at 4
it's a real thin draft.


3.) 15 Jul 2017 03:47:56
My top 10 retake of the draft

1 Cleveland - Greek freak (Kyrie, wiggins, Greek freak)
2 Orlando - Cj McCollom (could've used a 20 point scorer)
3 Washington - R Gobert ( wall, beal, gobert lineup scary)
4 Charlotte - N Noel ( defense walker, mkg, Noel)
5 Phoenix - O Porter ( 3&d alongside Bledsoe and booker)
6 Philadelphia - V Oladipo ( best player available )
7 Sacramento - KCP ( sac choose different gaurd who can defend)
8 Detroit - B McLemore ( more of a sweet shooter for Drummond)
9 Utah - D Shroeder ( way better then trey burke)
10 Portland - S Adams ( Adams + Aldridge would of been fun)

Unlucky c zeller, k Olynyk, A Crabbe, g Dieng.


4.) 17 Jul 2017 14:33:39
My retake of that top 10

1. Cleveland - Giannis Antetokounmpo ( Kyrie, Wiggins, Greek freak would be cool)
2. Orlando - Cj McCollom ( no clear option grabbing a 20+ point player isn't bad )
3. Washington - Rudy Gobert ( a core now of Wall, Beal and Gobert would be scary)
4. Charlotte - Nerlons Noel ( defensive beast to pair with walker and mkg)
5. Phoenix - Otto Porter ( adds defence and 3pt shooting next to booker and Bledsoe)
6. Philadelphia - Victor Oladipo ( needed everything best player available )
7. Sacramento - KCP ( sac town can't develop sg's but kcp can defend well)
8. Detroit - Ben McLemore ( with right development could become sweet 3 and d )
9. Utah - Dennis Schroeder ( they were looking for a pg and he's a lot better then Burke)
10. Portland - Steven Adams (Adams and Aldridge pairing would compliment each other)



Unlucky - Cody Zeller, Allen Crabbe, Gorgui Dieng, Kelly Olynyk.


 

 

22 Jan 2016 22:51:05
Cavs get Dwight Howard

Rockets get Kevin Love

It's pretty apparent that the Cavs need a lot of help on defense, and Kevin Love doesn't provide that. His offensive stats have taken a huge hit since Kyrie Irving has returned to the lineup and Love just simply isn't a good defender. Howard, on the other hand, is still one of if not the best defensive big man in the game and still has plenty left in the tank as evident by his recent 36 point 26 rebound outing. Most importantly, Howard wants to win now and is hungry for a ring; so he should have no problem accepting a not-so prominent offensive role in Cleveland. James and Irving should be able to capitalize on plenty of alley-oop passes to the big man however and a Howard-Tristan Thompson front court would be nasty defensively (assuming they don't bring in a stretch four like Markieff Morris) .

The Rockets on the other hand have a putrid defense that would get much worse with swapping Howard for Love. The Rockets really don't have a chance at contending in the West this season anyway, so tanking the rest of this year and getting a good lottery pick seems like the best course of action. Love is younger than Howard, much more dynamic offensively, and is under contract for the next several seasons. Howard is likely to opt out of the final year of his deal this summer and leave Houston if he isn't traded by the deadline. This move would give Houston a legit 1-2 scoring punch in Harden and Love that they can build around over the next couple of years. They would need to surround this duo with top notch defenders if they want to contend, but that is feasible.

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06 Jul 2015 03:09:31
NBA Talk

Do you think the Cavaliers would've been better off trading Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, and the future first round pick to the Portland Trailblazers for Lamarcus Aldrige instead of to the Timberwolves for Kevin Love?

It's an interesting idea. Aldrige is a better defender than Love and shoots at a higher percentage from the field, but Love is a better rebounder and much better three point shooter. Another aspect to consider is age: Love will only be 27 in September whereas Aldrige turns 30 this month. In my opinion, Love is a better fit offensively alongside LeBron James and Kyrie Irving because Love is a three point shooter who can spread the floor and create space for the ball handlers. Aldrige could create space with his mid range jumpers but he wouldn't serve as a threat from three (27.6 % from three in his career).

Ultimately, I think the Cavs made the right choice by going with Love. He's younger, a superior rebounder/3 PT shooter and better fits the team in Cleveland (IMO). I could see Aldrige making a lot of sense though, so I want to hear some other opinions. What would you have done?

Rerur

1.) 06 Jul 2015 14:15:28
The Cavs would've been better off with Aldrige. His efficient low-post offense and mid-range game would perfectly complement LeBron and Kyrie. Aldrige would also have provided more help on defense than Love and Aldrige had actual playoff experience prior to this season. Aldrige could've been a leader on this team alongside LeBron and in my opinion the Cavs would've beaten the Warriors had Aldrige been on the team and healthy for the Finals.


 

 

 

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27 Oct 2020 19:03:57
As a Pistons fan, I don’t like the idea of trading Sekou. I’d rather trade draft picks. Sekou is pretty much our only young player with star potential.

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27 Oct 2020 19:01:59
7th overall pick not 8th overall.

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27 Oct 2020 18:50:35
I see your logic but I doubt either team likes it. The Hornets will likely be able to snag Wiseman at 3, so I don’t see a need to trade up. Johnson is an expiring contract so it’s not like the Twolves are getting major relief. Not really worth it for them to trade down or get a random pick next year.

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27 Oct 2020 04:20:26
Warriors get ripped off. Throw in Barrett and it’s a discussion.

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26 Oct 2020 21:55:54
Not bad value wise but I don’t see why the Magic would do it.

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