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28 May 2017 19:10:03
4 way Trade Proposal GS - Bos - Dal - Min

GS trades Klay Thompson
GS Receives Seth Curry, Dwight Powell, #9 pick from Mavs (draft Lauri Markannen)

Dal trades Seth curry, Dwight Powell, Wes Matthews, and #9 pick
Dal receives klay Thompson and Ricky Rubio

Bos trades 1st pick
Bos receives Dieng and 7th pick (draft PG)

Minnesota trades Rubio, dieng, 7th pick
Minnesota receives Matthews, Zeller (waive), Mickey (waive), 1st pick (draft Fultz)

GSW opens up some cap space. Adds a knockdown shooter in Curry. Adds an athletic, rim-chasing big in Powell. Adds a stretch 5 who would add even more space on offense.

Dal gets the pass first pg they desire and one of the best 3 and d players in the league. They may be getting a little too much in this deal. 2019 first may have to be thrown in.

Bos gets a solid all around big man without letting go of any of its main contributors. In this draft, the 7th pick should still be a good prospect but I don't know if Ainge would see Dieng as valuable enough to bridge the gap between these 6 picks.

Minnesota drafts Fultz. He could be there pg for the next decade +. This move also free cap space allowing them to look for a pf (Millsap?) in free agency

I believe this trade makes all 4 teams better than before. What do you guys think?


1.) 28 May 2017 19:37:01
Not enough for Klay and Boston could get more out of the 1st pick.

2.) 28 May 2017 19:48:40
Why would the Celtics do this when they could just sign a big in free agency and keep the first pick?

3.) 28 May 2017 19:53:30
Out of all those names, the only one that would get Ainge to return a phone call would be Thompson. Dieng doesn't come close to moving the needle.

4.) 29 May 2017 05:00:57
You guys seem to be very high on Markelle Fultz. In my opinion, Dennis Smith and Gorgui Dieng (as a pair) are more valuable than Fultz. Dieng is a proven, starting caliber big man who can play either C or PF and he is signed for the next 4 years. If the Celtics were to look for a big man in free agency, they'd have to pay him more than Dieng. For the Celtics, this trade nets them a quality big man, a young guard with a lot of potential, and they maintain enough cap space to sign a max player such as Hayward.



19 May 2017 02:29:31
Simple 3-way Trade between Philly, Orlando, and LAL that benefits everyone

Magic receive D'Angelo Russel, Gerald Henderson, and Tarik Black (cut), 3rd pick (from Philly)

76ers receive Evan Fournier, 6th Pick (from Orlando)

Lakers receive Nikola Vucevic

----- Reasons ------
Magic gets a young combo guard in Russell and move up into the top 3 to grab either Jackson or Tatum. ThIs will give them a young Big 3 (Russell, Jackson/Tatum, and Gordon) to build around.

Philly gets a scoring 2 guard who would be a great complement to PG Simmons. Fournier is young and signed long-term on a pretty reasonable contract. They should also draft Monk who could be an excellent sixth man until he's ready to start.

Lakers add a skilled big man who could help a thin frontcourt. And they get rid of Russell who probably wouldn't be a great fit with Lonzo.

----- Post-trade Depth Charts ------
Russell, Payton, Augustin, Watson
Ross, Henderson, Meeks
Jackson/Tatum, Hezonja
Gordon, FA
Biyombo, Zimmerman

Simmons, McConnell, Bayless
Fournier, Monk
Covington, TLC, Anderson
Saric, Holmes
Embiid, Okafor

Lonzo, FA, nwaba
Clarkson, young, brewer
Ingram, deng,
Randle, Nance
Vucevic, Zubac, Mozgov

**** Please comment what you think****


1.) 19 May 2017 04:49:33
I don't like it for Lakers. I love Vuc but he and Randle would be terrible defensively. They can package Russell to a bigger deal.

2.) 19 May 2017 06:40:51
I agree with USA. Vucevic is a solid youngish big on a reasonable contract but isn't a good fit with Lakers roster plus I don't think his value is as high as Russell. I also, don't think Russell would be a bad fit basketball wise with Lonzo. Russell played off-ball to Clarkson for stretches and was successful. Russell is also much more of a natural scorer than Lonzo who is a more natural pg that can impact the game without scoring a bunch of points. Personality wise their could be a clash (more so with Lavarr and Russell) that could create unnecessary drama and distractions (as Russell has already done previously) .

I don't think 76ers would mind trading down and adding a shooter like Fournier although I wouldn't describe his contract as reasonable especially since his numbers are inflated on that Magic team. 76ers would probably need more to be really interested in this since Jackson is a great prospect (although not that great a fit with 76ers) .

I don't think Magic value Vucevic that much and Fournier although youngish doesn't provide much besides scoring. Don't think #6 is a great position for the Magic (Fox is too similar to Payton, Issac probably their best option but he is very hit or miss) so trading up is definitely in the cards. Getting a guy like Russell too who can play pg or sg would be a big win for the Magic who otherwise wouldn't have too much to be excited about.



04 May 2017 18:29:40
Suns NBA Champs 2019

Suns trade: Bledsoe, Warren, Ulis, Barbosa, Chandler, 2018 1st (via Miami)
Suns Receive: Deandre Jordan and Jimmy Butler

New York Knicks trade: Carmelo Anthony
New York Knicks receive: Bledsoe, Rivers, Brice Johnson

Clippers Trade: Deandre Jordan, Austin Rivers, Brice Johnson, and Wesley Johnson
Clippers Receive: Carmelo, Tyson Chandler, and Barbosa

Bulls trade: Jimmy Butler
Bulls receive: Tyler Ulis, TJ warren, Wesley Johnson, 2018 1st via Miami

Suns get 2 big name players. Draft Lonzo.
Lonzo, Booker, Butler, Bender/Chriss, Jordan is an athletic starting 5 that can push the ball and score points. Jordan and Butler are both outstanding defenders as well. They still have Knight, Dudley, and Chriss/Bender off the bench. And they have $24 million left to fill out the bench.

Clippers switch things up. Get a scoring SF which they've been lacking for years. This trade also reunites Chandler and Paul. Chandler is past his prime but he can still rebound, act as a lob threat for Paul, be a defensive anchor/leader, and most importantly shoots a better FT% than Jordan. Barbosa is a good veteran who fills the hole left by rivers.

Knicks get an established attack-oriented PG with Bledsoe. I think he could carve out a lot of space for Hernangomez and Porzingis. Rivers is a young, energy guy who could be a good bench player for the Knicks.

Bulls might not be happy with this offer, but they get two young players. Ulis, a local Chicagoan, who showed at the end of the season that he could be a starting PG in this league. He is undersized but he is crafty and understands the game very well. Warren is only 23 and he has great scoring instincts. He needs to work on long distance shooting, but he has a knack for getting the ball in the basket, which is a good skill to have for someone his age. A 2018 Miami 1st is probably a lottery pick (maybe not though). If this isn't enough, PHX could always throw in their own 2018 pick to sweeten the deal.


1.) 04 May 2017 19:13:32
Chicago and the Clippers should be getting more and the Suns need to be the ones giving it.

2.) 04 May 2017 19:14:37
How come the Suns avoid getting Anthony in that deal?

3.) 04 May 2017 19:27:23
Clippers say no.

4.) 04 May 2017 20:14:29
I just think the clippers clearly aren't working together. The talent is there but for some reason it doesn't translate to wins. Their core has never even made a conference finals. Before blowing up their entire roster, maybe they should try something different and switch it up. Carmelo has had his problems but nonetheless he is immensely talented. Paul could keep him in check and bring out the best in him. Paul and Chandler already have great chemistry from their days in New Orleans. I think this trade offers the clippers a third option. The first two being 1. blowing it all up and 2. Holding on to the same underperforming squad.

To please your demands, how about the Knicks send O'Quinn to the clippers, the Suns send Bender to the Bulls, and the clippers send pierce to the Suns (they have the cap space to absorb pierce's contract even though he'a retiring) .

5.) 05 May 2017 01:04:39
I think the suns would need to add their pick this year to get Butler and then something significant to the Clippers. The Clippers wouldn't do Jordan for Melo straight up and the extra players they're giving up in the trade have more value than the extras they're getting back.

6.) 05 May 2017 06:19:32
I'm trying to make something work where the Suns won't have to give up this year's pick. And for the clippers, the two johnsons hardly ever play so the clippers aren't losing much with them. So it becomes a DJ and rivers for Carmelo, Chandler, and Barbosa. I think Chandler still has some left in the tank. He doesn't get much respect around the league anymore because he has been on lottery teams or bad playoff teams for awhile now. But I think people should remember that he was a starting C for an NBA Champion. I think he'd be a solid replacement for DJ. And for Barbosa, he has contributed in the last two NBA finals. He plays a similar role to rivers. Both attack the basket hard and can knock down an occasional three. This trade definitely involves some risk-taking for the clippers but i think it's worth it. Because if it fails, they just rebuild, which they are already considering now.



02 May 2017 17:43:46

San Antonio - Afflalo (waive), Tolliver (waive), Kyle O'Quinn (backup C)

New York - Tony Parker, Pau Gasol (must opt-in), Rodney McGruder

Miami - Carmelo

Sacramento - Bosh and 2017 1st round pick from Miami

San Antonio saves $24 million so they can sign Chris Paul.

New York drafts Frank Ntilkina (Phil Jackson is not afraid to draft foreign prospects). Tony Parker can mentor Ntilkina (both french) and Gasol (former Jackson player) can mentor Hernangomez (both Spanish). Knicks will not be contenders next season so they can use these veterans to help build up their youth. And then after next season, their big salaries will be off the books. Mcgruder is also a young player is a nice piece to sweeten the deal.

Miami gets Carmelo, who would be happy to waive his no trade clause. Miami now has a big 3 of dragic, Anthony, and whiteside. They also have some solid young guys in winslow, tyler Johnson, and Richardson. And most importantly, they get rid of bosh's contract. I believe this team is capable of making the conference finals.

Sacramento absorbs bosh's contract for 2 years during their rebuild but they get another lottery pick (giving them 3 this year). Kings make this move and trust the process of stockpiling assets.


1.) 02 May 2017 20:08:20
I think Miami and Sacramento would probably jump at this. I think NY would definitely do it, even if it just puts butts in the seats. The holdback I have is San Antonio. I really don't see Pop moving Parker unless he asks, and even with Paul a possibility, I'm not sure if he would move those two guys for him. It might make total basketball sense as Paul and O'Quinn probably fit the rest of that squad better. but I just don't see him making that move. This is one of the few "complex" trades out there that actually makes some sense though.

2.) 02 May 2017 20:31:46
I understand the reservations Pop may have in dealing Parker who has grown up before his eyes and been his starting pg for past 15+ seasonss but the playoffs thus far have shown Spurs need to do something if they want to stay competitive. Adding Paul who is still the best pure point guard in the league would be a very good compliment to Leonard and hopefully would lead LA to be a more consistent contributor. If Paul is truly interested in going to SA then I think its too difficult to say no to him. I could see Pop saying no if it were a player of a lower caliber or different style but we are speaking of Chris Paul who appears to be the last great traditional, pass first pg who was made for Pops system.

At 35 and numbers that are near all-time lows for him maybe Parker considers retirement (his days as a starter are nearing an end but he seems to have a few years left in him) . A bit of a stretch but it would be a way for him to go out a Spur and help Pop make this complicated decision.



30 Apr 2017 20:22:58
4 team trade

Boston Receives Derrick favors
Phoenix receives Drummond and Hilliard
Detroit receives Bledsoe, Burks, bender
Utah receives Bradley and warren

Boston lacks frontcourt depth and rebounding. Favors solves both of those problems. Both favors and bradley's contracts expire in a year. Seems fair to me.

Phoenix drafts Ball. Phoenix gets an athletic big who could be a great lob threat for Ball.

Detroit drafts Jarrett Allen. Stan Van Gundy is excellent at developing big men (Howard, Drummond). Allen has all the physical tools. He just needs good coaching. They also get a talented point guard, a scoring wing that could help a weak bench, and a young stretch 4 (which Detroit has been looking for).

Utah gets an all NBA defender who would be a great starting 2 guard for them. They get a talented young scorer in warren. This trade also opens up more than $10 million in cap space to help re-sign Hayward and hill.


1.) 30 Apr 2017 23:43:41
Detroit is getting way too much.

2.) 01 May 2017 00:21:39
I like the idea. Derrick Favors would be a solid pickup for Celtics but Bradley is a little much to give up for him considering Favors injury woes which have impacted his play significantly this past season.

Phx getting Drummond wouldn't be a bad pickup especially at that price. sf would be a little weak if they dealt Warren and drafted Ball but Drummond is a good young dominant rebounder that could be part of that core.

I don't think Jarrett Allen has anywhere near the ability that Howard or Drummond has and overall don't like this move for Pistons. Bledsoe is an improvement over Jackson but has his own injury woes and they still owe Jackson a ton of money. Burks is a solid roleplayer but I'd like to see Stanley Johnson get more of a chance to develop instead of bringing in another guy. Bender could be a stretch 4 but he is also a major project.

Utah is getting too much in my opinion.




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26 Jun 2017 21:59:06
But Bledsoe, Booker, Jackson, Love, and Drummond is a hell of a starting 5.




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19 Jun 2017 16:44:06
Hawks are not trading #19 and #31 for D'Angelo who won't even start and deng's terrible contract.




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29 May 2017 05:00:57
You guys seem to be very high on Markelle Fultz. In my opinion, Dennis Smith and Gorgui Dieng (as a pair) are more valuable than Fultz. Dieng is a proven, starting caliber big man who can play either C or PF and he is signed for the next 4 years. If the Celtics were to look for a big man in free agency, they'd have to pay him more than Dieng. For the Celtics, this trade nets them a quality big man, a young guard with a lot of potential, and they maintain enough cap space to sign a max player such as Hayward.




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15 May 2017 02:32:16
It would take a Christmas miracle for the lakers to receive a very skilled young big man in Kanter, Bayless, and Huestis for an aging, overpaid Deng. Also, this move does not eat up Philly's cap space but rather opens up more for them. I don't think the 76ers would be willing to give up 3 players for ovepaid veteran leadership and a low 1st round pick, but it's possible. I do think the Thunder need to bring in some fresh faces but I feel like they would want some better wings than brewer and Henderson. Okafor would be a nice piece for the Thunder. He is a cheaper, younger Kanter. I'd suggest replacing the 76ers with a different team and I think the lakers should probably part ways with Clarkson in this type of deal.




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10 May 2017 18:53:44
Love and Kyrie sat but they still won the game. You can't complain about a win. And draymond is the 4th best player on his team and he speaks out frequently. So is he not allowed to speak either? Now you're hating on free speech.





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