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24 Jul 2017 21:36:00
Simple 3 Way trade

Celtics receive Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson

Cavs receive Wiggins, Horford, and 2018 LAL/ SAC 1st round pick (from Boston)
(Sign D-Rose)

Timberwolves receive Isaiah Thomas and Kyle Korver.

1088jonesp

1.) 25 Jul 2017 01:02:27
how factual is this?


2.) 25 Jul 2017 01:44:48
And white loudly the wolves laugh. So they give up a top flight two way player for an expiring contract of a player who scores, doesn't pass that well, and plays literally zero defense? Awesome.


3.) 25 Jul 2017 02:19:59
I can't see those two teams trading with each other at this time since there arguably 1 and 2 in the east.


4.) 25 Jul 2017 02:22:22
Wiggins for Irving sure but I don't think Twolves give up Wiggins for IT and Korver. Also, I don't think I'd prefer Horford over Thompson if I were Cavs due to Thompson being a much better rebounder and very good pick and roll defender.


5.) 25 Jul 2017 16:17:54
Hamburger, I don't believe Wiggins is a top 25 player in the league so it's a stretch to call him "top flight. " Also, a 30 ppg scorer is valuable no matter how you look at it. The twolves could use the veterans and shooting provided by Thomas and Korver.


6.) 27 Jul 2017 19:14:42
I don't think I would give up Wiggins for Irving let alone for Thomas. If the wolves didn't sign Jeff Teague I could see them trading for Irving. but they're probably not going to spend close to 40 million next season just on PG's.


 

 

23 Jul 2017 19:46:37
Cavs, Suns, Pistons, and Magic

Cavs trade Irving, Thompson, Shumpert, Frye
Cavs receive Bledsoe, Knight, Drummond, Bradley

Suns trade Bledsoe, Knight, Bender
Suns receive Jackson, Vucevic, Leuer, 2018 Det 1st

Pistons trade Drummond, Jackson, Bradley, Leuer, 2018 1st
Pistons receive Irving, Thompson, Bender, Hezonja, Georges-Hunt, and Felder

Magic trade Vucevic, Hezonja, Georges Hunt
Magic receive Shumpert, Frye

Why?
A starting lineup of Bledsoe, Bradley, James, Love, and Drummond is full of defensive potential. Knight would also be a solid combo guard off the bench. And they retain smith, Korver, and Jefferson who Wilson come off the bench too.

Pistons get a young stud in Kyrie, a potentially lethal stretch 4 in Bender, and a hustle center in Tristan. Hezonja is also still young and has room to develop.

Bledsoe and Knight do not fit in the same timeline of Booker and Jackson. Also, the west is so competitive right now, they might as well build for the future, not the present. Jackson and Vucevic are good NBA players who could be solid starters for a couple of years until their contracts run out and the Suns are ready to compete.

1088jonesp

1.) 23 Jul 2017 19:51:00
And for the Magic, they add frontcourt shooting and wing defense. Both of which are team needs.


2.) 23 Jul 2017 20:57:05
Awful value for Magic. Both Shumpert and Frye can leave after this season and they are giving up their best player in Vucevic, and Hezonja who hasn't done anything really in first two seasons but is still only 22 and has upside.

Trade is very good for the Pistons who land best player in the trade and the two most promising prospects while getting Thompson who can do most of what Drummond can do.

I think it would be a solid gamble for the Cavs. I think Suns could do better, Vucevic is good but not worth taking on all that salary and giving up Bender. Pistons 1st wouldn't be that valuable given Pistons return and them being in weak east.


3.) 23 Jul 2017 22:06:47
Give the magic. pick or 2 and i think it makes sense.


4.) 24 Jul 2017 00:00:41
Love it.


 

 

28 May 2017 19:10:03
4 way Trade Proposal GS - Bos - Dal - Min

GS trades Klay Thompson
GS Receives Seth Curry, Dwight Powell, #9 pick from Mavs (draft Lauri Markannen)

Dal trades Seth curry, Dwight Powell, Wes Matthews, and #9 pick
Dal receives klay Thompson and Ricky Rubio

Bos trades 1st pick
Bos receives Dieng and 7th pick (draft PG)

Minnesota trades Rubio, dieng, 7th pick
Minnesota receives Matthews, Zeller (waive), Mickey (waive), 1st pick (draft Fultz)


GSW opens up some cap space. Adds a knockdown shooter in Curry. Adds an athletic, rim-chasing big in Powell. Adds a stretch 5 who would add even more space on offense.

Dal gets the pass first pg they desire and one of the best 3 and d players in the league. They may be getting a little too much in this deal. 2019 first may have to be thrown in.

Bos gets a solid all around big man without letting go of any of its main contributors. In this draft, the 7th pick should still be a good prospect but I don't know if Ainge would see Dieng as valuable enough to bridge the gap between these 6 picks.

Minnesota drafts Fultz. He could be there pg for the next decade +. This move also free cap space allowing them to look for a pf (Millsap?) in free agency

I believe this trade makes all 4 teams better than before. What do you guys think?

1088jonesp

1.) 28 May 2017 19:37:01
Not enough for Klay and Boston could get more out of the 1st pick.


2.) 28 May 2017 19:48:40
Why would the Celtics do this when they could just sign a big in free agency and keep the first pick?


3.) 28 May 2017 19:53:30
Out of all those names, the only one that would get Ainge to return a phone call would be Thompson. Dieng doesn't come close to moving the needle.


4.) 29 May 2017 05:00:57
You guys seem to be very high on Markelle Fultz. In my opinion, Dennis Smith and Gorgui Dieng (as a pair) are more valuable than Fultz. Dieng is a proven, starting caliber big man who can play either C or PF and he is signed for the next 4 years. If the Celtics were to look for a big man in free agency, they'd have to pay him more than Dieng. For the Celtics, this trade nets them a quality big man, a young guard with a lot of potential, and they maintain enough cap space to sign a max player such as Hayward.


 

 

19 May 2017 02:29:31
Simple 3-way Trade between Philly, Orlando, and LAL that benefits everyone

Magic receive D'Angelo Russel, Gerald Henderson, and Tarik Black (cut), 3rd pick (from Philly)

76ers receive Evan Fournier, 6th Pick (from Orlando)

Lakers receive Nikola Vucevic

----- Reasons ------
Magic gets a young combo guard in Russell and move up into the top 3 to grab either Jackson or Tatum. ThIs will give them a young Big 3 (Russell, Jackson/Tatum, and Gordon) to build around.

Philly gets a scoring 2 guard who would be a great complement to PG Simmons. Fournier is young and signed long-term on a pretty reasonable contract. They should also draft Monk who could be an excellent sixth man until he's ready to start.

Lakers add a skilled big man who could help a thin frontcourt. And they get rid of Russell who probably wouldn't be a great fit with Lonzo.

----- Post-trade Depth Charts ------
Magic
Russell, Payton, Augustin, Watson
Ross, Henderson, Meeks
Jackson/Tatum, Hezonja
Gordon, FA
Biyombo, Zimmerman

76ers
Simmons, McConnell, Bayless
Fournier, Monk
Covington, TLC, Anderson
Saric, Holmes
Embiid, Okafor

Lakers
Lonzo, FA, nwaba
Clarkson, young, brewer
Ingram, deng,
Randle, Nance
Vucevic, Zubac, Mozgov


**** Please comment what you think****

1088jonesp

1.) 19 May 2017 04:49:33
I don't like it for Lakers. I love Vuc but he and Randle would be terrible defensively. They can package Russell to a bigger deal.


2.) 19 May 2017 06:40:51
I agree with USA. Vucevic is a solid youngish big on a reasonable contract but isn't a good fit with Lakers roster plus I don't think his value is as high as Russell. I also, don't think Russell would be a bad fit basketball wise with Lonzo. Russell played off-ball to Clarkson for stretches and was successful. Russell is also much more of a natural scorer than Lonzo who is a more natural pg that can impact the game without scoring a bunch of points. Personality wise their could be a clash (more so with Lavarr and Russell) that could create unnecessary drama and distractions (as Russell has already done previously) .

I don't think 76ers would mind trading down and adding a shooter like Fournier although I wouldn't describe his contract as reasonable especially since his numbers are inflated on that Magic team. 76ers would probably need more to be really interested in this since Jackson is a great prospect (although not that great a fit with 76ers) .

I don't think Magic value Vucevic that much and Fournier although youngish doesn't provide much besides scoring. Don't think #6 is a great position for the Magic (Fox is too similar to Payton, Issac probably their best option but he is very hit or miss) so trading up is definitely in the cards. Getting a guy like Russell too who can play pg or sg would be a big win for the Magic who otherwise wouldn't have too much to be excited about.


 

 

04 May 2017 18:29:40
Suns NBA Champs 2019

Suns trade: Bledsoe, Warren, Ulis, Barbosa, Chandler, 2018 1st (via Miami)
Suns Receive: Deandre Jordan and Jimmy Butler

New York Knicks trade: Carmelo Anthony
New York Knicks receive: Bledsoe, Rivers, Brice Johnson

Clippers Trade: Deandre Jordan, Austin Rivers, Brice Johnson, and Wesley Johnson
Clippers Receive: Carmelo, Tyson Chandler, and Barbosa

Bulls trade: Jimmy Butler
Bulls receive: Tyler Ulis, TJ warren, Wesley Johnson, 2018 1st via Miami

Suns get 2 big name players. Draft Lonzo.
Lonzo, Booker, Butler, Bender/Chriss, Jordan is an athletic starting 5 that can push the ball and score points. Jordan and Butler are both outstanding defenders as well. They still have Knight, Dudley, and Chriss/Bender off the bench. And they have $24 million left to fill out the bench.

Clippers switch things up. Get a scoring SF which they've been lacking for years. This trade also reunites Chandler and Paul. Chandler is past his prime but he can still rebound, act as a lob threat for Paul, be a defensive anchor/leader, and most importantly shoots a better FT% than Jordan. Barbosa is a good veteran who fills the hole left by rivers.

Knicks get an established attack-oriented PG with Bledsoe. I think he could carve out a lot of space for Hernangomez and Porzingis. Rivers is a young, energy guy who could be a good bench player for the Knicks.

Bulls might not be happy with this offer, but they get two young players. Ulis, a local Chicagoan, who showed at the end of the season that he could be a starting PG in this league. He is undersized but he is crafty and understands the game very well. Warren is only 23 and he has great scoring instincts. He needs to work on long distance shooting, but he has a knack for getting the ball in the basket, which is a good skill to have for someone his age. A 2018 Miami 1st is probably a lottery pick (maybe not though). If this isn't enough, PHX could always throw in their own 2018 pick to sweeten the deal.

1088jonesp

1.) 04 May 2017 19:13:32
Chicago and the Clippers should be getting more and the Suns need to be the ones giving it.


2.) 04 May 2017 19:14:37
How come the Suns avoid getting Anthony in that deal?


3.) 04 May 2017 19:27:23
Clippers say no.


4.) 04 May 2017 20:14:29
I just think the clippers clearly aren't working together. The talent is there but for some reason it doesn't translate to wins. Their core has never even made a conference finals. Before blowing up their entire roster, maybe they should try something different and switch it up. Carmelo has had his problems but nonetheless he is immensely talented. Paul could keep him in check and bring out the best in him. Paul and Chandler already have great chemistry from their days in New Orleans. I think this trade offers the clippers a third option. The first two being 1. blowing it all up and 2. Holding on to the same underperforming squad.

To please your demands, how about the Knicks send O'Quinn to the clippers, the Suns send Bender to the Bulls, and the clippers send pierce to the Suns (they have the cap space to absorb pierce's contract even though he'a retiring) .


5.) 05 May 2017 01:04:39
I think the suns would need to add their pick this year to get Butler and then something significant to the Clippers. The Clippers wouldn't do Jordan for Melo straight up and the extra players they're giving up in the trade have more value than the extras they're getting back.


6.) 05 May 2017 06:19:32
I'm trying to make something work where the Suns won't have to give up this year's pick. And for the clippers, the two johnsons hardly ever play so the clippers aren't losing much with them. So it becomes a DJ and rivers for Carmelo, Chandler, and Barbosa. I think Chandler still has some left in the tank. He doesn't get much respect around the league anymore because he has been on lottery teams or bad playoff teams for awhile now. But I think people should remember that he was a starting C for an NBA Champion. I think he'd be a solid replacement for DJ. And for Barbosa, he has contributed in the last two NBA finals. He plays a similar role to rivers. Both attack the basket hard and can knock down an occasional three. This trade definitely involves some risk-taking for the clippers but i think it's worth it. Because if it fails, they just rebuild, which they are already considering now.


 

 

 

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28 Jul 2017 06:04:56
Hawks couldn't say yes fast enough.

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28 Jul 2017 06:02:40
That would be an absolute steal for the suns.

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25 Jul 2017 16:17:54
Hamburger, I don't believe Wiggins is a top 25 player in the league so it's a stretch to call him "top flight. " Also, a 30 ppg scorer is valuable no matter how you look at it. The twolves could use the veterans and shooting provided by Thomas and Korver.

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23 Jul 2017 19:51:00
And for the Magic, they add frontcourt shooting and wing defense. Both of which are team needs.

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19 Jul 2017 08:56:15
I love the idea behind the trade. Cavs strengthen their bench with 3pt shooting and hustle defense. Knicks rid themselves of Melo. Houston rounds out their Big 3. However, I think giving up 2 first round picks in addition to Anderson and Ariza is too much for Carmelo.

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