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30 Mar 2017 14:25:42
Haven't been exactly up to date with my NBA this year but thought this might be interesting. But I know how this site goes so tear me apart.

Bucks Get: Lavine

T-Wolves Get: Parker


1.) 30 Mar 2017 15:16:57
I believe Parker's ceiling is higher than Z Lavine. So the Bucks say no. Also Giannis need shooters, who can spread the floor and can play off the ball.

I Like this trade for Minny, Parker could play power Forward next to KAT.

2.) 30 Mar 2017 17:49:06
I wouldn't give up on parker just yet.

3.) 30 Mar 2017 18:16:40
With middleton coming back strong, i think bucks pass on lavine and keep parker.

4.) 30 Mar 2017 19:00:34
Is Lavine that ball dominant of a guard? I've only seen him in a handful of games this year.

Trillhouse, do you guys have room for a depressed bulls fan on the bandwagon for the next 4-7 years?

5.) 30 Mar 2017 19:19:21
I'd take Lavine over Parker. 1 ACL is 100x more valuable than 2. Parker also doesn't fit with the Bucks. I love him, but his style of play hurts the Bucks. Maybe that will change since he will be a different player after he's healthy once again, but who knows. Bucks are just fine without him... best record in the NBA since he's been out.

6.) 30 Mar 2017 20:25:05
I think Bucks should explore trade of Parker, he's a good player but not really a good fit. Also hasn't really developed at all on the defensive side.

7.) 30 Mar 2017 20:41:03
Both players healthy, I like the deal. Like Bucks said above though, 2 ACL's is much harder to swallow than one.

8.) 31 Mar 2017 23:44:48
How about J. Parker, from the Bucks to the Lakers for B. Ingram? Salaries match, and Lakers need A "GO-TO-GUY" which Ingram is not. Plus they could Parkers go to the rim, and explosiveness which Ingram also doesn't have. The Bucks would get a long SF, moving Giannis A. to PF (6'11") and use Ingram at SF, Moving Middleton back to SG Milwaukee would be very long, and Ingram would be of more use with a Giannis, Middleton, Brogdan around him! Just a thought!

9.) 01 Apr 2017 02:43:17
Ingram hasn't shown enough yet to warrant a straight up trade for Parker, and that Bucks interior defense with Giannis playing the four could be ugly. Maybe Ingram and Nance.

10.) 02 Apr 2017 01:59:45
@tombrady, Agreed, Maybe send J. Parker to the Lakers for B. Ingram. Salaries match, and the Lakers need a go-to-guy, which Ingram is not. The Bucks could use a shooter in Ingram. Leave Giannis A. where he is currently playing at PF, Put Ingram in at SF, move Middleton back to SG. Their new lineup would be; Maker (C) , Giannis A.(PF) Ingram, (SF), Middleton,(SG) and Brogdan (PG) The Lakers would start Invac? (C) Randall (PF) J. Parker (SF) Clarke (SG) and Russell (PG)



08 Jan 2017 17:04:19
Bulls/ Celtics:

Celtics Get: Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson

Bulls Get: Jaylen Brown, Terry Rozier, Amir Johnson, J Jerbko,

2017 Brooklyn 1st round, 2018 Brooklyn 1st Round, 2017 2nd round Minnesota


1.) 08 Jan 2017 17:49:39
Celtics are not going to trade both those Brooklyn picks for Butler and Gibson, totally ridiculous. C's could have the #1 pick and that alone is worth waiting for and maybe trade that pick later rather than sooner. They just need a rebounder and an outside shooter, and they can get then at a much lesser price if DA acts smarter rather than dumber. Boston needs to keep their core they have now and just add pieces.



23 Jul 2016 14:28:53
Boston Gets: Jahlil Okafor

*Boston gets their young star and still has a ton of assets

76ers Get: Goran Dragic, RJ Hunter, Boston 2017 1st rd pick, Detroit 2019 second round pick

*Sixers get real guard play (apologies to jared bayless) under control for the next 4 years

Miami: Amir Johnson, Marcus Smart

*Miami gets a closer/ scorer in Marcus Smart, adds some Bosh insurance with Johnson, who is also another one year deal. The type of contract that Riley has been targeting to perhaps make a splash in next years FA class with a core of:
Smart, Johnson, Winslow, Richardson, Whiteside and potentially Chris Bosh.


1.) 23 Jul 2016 15:33:33
Joke right? C's give up Smart, Johnson, Hunter and the 17 Nets Pick ( They have just this Pick, because the Celtics Pick goes to BKN) for Okafor? Danny Ainge can't stop to laugh whenhe reads this.

2.) 23 Jul 2016 15:38:06
How does Philly get all of that for Okafor, and that's far too much for the C's to give up.

3.) 23 Jul 2016 16:22:22
I didn't realize that the pick would be Brooklyn's as well. I will take my ball and go home now.



17 Jul 2016 15:10:11
Rockets/ T-Wolves:

Rockets Get: Rubio

Rubio/ Terry
Harden/ Brewer/ Dekker
Gordon/ Beasley
Anderson/ Montejunis/ smith
Capella/ Nene/ Harrell

This is the definition of a D'Antoni team

Wolves Get: Beverly and Ariza

Dunn/ Beverly/ Jones
Wiggins/ Lavine
Ariza/ Rush/ Muhammed
KAT/ Bejencia/ Garnett
Dieng/ Alrdrich/ Pekovic

Great defensive backcourt, Ariza is a nice 3 and D guy for 7 mil a year and comes off the books in 2 years.


1.) 17 Jul 2016 15:30:24
Bad move for Wolves, trusting a rookie PG makes getting to the playoffs even harder especially when that rookie PG isn't a sure thjng and he hasn't played against NBA players ywt.

2.) 17 Jul 2016 15:45:56
Just start Beverley then. And he can shoot.

3.) 17 Jul 2016 15:55:07
So the Wolves downgrade at point guard then to upgrade at a position they don't need an upgrade at?

Waste of Rubio's value.

4.) 17 Jul 2016 16:46:59
Wolvesfan, I agree with you but realistically after this year you have a 13 million dollar back up PG. My logic is you mine as well get some value back for him now and get a vet PG in beverly who can easily play 25-30 mins a night taking lot of pressure off of Dunn.

Also I must disagree that the SF doesn't need an upgrade. While Ariza isn't a real difference maker, he does stretch the floor and is an upgrade defensively from Rush.

5.) 17 Jul 2016 17:12:34
I this trade, but Houston should also give a protected first round pick.

Rubio isn't an all star but he's a top ten pointguard, his only weaknes is that he isn't the best shooter.

Ariza is a good defender and he can bring leadership, but he's aging, so a protected first round would be fair.

6.) 17 Jul 2016 17:34:53
I could get behind that. Maybe top 14 protected?

I just think there's too big of an excess/ need ratio between these two to not at least have the conversation.

7.) 17 Jul 2016 17:53:39
But Rubio's value won't go down after this year if Dunn outplays him. So why get rid of him now?

And after this year, Ariza will be 32 so that is a poor return for Rubio.

8.) 17 Jul 2016 18:07:28
Valid point, i'm sure the better situation would be to let Dunn develop for a year off the bench.

Ive heard rumblings of Rubio wanting out and that might decrease value (Im reaching here I know), but i'm not sure Rubio is getting you a top 10 pick from anyone for him. Especially with the the over saturation of PG's in the league right now.

But Rubio might be a good fit with D'Antoni who needs one badly.

9.) 17 Jul 2016 21:02:24
Rubio has only said in one interview that he would consider leaving if the Wolves didn't make the playoffs. Not really the definition of wanting out.

10.) 17 Jul 2016 21:57:02
Rubio a top 10 point guard is laughable. Wolves and wolves fans way over value him. Here's a few that are better, Curry, Westbrook, Irving, lillard, Lowry, wall, Conley, CP3, Teague, IT, rondo, Knight, Bledsoe, (I still would rather have Rose), Kemba, Reggie Jackson. Top 20 PG lol

11.) 17 Jul 2016 22:45:03
@ DABULLS. Wiggins is the starter at sf bazz is the backup, realy I don't think ariza is an upgrade over Wiggins so essentially your trading rubio for two backups. Good backups, but rubio can get you a better deal than that.

12.) 18 Jul 2016 00:47:05
Rubio is Top 15 at least, better than Knight, Bledsoe is worse than Rubio about actually staying on the court, arguably better than both Teague and Jackson, and Rondo only gets empty stats.

13.) 18 Jul 2016 06:57:07
Lol you're wrong about all of those. Look at any comparison or list out together. Out of the five I looked at Rubio wasn't listed in the top 10, 15 or 20 even 1 time.

14.) 18 Jul 2016 14:59:31
Really? I prefer to look at stat, don't know what lists you look at, but Rubio is Top 15 in PER among PGs, was second in steals, 5th in assists, 2nd in assist percentage while being 44th in usage rate amobg pointguards, and among the top 10 in rebound rate for PGs. Also received the third most votes for all-defensive team among PGs.

Also 12th in value added and estimated wins added

(All stats courtesy of espn)



18 Jun 2016 15:41:40
Bulls rebuild:

Knicks Get: Rose, #48
Bulls Get: Aaron Affalo, Jerian Grant

Suns Get: Butler, Gibson
Bulls Get: #4, Booker, Warren, Tyson Chandler

#4- Jamal Murray
#14- Bryce Johnson

Murray/ Grant/ Dinwiddle
Booker/ Affalo
Warren/ Dunleyvey/ McDermott
Mirotic/ Portis/ Johnson
Chandler/ Felecio

*A team that wins maybe 30 games and picks up another lottery pick next year.





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27 Apr 2017 04:05:40
Can we talk about D-Wade?

Yes I am a bulls fan and he's been god awful this series and pretty much quit on this team (can you blame him?) so I have a bias. But is he really a first ballot HOF'er?

All 3 of his titles have come with HOF'ers in their prime on his team. Not just any Hall of Famers, but Shaq and LeBron. Arguably 2 top 10 player of all time. LeBron is probably already top 5 if not top 3.

To be clear I think he's had a phenomenal career and probably deserves to be in the HOF. But he's no first ballot IMO.

Do I have a point or am I way off?


1.) 27 Apr 2017 14:07:39
Jordan won his with pippen
James won his Wade and Irving
Kobe won his with Shaq and Gasol

I don't think just because he won rings with shaq and LeBron will not make him a first ballot. I think he's a lock for it.

2.) 27 Apr 2017 18:31:04
Right. And that's true of many superstars however all the guys you named were first options on their championship teams (with maybe an exception to kobe getting his first) .

Not sure wade has ever been the number one option on a championship team (You could maybe argue his first with Shaq, maybe? ) . He hasn't won a playoff series without a hall of fame player on his roster.

3.) 28 Apr 2017 04:44:33
How many sgs do you definitely take over Wade without an argument in history? Jordan for sure, Kobe. Then there are a bunch you could probably argue, but none that are no question better than Wade. I'd say that he's first ballot.

4.) 28 Apr 2017 16:44:26
He did win a playoff series last year with being the first option on a team that didn't have many other options. Whiteside wasn't all that great and played off the bench at times. And Dragic couldn't play well with Wade.

5.) 29 Apr 2017 15:36:07
Wade averaged 27/ 7/ 6 that year. Shaw was 20/ 9. There is no argument to be made. He was the 1st option.

Lebron never won until he got with wade. Ever though lebron had better stats, everyone knows the first option of that team as wade. Lebron was never a prime time player. Always fading away. A long range jump shot instead of a drive when it counted the most.

Yes lebron has gotten a bit better. But when you look at those heat championships, it was because the heat got lebron. It was because lebron got wade.



13 Apr 2017 19:59:09
Celtics Fans,

Assuming you guys end up getting the 1st or 2nd pick, what do you want Danny Ainge to do with it?

Any chance of drafting Lonzo or Fultz and trying to shop IT? Do you trade it for an established vet? Or is Josh Jackson worth a top 2 pick in your opinion?


1.) 13 Apr 2017 23:41:27
What about trading Nets '17 and '18 picks, their '18 pick, Zeller, Yabusele, Rozier, and some other guys plus some more future second rounders for George and Turner?

2.) 14 Apr 2017 00:56:29
Not a Celtics fan or Danny Ainge but if I was I think if Celtics get #1 pick things are pretty clear, draft Fultz and take a swing at Hayward or Griffin if they test FA. I think most teams would select him with #1 pick anyway (he has size to play sg too) so don't think much trade value is lost once he is selected. From there you can see what teams offer for IT and Fultz respectively and if the right offer arises jump on it. I'd let how Fultz looks (and more importantly acts) early on in games, practice, weight room, etc. dictate my direction.

If Celtics get the 2nd pick (21.5% chance) I think they'd have to more seriously consider trading the pick. I think Ball and Jackson will be great pros but I don't think they have the generational upside that Fultz has. It obviously depends on what teams are willing to give up but given the Celtics rich history and that they are already the #1 seed in the east I'd prefer to deal it to get an all-star caliber player who could help them now and make the a contender for the foreseeable future.

3.) 14 Apr 2017 22:41:34
I agree with Jaw, if the pick lands at 2 or 3 then trade it with Bradley and other assets for Jimmy Butler.

4.) 15 Apr 2017 13:42:48
Im trying to think of teams that would match up well for an it trade. T-wolves? Bucks? Lakers?

Would be really interesting.



09 Nov 2016 13:51:50
ESPN's #NBArank is out for 2016:

Who are some players on YOUR team that you feel are over or underrated?

For me:

Overrated: Nikola Mirotic at 95

-"Stretch 4" who can't get grab boards and shoots 35% from down town for his career

-Defense is so lack luster he can't be on the floor more than a 6 min stretch

- Best move is a pump fake, drive and look for a foul

Underrated: Taj Gibson at 96

-Dude has been giving 25-30 quality mins off the bench since 2011

-Can effectively defend the 4 or 5

-He can play with other bigs well without sacrificing spacing or defense because of his ability to switch on guards and hit an outside shot.


1.) 09 Nov 2016 15:34:20
I firmly agree with u.



07 Jul 2016 02:47:49
Okay, I'm sorry guys but here we go again:

Dwayne Wade? Are you kidding me? Dwayne wade is a great player and a future HOF but where was this signing when we had a coach and a roster?

Why remodel the seats on the Titanic?

Total marketing move.

Rondo, Wade and Butler on the floor at the same time? This will be the worst spacing in the league.

Gar/ Pax need to go. Second worst FO to Sac.


1.) 07 Jul 2016 03:52:28
Definitely a marketing move. They get two big names past their prime on short deals. It may elevate them to a playoff team again but doesn't turn them into a contender. Buts that in that awful middle ground of mediocrity. Also wastes two years of Jimmy Butler since these deals won't allow them to put the necessary pieces around him that can help him contend while he is in his prime.

I guess its not terrible since I thought they should trade Butler and hit the reset anyway. Now they'll be able to make money and sell tickets for two years while giving fans some hope and the illusion that they are competitive. After that when Butler will have 1 yr and a player option left (which he'll almost certainly decline) they can try and move him for young pieces.

I can understand why the front office did it since otherwise they were just looking at a rebuild and with the Warriors forming a super team for likely next 4 years it may be better to be mediocre but not terrible for two years and make money then start the inevitable rebuild 2 years from now so by the time the young guys they get start developing the Warriors will be on their way down.

2.) 07 Jul 2016 18:49:23
Not a bad last paragraph there. That's what I've been saying. No one can touch the Warriors, cavs got lucky this year that golden state flopped, got injured or what ever. But golden state is best team in the league and will be for another half decade. In the meantime, bulls might as well rebuild starting with this up and coming draft. They could have easily trade Jimmy for the Nets picks and young assets and sucked them selves to get a good stash of great young talent through the draft.

3.) 07 Jul 2016 23:33:26
The spacing isn't too bad. Wade and Butler aren't the greatest 3 point shooter, but they can hit the 3 if left wide open. Their offense should be pick and roll and back door cuts. I expect a lot of movement without the ball.



04 Jul 2016 16:51:27
Oh. My. God.





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22 Apr 2017 18:55:59
Whether he could or couldn't get Rivers for melo is a trite point (although i stand by the fact that I've heard he couldn't) . The point is that Melo does not get you back a 1st.

Phil has told the world he doesn't want him, his contract is high, and he's on the wrong side of 30. The Knicks have no leverage what so ever to bring back a 1st. Especially from a team like Chicago who needs every pick they can get.




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22 Apr 2017 02:12:24
Wait hold up, you want rondo and a 1st for the worst contract in basketball and a player that your president literally couldn't get austin rivers for at the deadline? No thanks.




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19 Apr 2017 14:22:58
I think thibs wants a vet at guard but not sure they land CP3. What about:

Celtics Get: PG13, Lavine
Pacers Get: Brooklyn 2018, T-wolves 1st, Zeller
T-Wolves Get: IT.




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02 Apr 2017 22:43:41
If Ingram pans out to even 60% of his potential and they sign George. jeez. With Lonzo running point that would be fun to watch.




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30 Mar 2017 19:00:34
Is Lavine that ball dominant of a guard? I've only seen him in a handful of games this year.

Trillhouse, do you guys have room for a depressed bulls fan on the bandwagon for the next 4-7 years?





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